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post #21 of 25
Brilliant post, Daryl, but what are you arguing? That ideas or philosophies which can fail, should fail?

Based on that reasoning, democracy should fail, since there never has been a viable system whereby leaders took direction from the led. Ultimately, all governance to date has been coercive. Violence has been the true test of authority and has never failed to be thus.

Is it to be always thus?

Perhaps, but I think that democracy -- the impulse to be relieved of arbitrary control, and to control oneself within a community -- should continue, regardless, to struggle from its current, imperfect state into something better. Likewise with Christianity or any other religious or moral system. It should be constantly renewing and improving itself, but maintaining the basic idea, which has something to do with faith and mercy.

If you are just pointing out that Christianity has evolved greatly and that its dogmatists are people who do not understand their (or any) history -- of course you're right.
post #22 of 25
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Very saddened by the Christian wars. On this board and out there. Just a comment on how history, dogma and imperfect human nature has shaped a belief.

I edited the OP as I hope by now, those who need to see it, have seen it in its entirety.
post #23 of 25
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Back again to point out, "whither" in my title, means where to. It is not "wither" as in shrivel up.
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post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by canadiyank
Yes, they were religious fanatics - but they were persucuted in England under Eliz I,
Just wanted to clarify that while Eliz I may have persecuted some Catholics she was definately not the ruler who persecuted. Elizabeth was extremely careful, especially early in her reign, to keep fears calm. Her sister, Mary (Bloody Mary) and her father, Henry VIII, were two who come to mind that persecuted.

Any 'persecution' Elizabeth authorized was really to keep her throne. Not to upset the status quo.

(FYI - not trying to make her 'persecution' seem small or insignificant, just wanted to clarify her actions compared to others in history)
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