(Panesbjorne!!!!)Experience With Consuming Bentonite Clay? - Page 3

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by SandyMom

May I ask why??

Thanks again so much for popping in here!
Sandy

Just my guess and PB can confirm or refute but...
Probably bc even WITH proper protocol removals there is a significant mobilization or "dump" of mercury into the system and the alternatives for replacement aren't exactly stellar choices either, needing to be replaced regularly and having their own toxicity issues

[Panserbjorne]

Yup to all of that and then some!

I do use calcium bentonite. The only time I use sodium bentonite is externally and even then only in baths. I don't like to take it internally, though in a pinch it's better than activated charcoal IMO.

I don't think it leaves much behind. I think that there may be *some* positive nutritional benefits, but I'd never recommend it as a supplement. I wouldn't personally worry about it (and don't.) I've never seen evidence (though again, people all over the place talk about the trace minerals) that anything of consequence is left behind.

I am very sensitive and have never felt any mobilization at all. That's total anecdata, but again it's been many years of using this stuff both in a practice as well as personally. I have also taught classes on natural remedies for several years and provide ongoing mentoring to those who have taken the classes. Never have I had any report anything about an increase in detoxification symptoms taking it.

I do think there is some trumped up info out there, but by and large it's wonderful stuff. I use it in a zillion ways in our family and would never be without it.

[SandyMom]

Excellent info - thanks so much!
I am eager to begin now.
Anything else you's care to share regarding what you've found effective at decreasing mercury (with amalgams) would be greatly appreciated by many of us here!
Thanks!

[Panserbjorne]

I tend to do a pretty tailored approach, but I primarily use tissue salts, homeopathy, isopathy, clay, some nutritional supplements and food. I'm largely an energetic gal. Then again, I am so in large part because that is what works for us.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

I tend to do a pretty tailored approach, but I primarily use tissue salts, homeopathy, isopathy, clay, some nutritional supplements and food. I'm largely an energetic gal. Then again, I am so in large part because that is what works for us.

and I have to say there's a lady in the Allergies forum who is mighty grateful for her custom detox FEs blend (in case you haven't seen that post)


eta: the lady not being me (yet) but anyway

[Panserbjorne]

no I haven't! I'll have to try and find it...

[SandyMom]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

and I have to say there's a lady in the Allergies forum who is mighty grateful for her custom detox FEs blend (in case you haven't seen that post)
eta: the lady not being me (yet) but anyway

Do you have a link to that thread? Love to lurk-in

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by SandyMom

Do you have a link to that thread? Love to lurk-in

It's actually just a couple posts on one of the "about me" threads in Allergies.. chlobo's i think... just a sec...

here's the thread

eta: that's another possibility.. to start an "about me" thread

[MyLilPwny]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

Just my guess and PB can confirm or refute but...
Probably bc even WITH proper protocol removals there is a significant mobilization or "dump" of mercury into the system and the alternatives for replacement aren't exactly stellar choices either, needing to be replaced regularly and having their own toxicity issues

Can someone please expand on that? I've never heard of any of that. Like, in Dr. Russell Blaylock's book "Health & Nutrition Secrets" he has a chapter on mercury and talks about all kinds of studies, and he says studies in people having amalgams removed show no rise in blood levels of mercury when proper amalgam removal protocol is in place - page 80-81, and the patients were followed for 60 days to be sure there was no delayed release. And then studies show that when amalgams are removed without proper precautions, there is a 3 to 4 fold elevation of blood mercury that lasts as long as 60 to 90 days.

And then about the alternatives for replacement, I know porcelain has aluminum, so that should be avoided but as far as the composite resins, from my understanding the worst they could have is estrogen mimickers. Am I missing something here or is the idea that the composite resins are just as bad or worse than mercury?

I had all 8 of my amalgams removed by a holistic dentist, trained in Dr. Huggins' amalgam removal protocol in 2004 and had them replaced with composite resins. I have a theory that my scoliosis (I have an "S" curve in my spine) is partially if not solely due to amalgams. My scoliosis has been improving since I got them removed, and in doing my research, I found that has happened with others as well when they got their amalgams removed. Dr. Blaylock in the book I was referring to above also points out several studies that make it seem obvious that amalgams play a significant role in causing neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, ALS, Parkinson's, etc.

[ASusan]

So you know your scoliosis is not congential?

I was just dx with musculature (non-congenital) scoliosis last Monday. I thought it was because of my slipped disc and subsequent surgery and not-so-great recovery. Interesting that amalgams might (also) be involved.

I cringe when I read about amalgam removal. I have had many removed and replaced over the years, none "properly." The most recent was when DS was 5 mos old - 5 of them in one day, no precautions what-so-ever. That was the last time I went to that dentist, even though EVERYone in my community uses either her or her husband. Found a holistic dentist, who is recommending proper removal of several. He recommends porcelain replacements (caps?), but it is SOOOO expensive.

Following this thread with interest. Thank you for the discussion.

[MyLilPwny]

Originally Posted by ASusan

So you know your scoliosis is not congential?

As far as I know its not congenital. No one ever noticed it on me when I was growing up. I didn't get diagnosed with scoliosis until I was 24 when I first started seeing a chiropractor, just for general health. I had amalgams put in as a little kid, and I know I had some amalgams even put on my baby teeth because I remember losing one of my baby teeth that had an amalgam on it and I was glad that I got a "fresh start" with a permanent tooth without a cavity. Anyway, I first started noticing that my stomach was "fatter" on one side than the other in my mid to late teens. Never realized it was my spine causing that. I really thought that I just needed to exercise that side more so I would do stomach crunches on that side.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by ThereseReich

And then about the alternatives for replacement, I know porcelain has aluminum, so that should be avoided but as far as the composite resins, from my understanding the worst they could have is estrogen mimickers. Am I missing something here or is the idea that the composite resins are just as bad or worse than mercury?

composite resins contain BPA, which is a known endocrine disruptor. as someone who already has known endocrine disorder, i'd prefer not to put that in my body. not saying mercury's any better just that it's already there and i'd prefer not to take the risk involved in removal and then replacement with a different health hazardous substance.

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

composite resins contain BPA, which is a known endocrine disruptor. as someone who already has known endocrine disorder, i'd prefer not to put that in my body. not saying mercury's any better just that it's already there and i'd prefer not to take the risk involved in removal and then replacement with a different health hazardous substance.

I never knew the white filing have BPA. If that is the case, I would rather have a metal that is easier to remove. BPA sticks and cannot be easily removed.

I had a dentist that does compatability testing for filings. I guess that is the best option I have now. I have many merc in my teeth that I don't plan on removing any time soon. I remember there was a great thread on not remeoving your old fillings. Perhaps I can find it...

[ASusan]

Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1

I never knew the white filing have BPA. If that is the case, I would rather have a metal that is easier to remove. BPA sticks and cannot be easily removed.
..

Technically, the body is continuously removing mercury, unlike lead, which it sequesters in teeth and bones. However, it seems that a lot of us - and our kiddos - have problems getting the mercury out.

At this point, I assume that I'm constantly taking in BPA, from my composite fillings and from...everywhere else...

BPA in cash register receipts

[SandyMom]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

It's actually just a couple posts on one of the "about me" threads in Allergies.. chlobo's i think... just a sec...

here's the thread

eta: that's another possibility.. to start an "about me" thread

Thanks for assisting my foggy brain!
Saved me hours!

[FrannieP]

Panserbjørne - and others who use calcium bentonite - where do you usually order/buy your clay?
Thanks,
fp

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by FrannieP

Panserbjørne - and others who use calcium bentonite - where do you usually order/buy your clay?
Thanks,
fp

pascalite.com

[MyLilPwny]

I asked my knowledgeable friend to comment on this and he said: "Hard to say which is the lesser of 2 evils. Heavy metals can be cleared from the body through a few pathways. But these xeno-estrogens...we are still learning a lot about exactly how they disrupt the endocrine system.
My guess would be if someone has a healthy endocrine system (lots of cholesterol for hormone precursion), then our body would have all the hormones it needs to do what they need to do. Therefore they would not have room for these misfit estrogens, and they would be cleared. Just a guess though."

I told him that I'll continue eating my loads of eggs and sticks of butter.

Anyway, with me seeing that there are studies that show with proper amalgam removal protocol in place, there is no rise in blood levels of mercury whatsoever, then the process of removing amalgams with that protocol shouldn't be a health hazard concern. Anyone disagree?

Also, is there anything else besides the xenoextrogens (estrogen mimickers) in composite resins, that would persuade someone to keep amalgams?

[Pattyla]

I have an anecdotal disagreement. I had two amalgams replaced when my dd was 6 months old by a dentist following the whole protocol (separate O2 for me etc) He uses bell glass for the fillings I think.

Anyhow my 6 month old had no allergies, was a terrific sleeper and generally an easy baby. WIthin 2 days that was all gone. She now has multiple allergies we are looking at a dx of EE for her. She sleeps terribly and catches every cold that comes down the pike.

The nutritionist we see (WAP leader) recently recommended bentonite for her. I was doing it with her meals but then worried that it would inhibit absorption of her food and supplements. I'm not sure how to give it to her away from meals. I feel like supplements 3x a day with meals is about to break me. Figuring out how to do something outside of meals is overwhelming.

She meets the counting rules for mercury FWIW.

[erin_brycesmom]

Like some others, I am taking calcium bentonite clay from Living Clay Co - www.livingclayco.com/ . I am nursing an infant.