Heb B Vaccination Question

[VolDad]

I have a question and haven't really been able to find any information on the internet.

We have our 2 month today and I'm assuming we're going to get pressured to start the CDC recommend schedule, after doing some research, the most I can agree to right now is a delayed schedule (which will give me some time to do additional research).

Anyway, we got pressured into the Hep B shot in the hospital (before I even knew there might be issues with vaccines, just accepted the Dr's advice)... now that I've done more research, I don't want to continue.

Question, will this cause any issues with Hep B? If we decided before he goes to school to get his Hep B, I'm assuming he has to restart?

[swissmom]

Delaying until you have done more research and feel comfortable TO or NOT to vax is certainly a good decision. Stand your grounds today at your ped and be prepared to be pressured or even kicked out of the practice.
Delaying Hep B will not harm your child in any way (I assume he/she is not in the risk group?). You can always stop a series.
You also know that your child can attend school without being vaccinated? There are exemptions in every state.
All I remember is that every vaccine counts - which means you won't have to restart Hep B. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Good luck today!

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by VolDad

Question, will this cause any issues with Hep B? If we decided before he goes to school to get his Hep B, I'm assuming he has to restart?

You can stop vaccinating any time and you can restart any time. None have to be "started over". It's all based on guessing anyway. When they see that a vaccine does not prevent the infection in the majority of people/kids, they just give more of the same vaccine (a second or third booster).

Don't ever think that it is his Hep B or any other vaccine. Those drugs belong to a pharmaceutical company who is in the business of preventing death and health. Everything in between is fine since then they stand to make money.

What belongs to your child is his healthy body that no one should mess with.

[Ldavis24]

I don't know about restarting the Heb B. If you want him vaxed when he is older. I do know that in middle school I had the heb B vaccination AGAIN! (my mom had me get all vaxes as a baby) so I would just keep it in your LO's health records that 1 hep b was given and ask at the appropriate time...

Good luck with your Ped. It is really really hard to stay strong when you are being pressured by someone with a degree like that. My own ped convinced to start vaxing when I knew in my heart it wasn't what I wanted for DD. Today is her 4 mo visit and I am putting my foot down and not letting another vax into her body. Like the other PP has said just be prepared for hostility and the possibility of getting kicked out of the practice!

[Gitti]

I noticed you just started posting in our forum and want to send you a



And here is a new article from Inside Vaccines, which shows how they mess/guess with vaccine dose.

[PlayaMama]

as per this catch up schedule

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/sch...chedule_pr.pdf

a vaccine series does not need to be restarted, regardless of the time between shots.

i used this schedule to work out my own schedule with only the vaxes i wanted to do. so, i made sure that my ds had at least the required interval between doses and i never vaxed him with more than one at a time.

this was before a lot of the combo vaxes so i'm looking into those now for my dd as in some cases it lowers the amounts of preservatives and can increase immunity, i think, i don't have the sources for that but if you search in the selective/delayed forum there was a convincing thread on it a bit ago.

[VolDad]

Gitti,

Thanks for the welcome.

Well, just got back from the Pedi... basically, they told us if we don't follow the CDC recommended schedule, then we're fired, have to find a new Pedi.

I delayed the decision by saying that I'll come in for a consult with the Doctor, she then handed me a bunch of pro-vax literature, specifically an article by Dr. Offit... please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he the Dr. that was on the board the recommend the rotavirus vaccine that killed some kids? Wasn't it later discovered that he held the patent to the rotavirus vaccine?

My wife and I are now at odds, I had her convinced to follow Dr. Caves modified schedule and she has now been scared enough by our Pedi that she wants to follow the CDC recommended schedule, what a way to celebrate our anniversary .

[swissmom]

First of all: don't panic! Convince your wife that your baby will be fine with no vaccines for at least the next 2 weeks. And during these 2 weeks, you will read, read, read. DON'T vaccinate ever out of fear. I am sure your wife is a reasonable person and does want to vaccinate (or not) because she is convinced of it, not pressured into it. Most families on this forum whose kids are not or selectively vaccinated will tell you that our kids are the healthiest we know.

Second: don't panic (did I mention that before?)! Most of us have been there - having had our doubts, having experienced nothing but scare tactics from our peds, having even been pressured into a few vaxes and felt horrible afterwards, and, of course, having been kicked out of a practice. You will find a lot of information on this forum and you will find a new ped if you stick with your decision.

Start reading the documents I posted in your other thread. And look at this website. It is run by doctors, which might have some consolation for your wife. There are a lot of free webinars (one is tonight) and very interesting videos.

Yes, it's the same Dr. Offit.

Just remember: it is okay to postpone vaccines. You can always vaccinate later. You are not alone. Educate yourself.

And oh - it is absolutely normal that one partner has a different stance on this. Just do the reading together and discuss.

[VolDad]

Thanks for the Medical Voices link, I'll be reading that soon.

We're suppose to go to Disney in a couple of weeks with some friends, so she is freaking out that he'll catch something while we're there.

I think I've found an alternative Dr. in my area, just called them and they support a delayed schedule, going to talk to my wife when she gets home.

I keep saying, once we vax, we can't unvax, just going to keep repeating that mantra.

I'm not anti-vax, as I've just started doing research about 4 days ago (we adopted, and this happened basically overnight, so I didn't have 9 months to do all my research), but the stuff I've read is having me lean in that direction.

[Deborah]

If you are going out in public with a small baby, carrying the child in a sling, close to your body, can reduce exposure. It definitely cuts down on people touching the baby and breathing on the baby.

You should also avoid overstimulation and overtiring small ones--stress reduces immune response. The problem isn't always the germs, it is the ability to respond appropriately to the germs.

Good luck figuring it all out.

[newmum35]

Breastfeeding — the main source of active and passive immunity in the vulnerable early months and years of life — is considered to be the most effective preventive means of reducing the death rate of children under five.

http://www.nature.com/nri/journal/v4...s/nri1393.html

[VolDad]

Originally Posted by newmum35

http://www.nature.com/nri/journal/v4...s/nri1393.html

Agreed, wish we could do it, however, circumstances beyond our control did not allow us to.

[BeckyBird]

Hi VolDad! Good job, questioning the vaccines. You really need to research more about the dangers of them--there IS another side to the story. Call local chiropractors, and ask them if they know a pediatrician who will let you delay vaccines.

Please watch this video. It will open your eyes! I always tell people--if you spend an hour researching the best car seat, then you owe it to your child to research what goes into his/her body! These vaccines are NOT 100% safe, Fact. At the very least, please delay the vaccine schedule until you have read all the material that is against vaccines. There are many doctors out there who have spoken against vaccines, but you will not hear them unless you know where to look.

Video:http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/update.htm#video Click on the video with the man wearing glasses. So many people are not aware of the harm a vaccine can do.

Here is a great doctor, Sherri Tenpenny. One of her polio speeches on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD-IuczagIQ part 1

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8s5aVxf3U&NR=1 (there are 4 parts in all. You can find the rest on youtube)

There are SO many controversies about vaccines and the organizations that promote them. It will make your head spin!

[Jeniebelle]

find a new Dr.!! I searched and searched for a pediatrician who would work with me on vaccines and finally found one! I can give all some or no vaccines..... What state do you live in?

Jen

[swissmom]

Originally Posted by VolDad

Live in GA, I've spent most of the day searching today and have found 5 practices that will work with me.

I could have posted these practices earlier, sorry. But good work

[Deborah]

Originally Posted by VolDad

Agreed, wish we could do it, however, circumstances beyond our control did not allow us to.

I can give you the hopeful news that my mother successfully raised 5 children without vaxing any of them. The first two were not breastfed more than a few times (she tried and failed, due to medical interference), she managed to nurse me for three months, got up to 11 months with my little sister and 7 months with my little brother.

We are all still alive and range in age from mid-sixties down to low fifties. This was back in the days when the "vaccine preventable diseases" all ran rampant as vaccines weren't available for measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, etc., etc.

So it is possible to keep formula fed babies reasonably healthy without vaccines.

[mamakah]

Originally Posted by VolDad

Thanks for the Medical Voices link, I'll be reading that soon.

We're suppose to go to Disney in a couple of weeks with some friends, so she is freaking out that he'll catch something while we're there.

I think I've found an alternative Dr. in my area, just called them and they support a delayed schedule, going to talk to my wife when she gets home.

I keep saying, once we vax, we can't unvax, just going to keep repeating that mantra.

I'm not anti-vax, as I've just started doing research about 4 days ago (we adopted, and this happened basically overnight, so I didn't have 9 months to do all my research), but the stuff I've read is having me lean in that direction.

At two months old, your little one would only be *beginning* the series of vaccination that is supposed to create immunity. I really don't think that vaccinating her before disney land would protect her from anything. I believe the CDC says that the DTaP needs all 3 doses before the child is "immune". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[amnesiac]

Please keep in mind the following regarding healthcare providers:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...48&postcount=1

[JBaxter]

Originally Posted by mamakah

At two months old, your little one would only be *beginning* the series of vaccination that is supposed to create immunity. I really don't think that vaccinating her before disney land would protect her from anything. I believe the CDC says that the DTaP needs all 3 doses before the child is "immune". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Same with the rotovirus vaccine, HiB & Prevnar