Vaccines on the cover of Wired

[bbrandonsmom]

I saw in the store that the newest issue of Wired has a baby on it and these words
FEAR "Vaccine Dont Cause Autism, But Some Panicked Parents are Skipping Their Baby's Shots"

Didn't read the article. I found one link so far connected to the mag where every comment but 1 was pro-vax. I didn't know the mag was pro vax until today. Apparently the article has the 5 most common "excuses" of why parents don't vax and they tell you how to refute them. I should have bought it-grr.

[lovingmommyhood]

Ugh.

[Drummer's Wife]

I just got the newest Wired but haven't taken it out of the plastic yet (or my car for that matter) but now I will have to check it out sooner than later. thanks!

[Luv2Bake]

As much as I think people are starting to come around re: vaxes, lately I've been feeling like everyone is pro-vax without any thought to the consequences. And while I love having a message board like this, the truth is we're probably the only people we know who have abandoned vaxing. It's frustrating, b/c it's only going to get worse as more and more vaxes become standard for children.

So while I am not too familiar with Wired, I am not surprised.

[listipton]

Here is the link, I think.
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience

[SuburbanHippie]

Well, if Paul Offit said it, it must be true. That basically sums up the entire article in one sentence.

[ZoeyZoo]

Originally Posted by Luv2Bake

As much as I think people are starting to come around re: vaxes, lately I've been feeling like everyone is pro-vax without any thought to the consequences.

I know how you feel. I was watching Real Time and Bill Mahr was commenting that there needs to be a debate and that the safety is questionable. He was jumped upon by his panel who were pretty intelligent people.

[newmum35]

Originally Posted by bbrandonsmom

I saw in the store that the newest issue of Wired has a baby on it and these words
FEAR "Vaccine Dont Cause Autism, But Some Panicked Parents are Skipping Their Baby's Shots"

Didn't read the article. I found one link so far connected to the mag where every comment but 1 was pro-vax. I didn't know the mag was pro vax until today. Apparently the article has the 5 most common "excuses" of why parents don't vax and they tell you how to refute them. I should have bought it-grr.

I disagree. You did right in not buying or supporting the magazine.

I once received a baby related magazine in the mail. Until they published a vaccine related article that was incredibly pro-vax it made me really angry. I immediately canceled my subscription and let them know why. maybe next time they'll think to have a more balanced viewpoint. I felt I couldn't trust the accuracy of their articles anymore and I wondered what else they'd be publishing in the future that might also be biased. I just didn't care to support this magazine any more after that article came out. Hit them where it hurts and maybe they'll stop publishing such biased pieces.

[newmum35]

Originally Posted by listipton

Here is the link, I think.
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience

Lengthy but interesting. Anyone else a little disturbed by the contradiction on page 5 of the article?

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/1...aronscience/5/

"Similarly, the suggestion that pharmaceutical companies make vaccines hoping to pocket huge profits is ludicrous to Offit."

..

"That’s not to say vaccines aren’t profitable: RotaTeq costs a little under $4 a dose to make, according to Offit. Merck has sold a total of more than 24 million doses in the US, most for $69.59 a pop — a 17-fold markup."

That is an alarming mark-up, I'd say.

[ShadowMoon]

I know how you feel. I was watching Real Time and Bill Mahr was commenting that there needs to be a debate and that the safety is questionable. He was jumped upon by his panel who were pretty intelligent people.

I just watched this and felt so uncomfortable during the whole clip I wish he had been a bit more prepared for the backlash but oh well. At least he's saying something, despite the awful criticism he's received for it. (He can come off as a bit too defensive and childish for people to take him seriously). Regardless, I hope he continues this during the next season.

[New_Natural_Mom]

You don't need to buy it - you can read the articles online for free. Can someone tell me who paid Wired to run an ENTIRE ISSUE of pro-vax info? I couldn't bring myself to buy it. I left the store feeling so discouraged.

My family tries so hard to respectfully educate people about the dangers of vaccines. We don't shove our opinions down people's throats, but we do try to offer information and real, scientific links to more data. This just completely sets us back.

This, on top of finding out practically everyone in DH's family got the flu shot and we were around them this weekend. Hopefully they got the shot and not the mist. Just waiting until the calls start coming in about people happy they got the swine flu vax.

I swear they call just to irritate me.

This whole magazine is one big VAX YOUR KIDS mandate. I think the author just went to the CDC website and found old pro-vax articles and appropriated them for her own use. The intro paragraphs to her story sound eerily similar to other pro-vax articles I have read.

[SunshineJ]

Now, I've been out of the magazine loop for a while but isn't Wired supposed to be a technology magazine? Y'know, with reviews on new laptops, leading edge articles on the latest innovations, etc? If so, wth is a vaccination article even doing in there?

[nicolebeth]

Originally Posted by SunshineJ

Now, I've been out of the magazine loop for a while but isn't Wired supposed to be a technology magazine? Y'know, with reviews on new laptops, leading edge articles on the latest innovations, etc? If so, wth is a vaccination article even doing in there?

I don't read Wired, but in glancing at the article, I think they're going with the "vaccines are technological advancements" and people who don't vaccinate are hopelessly in the dark ages. (This was akin to Ms. Magazine making Gardasil a feminist issue.) I know people IRL who are very open-minded (on every other issue) and very highly-educated who are VERY pro-vaccine. To them, the people who are against "don't get" the science. In fact, I just saw that someone posted to FB how excited he was to see the Wired article, because this just countered everything the nay-sayers have been saying.

[chaoticzenmom]

Originally Posted by Luv2Bake

As much as I think people are starting to come around re: vaxes, lately I've been feeling like everyone is pro-vax without any thought to the consequences. And while I love having a message board like this, the truth is we're probably the only people we know who have abandoned vaxing. It's frustrating, b/c it's only going to get worse as more and more vaxes become standard for children.

So while I am not too familiar with Wired, I am not surprised.

This is not true in my life. I keep meeting people who don't vaccinate...everywhere. I was talking to a nurse a few days ago and found out that she doesn't vaccinate. My children's naturapath doesn't vaccinate. I guess I'm lucky not to have to feel like I'm all alone in my decisions. Or maybe I just run in an odd circle.

[kell]

My boyfriend gets it and told me I'd "love" this issue. My favorite part was when it said "higher rates of non-vaccination correspond with higher levels of education and wealth." Lol.

[Luv2Bake]

Originally Posted by chaoticzenmom

This is not true in my life. I keep meeting people who don't vaccinate...everywhere. I was talking to a nurse a few days ago and found out that she doesn't vaccinate. My children's naturapath doesn't vaccinate. I guess I'm lucky not to have to feel like I'm all alone in my decisions. Or maybe I just run in an odd circle.

If by chance you live in N.C. tell me where you hang out!

[emma1325]

Originally Posted by kell

My boyfriend gets it and told me I'd "love" this issue. My favorite part was when it said "higher rates of non-vaccination correspond with higher levels of education and wealth." Lol.

heehee. My mom got offended when I mentioned this fact once, since she vaccinated me as a child. I had to clarify to her that "no...it's not that most well educated people don't vaccinate, it's that most people who don't vaccinate are well educated." There's a huge difference and I still don't think she got it.

[popbaby]

Ugh...my partner gets it and I just saw it on the dining room table... he's reading it now... we have a completely unvaxed family, and he is on board...but he loves this magazine...I am pissed it's even in the house.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by bbrandonsmom

I should have bought it-grr.

No you shouldn't have. I cancel any magazine when they bring out misinformation or turn out to be a mouth piece for big pharma. And I let them know why. That is the only way we can make a difference, don't go along with it.

[Sileree]

Wow. There was so much false information in that article it's almost amusing.

Almost.