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Such beautiful decks! I can't wait to get mine.
post #82 of 165
I must say how I am really loving this thread

I am going to be out of town until after the weekend so I will catch up on all those great deck links and on your blog, cachet, when I get back. I am taking my Treasuring Mapping/New Year Questionnaire with me in the hopes that I can finish it up before Sunday. I won't have computer access where I'm going - this is probably a good thing for me.

Thanks for the hug Maggie - it's been a big process for me.

I'm gonna say this, and I want all to know that it's not my intention to offend - the only thing I know about Mormonism has to do with all the polygamy and bad press in the news
I would love to hear more about LDS.

Ok, Happy New Year to all!
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I'm gonna say this, and I want all to know that it's not my intention to offend - the only thing I know about Mormonism has to do with all the polygamy and bad press in the news
I would love to hear more about LDS.
The Articles of Faith is a great place to start. It is a VERY basic list of some of our most important beliefs. If you really want to go more in-depth, this is a pretty good page for starters.

The Pagan parallels were really what got me to investigate the church in the first place. The acknowledgment of our Heavenly Mother was a HUGE one. The Goddess has always been present in my life and despite my belief in Christ, I could not belong to a Christian church because I thought they all denied Her existence. We also believe in universal salvation. Without the back story, basically if you're on this earth, you've already made decisions that assure that you will go to Heaven. That was another issue for me in Christianity - I could not accept that people who may have never even heard of Jesus would be sent to Hell by a loving Father. The fact that every worthy adult male is a member of the priesthood is also similar to Paganism in that every male can take the position of priest (of course, that depends on your specific branch of Paganism, but it's true for the most part).

I could go on and on. My pagan husband has very little problem going to church with me, even though he isn't exactly on the conversion list.
post #84 of 165
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How is 2010 for everyone so far?
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Our little boy got a strong lesson in the changing of the seasons tonight when we explained to him that the Christmas tree was going to be taken out of the house. He's started asking Why? to everything so we got into how nothing stays the same on earth, that everything is changing, that seasons are passing, the death and birth cycle, etc. He was really sad about it; sad that death and aging is inevitable. Who knew that would happen over a Christmas tree?

Something that stemmed from that though: I have a mini tree (artificial) that I kept in my room at Christmastime when I was a kid. We didn't put it out this year but Chunka discovered it when we were putting ornaments away and I told him that we could keep the little tree out and use it as our changing seasons tree. (We had explained about evergreens and how it stays green even during the winter so we used the reverse logic that it would stay green throughout the rest of the year too). The plan is that we will find things that capture the essence of the season to place on the tree. For January, I'm thinking of an icicle and a photo of Chunka when he was born since his birthday is in January. Other things we'll just come up with. Perhaps, photos of seasonal produce. I'm not sure, but it can be a discovery process where we add and find throughout the years.

Wouldn't it be nice if it became a tradition that we could tie into the cycles of nature? Any ideas, suggestions for items to add for this season or books, resources to look for inspiration?

Other than that, I think I'm setting myself up for burnout so far this year. I feel energized to get into new projects. My husband came to the realization that I need a little more "me" time for social/intellectual/personal pursuits so I'm thinking of adding into that time a birth advocacy/support group (in my community) and a green living group (with my church) that I would be co-organizer of both. I'm trying to figure out what my saturation point is with projects, caring for /teaching children and balancing housework with my husband's schedule. We'll see what comes out of it...
post #86 of 165
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Jenne- I immediately started thinking of all the flowers you could put on it for spring and the eggs for Ostara and Easter. Can you tell I am already longing for springtime?

I'm really into color association so I'd go with white, silver, and blues for right now. Other than that I am no help.

As for resources- have you looked into the Waldorf nature table/altar thing? Obviously I know nothing about it but it looks interesting. You could ask the homeschool mamas. I know their are lots of Waldorf websites out there.
post #87 of 165
jenneology - what an awesome idea! Not only are you teaching about life and death, you are also including rebirth in there with the rebirth of the Christmas into a seasonal tree. I have a friend who has a tree in her home all year long and they decorate it with the seasons. I think you could just do whatever comes to you as far as decorations are concerned. I like the icicles and silver, white and blue idea. You could also do some sort of decorations for Martin Luther King, Jr. Day - maybe some kinds of symbols of peace and equality.

My 2010 is very releasing and cleansing so far. Releasing a lot from the heart Chakra while focusing on the Root. I am really looking forward to what comes out of this new year.

On a different note - someone talk to me about spells and such... I scored at Half Priced books the other day. I picked up a copy of The Holy Book of Women's Mysteries by Z. Budapest and I have been reading it and finding myself really working through some ideas surrounding spell work. Mostly struggling with deconstructing acquired beliefs regarding witchcraft...
post #88 of 165
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I talked to Z. Budapest on the phone once It was really nothing but I was so excited at the time.

To me (and opinions are going to vary) spells are like prayers in action. Say you are praying for patience (no I am not speaking from personal experience here at all...)- with prayer you bow your head and/or drop to your knees and talk to God (whomever) asking for guidance and help and all that. With spellwork you do the same except you are also making symbolic gestures and using herbs, colors, elements associated with what it is you are asking for help in. So I would be verbally praying "Dear Lord, please help me to find patience" and within spellwork I would be adding the burning of a certain incense, maybe an affirmation/chant, meditation/visualization, invoking the approriate deity for help, etc etc. You don't have to do all of that, of course. Hopefully I am making sense. To some I know spellwork is about the power that comes from you but to me it is less about the power to make things manifest on our own and more about the power we have to ask for help in making things manifest. Like I said different people are going to have different views on how this works and why. I take a more.. I don't even know what you'd call it really. Basically i believe spells and prayers work because they make us more mindful. I do believe in miracles and blessings from God/Mother/The Universe/etc but I also believe in the power of one's mind and one's actions. IMO, though, in order to have this work we have to show restraint, discipline, and humility.

And as always pray hard that you won't crash the ship but also steer clear of the rocks.

I am just blah blah blahing now and I am not too sure if I am even making sense!
post #89 of 165
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I think this may have already been posted but just in case here it is again.
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Oh my gosh! That's the whole book??? Cool...
post #91 of 165
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Oh my gosh! That's the whole book??? Cool...
No I think it's only bits of it but it gives enough to see if it's worth buying, IMO.

Sorry.
post #92 of 165
Oh that's ok. Just now I skimmed through it and it was 246 pages so I assumed it was the whole thing. No sorries needed
post #93 of 165
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I have my hands full so this is going to be short and sweet.

I just watched this video and I feel impressed to begin doing daily offerings that are threefold- to God (Goddess, the Universe, etc), to my fellow man, and to Mama Earth.

More thoughts on this later...
post #94 of 165
Cool video. Her vlog makes me miss my house in the country. Definitely interested in hearing your further thoughts.
post #95 of 165
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Ok back!

My thoughts were that each day i should be giving a little to God, humanity, and the Earth. I was thinking this could take the form of personal sacrifice to be closer to God (ie: taking the time to pray, read sacred texts, etc etc), give some sort of service to my fellow man (more often than not this will probably be doing my best at being a mother that day as I don't get out much), and helping out Mama Earth in some way (gardening, feeding the animals in my neighborhood, etc etc). Just little things that are DOABLE for a busy SAHM of 5 little ladies 6 and under.

Speaking of my children- I am feeling so blessed to have 5 daughters right now. Wow! 5 daughters- 5 women. 5 birth givers. 5 sisters. (I have in the past had great issues with never having a son so this feels very good!)
post #96 of 165
Awww yay for embracing your girls! I hope I can come to the same peace if I never manage to have a girl...right now it doesn't seem possible.

Somebody wanna help me come up with a calendar? I need to plan the year. Pagan holidays, Christian holidays (including maybe some of the less-mainstream more Jewish or Catholic type holidays?) ect. I feel like this is really my year to celebrate and give thanks all year long.
post #97 of 165
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Awww yay for embracing your girls! I hope I can come to the same peace if I never manage to have a girl...right now it doesn't seem possible.

Somebody wanna help me come up with a calendar? I need to plan the year. Pagan holidays, Christian holidays (including maybe some of the less-mainstream more Jewish or Catholic type holidays?) ect. I feel like this is really my year to celebrate and give thanks all year long.
I have my year planned out in Google Calendar. Maybe I could email it to you? Do I have the correct email address for you (the one I emailed the nLDS stuff to?)
post #98 of 165
Oooh yes, please!
post #99 of 165
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Ok I added you. I may be adding some things and what not.
I also have a moon one I will add to it but it's just naming the full and new moons...
post #100 of 165
I found this recently and it:
http://www.earthcyclecalendars.com/

I appears you can make notes of additional holidays you would like to celebrate around the outer rim.

I really like the look of this one too, but that's because I love trees:
http://www.ncrlc.com/1directory4_img...r_imgs/win.gif
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