autumnal pagan camp: tapping - Page 2

[saphire]

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

So when you have a list of related issues, do you do a separate tapping routine for each one, or do you list the issues with each point you tap?

Oops, time's up, more later....

Separate- I'll usually pick one issue to tap on, then move on to an affirmation or two. Most of the time one round is enough, since it's covered by 8+ points. My sequence is mainly: complete setup statement on my karate chop point, then I break it up as I tap on my face and body. I'll also adjust what spots on my body I tap, intuitively by what feels right to me. However the key is to FEEL the emotion you are tapping on.

[aweynsayl]

ahh, interesting point about feeling what you're tapping on. i think that probably differs per person. i've found that sometimes i have better success if i'm not really feeling the emotion too intensely... i think maybe i find true root causes or other... influences... better when i'm sort of hazy as opposed to really strongly tuned into the emotion... if that makes sense? works all ways, i suppose-- and of course, the key is to find what resonates best with you.

[Aubergine68]

Back now! Wanted to share my most interesting tapping story,

My main interest to this point has been in using tapping for physical issues, and I definitely had enough results with that to keep exploring it. I've also been interested in developing more of a spiritual practice through meditation.

I was aware of the chakra tapping exercises that you recommended aweyn, but hadn't tried them.

I had been reading some paganish books, including Ellen Dugan's Natural Witchery, which includes some visualization exercises, including one on "lighting up your chakras." I ran through this as an exercise in my mind before falling asleep one night, just because I've been vague on where the chakras even are and I was trying to "learn" them. I am not a great visualizer, don't actually "see" what I am trying to imagine when I do visualizations.

After that, I decided to tap rather experimentally on something that was more emotional/divinatory than my usual concerns. Long story short, had been asked to help teach a class to cover for a friend, which was a bit of a stretch for me, though I thought it would probably go ok. So I tapped on "even though I am nervous about this class tomorrow". Was going ok, was feeling the energy that tapping evokes, which I think I'll think of as "chi".

Then I got to the point of closing my eyes, and there was a woman standing in front of me. She was a very specific person, but not someone I recognized, if that makes sense -- she was old but strong and wiry, wrinkled skin that made me think she was at least 80ish, and obviously capable and sharp, maybe a retired teacher or nurse, wearing a practical modern parka like you'd get at MEC, short hair, glasses, sorta like the generation of women who are friends with my mil irl, (who I deeply love and respect) ....I had all these impressions. She said very clearly "Don't worry, you've got it all together!" I opened my eyes -- totally startled -- then closed them again and she was still there, smiling at me! Well, her face was a *little* different, blurred, but all the attributes were there....

I'm not going to speculate here on what it meant to have such a vivid image of this woman out of nowhere, but it will always be remembered as a powerful spiritual experience for me. It is hard to explain how powerful just having that persistent image felt! I felt a lot of comfort in her words and finished the tapping, and yeah, the next day proved that I did, in fact, have it all together in that particular situation

I think even the desultory and not very successful-feeling chakra visualization is what made the tapping experience after it more successful and effective and startling....I am going to make a point of doing the chakra tapping before prayer as well as before tapping regular issues and fully expect to have some amazing results with it. And, on the strength of that, I'm also going to try the advanced chakra tapping program you recommend, aweyn.

Has anyone here read some of the books that are out now on handling physical issues with emotional release? I've read You Can Heal Your Life and The Journey over the past few months and feel the paradigms they offer fit very well into the idea and practice of tapping....

[Aubergine68]

Originally Posted by aweynsayl

ahh, interesting point about feeling what you're tapping on. i think that probably differs per person. i've found that sometimes i have better success if i'm not really feeling the emotion too intensely... i think maybe i find true root causes or other... influences... better when i'm sort of hazy as opposed to really strongly tuned into the emotion... if that makes sense? works all ways, i suppose-- and of course, the key is to find what resonates best with you.

I don't think I'm so good at feeling what I'm tapping, though I'm going to experiment with it. I'm not such an emotional person, honestly... I think strong emotions often just go right into bodily issues. If I were better at being aware of what I'm feeling, I'd be a healthier person and not needing to tap healing issues, I think?

[Aubergine68]

Just wanted to add that there are some groups on Facebook. You can find the most active by searching Emotional Freedom Technique -- it has 3000 plus members.

Are there any online forums that anyone would recommend particularly on this subject?

[aweynsayl]

that's a wild experience! i agree, chakra tapping before tapping, meditation, cards, etc. helps a lot.

saphire and i used to talk about doing chakra camp... this fall, actually! at this point, i cant imagine what else i'd have to say about it other than to suggest that advanced chakra tapping. i dont know if you had quite the experience with it that i did, though, saphire? we never really had a real conversation about it, did we...... we could add a sub-section on chakras, as long as we're "here" so to speak.....??

i never quite got into YCHYL, but i do think tapping fits. isnt she in the tapping movie? i havent seen it... but i feel like there's a connection... the basic concept with all those books/movies/techniques is similar. it's like the re-wiring your brain bits from "what the bleep"... that was the one thing that "got" to me more than anything. i need more coffee if i want to be more coherent, but for me, it's been so powerful... i mean, there's a reason i'm ALWAYS talking about it, right?

as for online forums... tdc has one, i think... i've not tried any of them, though.

[saphire]

You know, one of the fun things about tapping, I think, is how well one can personalize it. And how many ways there is to use it, how it complements other therapies.

Looking back over my notes from last summer's tapping summit, I'll throw in some points that I don't think have been mentioned here yet:
Target emotion can shift location in body, needing to be followed to be cleared.
Target can have multiple aspects that can all be tapped on.
Shifting from negative to positive in statement. " Even though I'm always late...." ( tap, then change to something like) " I choose to be on time and have enough time for my needs..." or combine it into one statement "Even though I'm always late, I choose to be on time and have enough time for my needs."
Tap on resistance blocks- like if you feel that something is too big to attain, or you can't figure out how you'll do it.

HTH a bit.

Aweyn, could you describe a little bit your chakra tapping experiences? I ended up not using his text too much, because it didn't seem like such a good fit for me. Instead I chose to use visualizations of my chakras being clear, bright and energetic while tapping.
Also, I'm interested in a description of how you use tapping for dream interpretation.
And lastly, I still want to do a chakra camp. It'd be fun! Let's stage it like the workshops this summer. I'll pm ya

[Aubergine68]

Thanks so much for this information, saphire!

I have just a couple of points to report.

Tried tapping from the root to the crown chakra, the reverse of the order that the tdc guy recommends, and also from the crown to the root. The crown to the root felt MUCH more powerful.

I think I'm going to try tapping only on positive affirmations for myself for a day or so and see how it goes.

Ordered the advanced package, but haven't been able to access it yet, so haven't tried that.

Have been tapping with my ds1, age 5, on restlessness before bed and with my dd12 on her cold/flu symptoms. They are obliging sorts so I'm teaching them how to do the routine on themselves by doing it with them. Some effectiveness.

My ds is EXTREMELY physical/active, very intense beyond the usual way of little boys.

I am hoping that tapping will help his body and mind to achieve better focus. Hmmmn. Maybe the balancing cortices tap would help.

[aweynsayl]

A~ i am finding it entertaining that you and i seem to end up in thread/conversations with us and one other person..... what does that even say? dare i think about it? lol!


ok, trying to post a bit more about the adv ch. tap... i dont even know how to explain it. yeah, some of his text didnt resonate, and that tended to be in areas i knew i was ok... but there were places where it hit so hard home, i'd dissolve into a puddle on the floor... and there were two key places where i had that reaction, and i was SHOCKED. "really? i have an issue with that? i had literally no idea." but then after, it was AMAZING, and some other "issue" i thought i had, and had not been able to "deal" with (ie tap away), was suddenly just GONE. does that even begin to make sense?

the other thing i found was that some of his patterns (ex: tap EB/UA/BN/CB, etc...) were so so so powerful for me... there are three combos i still use, quite often (though i no longer say the words... i use them on my own... which actually brings me to answering about dream interp, and also, btw, divination.... what i do is use those three tapping patterns (hint: they're from his sections on being in flow, being connected, and the one about circuits... i could go back and see which ones more specifically, if you're interested).... i start out with a chakra clearing or general tapping, then tap those patterns til i feel "clicked" into my... what, higher meditative/me/flow/etc state? then i can tap (whatever points i feel drawn to, usually by that point) and start talking to myself about the dream (or whatever).... insights just start coming, then i tap on those, more come, and so on.... make sense?

aubergine-- i absolutely agree on crown to root being MUCH more powerful, it's one of the major reasons i love his approach to chakras as opposed to the traditional methods (you'll hear my others in chakra camp, lol!)

good luck on the kiddos and affirms, keep me posted!!!

[singin_angel]

I haven't used tapping a whole lot but picked it up from reading all your lovely posts.

The first weekend I was away on course, I had extreme anxiety because I showed up and they said I wasn't on the course (I was but there was a clerical error). I felt so displaced. Friday night was rough and Saturday I was still worried. Come Saturday night, I took a shower after getting out of my combats and while I was there, I decided tapping would help. I almost instantly felt better. I could go on and enjoy the rest of my evening and have a good night sleep.

Thank you for posting this! I have some more links to check out

[Aubergine68]

Originally Posted by aweynsayl

A~ i am finding it entertaining that you and i seem to end up in thread/conversations with us and one other person..... what does that even say? dare i think about it? lol!

I dunno. Too sleepy to think hard. We are complementary kinds of geek? Matched in loquaciousness? Surely we should tap on it.

Originally Posted by singin_angel

The first weekend I was away on course, I had extreme anxiety because I showed up and they said I wasn't on the course (I was but there was a clerical error). I felt so displaced. Friday night was rough and Saturday I was still worried. Come Saturday night, I took a shower after getting out of my combats and while I was there, I decided tapping would help. I almost instantly felt better. I could go on and enjoy the rest of my evening and have a good night sleep.

I'm glad that it worked for you. I can think of a few times in my life when I could have used tapping for anxiety. Glad to have it part of my tool kit now.
Cheaper than Rescue Remedy, too.

Tapping is working really well with my older son. Not so well with my dd's illness, but then, I don't know whether she would be worse without it, either....haven't had much time to do it for myself but I did tap away some frustration with my non-sleeping youngest last night.

[aweynsayl]

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

... We are complementary kinds of geek? ...Surely we should tap on it.

[ananas]

Originally Posted by aweynsayl

i remember early on when i was learning tapping, reading or hearing some where that tapping was most effective when done in the nude. i'm sure i laughed, but i think it's true. i'd add that it's most effective done in the shower (or, who can guess? in an epsom salt bath!). maybe that's just me, but with water running over me, i tend to get loads better results. of course, this isnt always practical, not to mention eco-friendly if you're in there a while. if you're not getting great results with your clothes on, though, it's something to think about.

Definitely! Clothes can hold energy, so if you're having trouble "dropping" something, just being nude, especially in the shower, can help.

[ihugtrees]

I can't wait until I have some time to watch that video. Living in a one bedroom apartment with my DH (who is off of work for a week) and my DD, I haven't gotten a chance yet.

[Autumn Breeze]

(sorry just subbing to lurk )

[Aubergine68]

bumping this thread because I think it goes with the chakra thread.

[entiti]

bumping for updates or more info??