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DH works overnights, kids act like banshees all morning--HELP

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
That pretty much sums up my problem--and I'm really at a loss as to what to do about this. DH recently started working overnights, and he *really* needs good sleep--he has health issues that could worsen at any time, and working overnights is hard on even the healthiest person.

Our kids are 10, 7, and 2, and we homeschool. We live in a small apartment, where even a slightly elevated voice carries back to the bedroom clearly. DH gets home around 6am and hearing his key in the lock is what seems to awaken N. He's the oldest, but he's not content to go back to bed or read quietly in the mornings (even tho that's part of what he knows he has to do during the day--read from his chapter books)--so he wakes up his sisters. He's sneaky about it too, like, closing the bathroom door with a click or sighing loudly while walking by their room! Then the girls are often cranky from being woken up, and so the fighting ensues. Then, because the older two are quite a bit older that the 2yo, they often try to boss her around, and of course a 2yo can't keep her voice down even when she's happy, let alone when she's frustrated with her older siblings!

Regardless, this cacophony starts at about 6-7am, and DH needs to sleep at least until 2pm.

I have tried printing out some schoolwork beforehand, but they fight--L is a singer and a chatterer, while N needs quiet to concentrate.

I've told them to read certain books and to be prepared to tell me about them when they're done, but they either "forget" or do them in 10 minutes, then go back to having light sabre battles in the hallway or playing catch with C's stuffed animals amidst shrieks of laughter. Even if they're doing something constructive like Mad Libs or reading out loud to each other, it's punctuated with maniacal laughter and giggle fits!

As I type i'm having to remind them to be quiet about 8 times. Apparently they are playing "campout" in L's closet, but they are tickling the 2yo, bumping loudly into the walls, shrieking and laughing and singing a made-up song. When I say "hey guys", all noise and movement cease instantly--they KNOW they're doing wrong!

I've tried bribes, chore lists on the wipey board, threats, reasoning, but it really seems like either they don't care a lick, or they are just physically incapable of acting mellow in the mornings. I can't send them outside unless I go with them, as it's an apartment. I try to run errands or take them places while DH is sleeping, but that's not always feasible or affordable. We don't have cable, but they have access to the Wii, probably 100 DVDs, the XBOX, playstation--these things do not seem to keep them quiet AT ALL. In the evening, they can all veg out on the couch and watch nature documentaries, no problem--but in the mornings when DH needs to sleep, it's pandemonium.

I am 9 months pregnant right now and exhausted myself. I cannot keep getting up to run interference, and really I'm angry because it doesn't seem to be a developmental thing--they are perfectly capable of being quiet at other times... It's almost like they are doing it on purpose--getting something out of it, yk? They probably are psychologically/emotionally, but I can't for the life of me think what.

if you've read this far, thanks very much! Any practical suggestions or logic as to why they are determined to make us crazy are welcomed
post #2 of 10
Can you invest in good ear plugs for your DH? Or a white noise machine - either for your DH to listen to to mask the kids, or for the kids' room, to mask the sound of your DH opening the door. Or maybe both! My DH found one at a yard sale last year for a dollar. New I think they cost $25 or so.
post #3 of 10
Two things....could your dh adjust his sleeping hours just a bit so that he's sleeping from say 7:30 to 3? That way, when he gets home, the kids could see him, jump around with him (even if he lays on the floor in the middle of them), and meanwhile, you could be getting everyone dressed.

At 7:30, Daddy goes to sleep, and it's time to shut it off for a while. Either, they do quieter stuff, or you become the weird family that goes to the park at 7:30 am. ??

And, secondly, I used to work nights. I swore by a white noise machine, black-out shades, and a cool room (a fan works great). It worked really well for me, and I was always able to sleep during the day.
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by BetsyS View Post
Two things....could your dh adjust his sleeping hours just a bit so that he's sleeping from say 7:30 to 3? That way, when he gets home, the kids could see him, jump around with him (even if he lays on the floor in the middle of them), and meanwhile, you could be getting everyone dressed.
Building on this - could you then get out of the house for an hour or 2 while DH gets to sleep? Then it might be easier for him to stay asleep and everyone might be calmer if they were out for a bit and then came back in?
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by BetsyS View Post
Two things....could your dh adjust his sleeping hours just a bit so that he's sleeping from say 7:30 to 3? That way, when he gets home, the kids could see him, jump around with him (even if he lays on the floor in the middle of them), and meanwhile, you could be getting everyone dressed.

At 7:30, Daddy goes to sleep, and it's time to shut it off for a while. Either, they do quieter stuff, or you become the weird family that goes to the park at 7:30 am. ??

And, secondly, I used to work nights. I swore by a white noise machine, black-out shades, and a cool room (a fan works great). It worked really well for me, and I was always able to sleep during the day.
Those. My dh used a fan for a white noise machine. But I hear ya, my kids would be so loud when dh was trying to sleep. Once he was up, they were quiet and calm.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
thanks for the responses

yeah, i've thought about a white noise machine--that might be a good idea. DH can't wear earplugs as he is insanely prone to ear infections and it seems that anything will aggravate his ears. i've got a tapestry that will soon go over the window in the bedroom, as it works quite nicely as a blackout shade

as for the getting them outta the house for a few hours...well I have been doing that here and there (when i have the energy and gas money!), but really, i think this is part of the problem--i think i've been "rewarding" their bad behavior by getting upset with them, then taking them out. My kids are all about outings, they don't even much care if we get out of the car, they just wanna go go go.

It's not practical for us to go out every day...especially not once the new baby's born. Hmmm. Perhaps I can take them for a walk in the mornings, so they can "get out", get sunshine and burn off energy.
post #7 of 10
I feel your pain but I have to tell you honestly.....I am in awe of you managing this in an apartment!!!! My DH sleeps on another floor and they still sometimes wake him up

I would see about another form of ear plugs.....DH has to wear them while working as a requirement so his company hands out bags of them, all different kinds. Some really go in the ears but others are formed differently so maybe another type would work or at least dull the noise a little?

Blacking out the windows does help a huge amount, I think the body sleeps in the dark differently than in light (my totally non-pro opinion). Plus white noise can really make a difference.

What about having them take the walk or go out after a morning of being quiet? Like "if everyone respects Daddy sleeping we will go out for a nice walk at 2:30 and get home just as he is waking up"? Not sure if the reward is too far off for them? Or even...."if you are quiet until noon we will take a walk then.

Good luck!!!

Sara
post #8 of 10
Lots of good suggestions here. A couple of other ideas:
--adjust his sleep hours back so he's up for a several hours when he gets home, then sleeps for 7 or 8 hours, gets up, and goes to work; just like people who work 8am-5pm don't come home and go straight to bed; this worked for me when I did the overnight shift
--do you have any friends who are gone from their houses during the day? could he sleep on their couch a few days a week? or as crazy as it sounds, could he get comfy in your car with an air mattress and blanket?
post #9 of 10
I'm an RN and I work overnight (11p-7a) and I also homeschool my kids so they are home all day as well. I have done this both in an apartment and in our small house now.

I really think it would be good to invest in a good white noise machine for your DH. A fan isn't the same thing, those machines really do help us day sleepers.

My kids are 7 and 11. I usually get home around 0730 and stay up about an hour with them before going to bed, this really helps I think. IMO your 7 and 10 year old should know better (2 yr old obviously different). My kids KNOW the do NOT scream and run through the house acting like that (they do it sometimes and I will come out of that room screaming....lol. I dont expect perfection, but I do expect them to not be screaming and banging around). Your oldest is getting something he likes from waking the other kids up, he wouldn't be doing it if he wasn't.

I think the hour I spend with them in the morning helps, I make them breakfast, etc. I lay out the plan for the day so they know what I expect by the time I wake up (I write it all down). I also let them know what our plans are when I wake up (I usually get up around 2pm and take a nap before work) like the library, park, ice cream, shopping, errands, whatever and if they are loud and wake me up then those plans are canceled.

Good luck!
post #10 of 10
First off, about the title of this thread. I, too, have a 7 yo and a 2 yo (and baby) acting like banshees while my DH, who does a few overnights/week, tries to sleep in an apartment on the few mornings that he can (he was working two jobs... granted this will end in a week since he was laid off, but that is neither here or there - point is, I get the situation).

ITA about the white noise machine.

Also, I would get into a habit of getting out of the house for a couple of hours every morning. I know, I know, expense, etc. But it would probably really help things. Heck, even doing your errands early in the morning would probably satisfy the urge to do something for the kids. Run to the grocery store, Target, pharmacy, post office, library, whatever, stop at a playground before you go home, and voila! Burned off energy and restlessness. If it is a routine, then you aren't rewarding them and reinforcing bad behavior.
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