If you are anti-vaccinations... - Page 3

[Deborah]

for Momofmusa,

I'm almost 60 years old and received just one vaccine in my life. No serious health problems at the moment and not a lot in the past. Because of my age I had all of the normal childhood illnesses: measles, mumps, chickenpox, rubella and so on with no particular difficulty. I'm one of a family of 5 children whose parents were anti-vax. We are all still alive and reasonably healthy.

So it is possible to survive...

I did give my daughter some vaccines when she was 7 or 8 years old. I think it undermined her health, frankly.

My two grandchildren (currently 10 and 6) have had a couple of vaccines, much later than the usual schedule. They are pretty healthy.

Our family uses whatever works when it comes to medicine. I've used mainstream and alternative as needed. I mostly avoid drug treatments because they don't seem to work and I usually get side-effects. But I have had surgery a couple of times (fairly minor) and when I go to the dentist I don't object to novocaine so I'm certainly not a fanatic.

[EarthMommy80]

I am anti-vax for my family, and pro western medicine in an emergency. From the point at which I had my first child seven years ago untill now, my beliefs in SO many ways have changed.

DD1 is fully vaxed, DD2 is partially vaxed, and DS is not vaxed at all. I don't do well baby check ups, or any regular physicals on the older kids. DS has not seen a dr. since he got rid of the jaundice at 2 weeks old. He is healthy and happy, no need to go and be checked out, when I am capable of keeping track of his health my self.

I like what Cindy said, this is how I feel also....

Originally Posted by WaitingForKiddos

I also use a midwife, think that prayer works to cure and heal, and use hand sanitizer.

[MittensKittens]

We don't vax. Like many, I am pro-whatever works, which has not included western medicine in my family for many years. But in the first place I am pro- civil liberties and personal choice to decide what is in the best interest of you and your family. I am all about doing research and not blindly following "facts" that are presented to us. I respect other peoples' choices and expect the same from them in relation to my choices. Sadly, that's often nowhere to be seen when it comes to the choice to remain vaccine free.

[ann_of_loxley]

I have never really met anyone who was 100% anti-vax for anyone. I wouldn't say we are anti-vax. We just don't vax. This is right for our family.

I am pro a lot of things though! hehe Pro bach flower remedies, homeopathic remedies, acupuncture, reflexology, osteopathy, reiki, crystal healing.... lol

I think all of those things are far too un-known and mocked. They really shouldn't be. They work! They are SO safe and non-invasive and fabulous for whoever you are! hehe

[emma1325]

I am against vaccines for my family, and am also against casual pharmaceutical use. When someone in my family is ill (rare) the first thing we do is nothing. lol Well, bed rest and increased fluids is the extent of this "nothing." We don't do over-the-counter meds or prescriptions.

We evolved into this practice, when we begin noticing a trend that went something like this...use meds, stay sick much longer and perhaps get sicker or develop new symptoms; continue the cycle of sickness and meds. Don't use meds...sickness goes away fairly quickly and painlessly, and stays away for a long time.

We believe the body has a wonderful ability to heal itself in most cases. That's not to say that in some rare cases, medical treatment is not warranted. We simply believe that western medicine is far overused to the detriment of our society's overall health.

[claddaghmom]

I've traveled along a spectrum. In the beginning, I was against vaccination because the risks outweighed the benefits.

I have moved to a place where I view vaccination as an affront to my child's bodily integrity...so it has moved above simply "prove the science" to a religious/philosophical issue of human rights for me.

As for what do I do in place of vaccinations...well when you remove an additive, there isn't a hole.

I hear people ask the same question about circumcision. "If we don't circumcise, what do we have to do?" Nothing. He's normal now.

"I'd rather treat a sick child than injure a healthy one."

JMO not debating, not judging, etc etc.

[an_domhan]

Originally Posted by beansmama

For those of you who are anti-vaccinations - what are you "pro"?
...
ayurvedic remedies, homeopathy, acupuncture, eastern medicine, psychic healing, etc works?

I don't vaccinate anymore and haven't received a vaccine myself since 1972. My shot record looks a helluva lot different than my teenager's, sadly.

I think the majority of people do not refuse emergency care (western) when the situation calls for it. I think that some people have probably used homeopathy, or other modalities that are routinely ostracized from the "evidence-based" camp and probably report that it worked well. Whether it's placebo or not, really doesn't matter to me... whatever works, works.

I think chiropracters are generally very knowledgable people as it relates to the nervous system. I think it's very agreeable that proper care to the nervous system will aid the body in responding to numerous chemical and mechanical stressors. Mainstream's blatant attempts to demonize them have actually had an opposing effect on me (as does much that they rake over the coals out of sheer spite).

I'm becoming more and more irritated in the vaccination discussion and the shoddy science that supports vaccine policy. Or maybe I'm just more irritated at skeptical talking heads regurgitating that same, horrific, science ad nauseum to make their fear mongering points... I think the vaccination status of strangers has become a paranoid and hateful topic. I think people are INSANE to place the health of their child (especially those compromised, or otherwise) into the hands of complete strangers ("please vaccinate yourself to protect my child"). Really? Where does it stop? And lastly, I think it's INSANE that we universally vaccinate to protect the weak (in the US). Somehow acknowledging that my vaccination status, or that of my either fully, partially, or non-vaccinated kid, is not evidence that we can also resist disease and protect these members of society is blasphemy and we have no concept of the destruction these diseases have done [insert scary music here].

Treat everyone as if they aren't vaccinated, or the vaccine didn't work. Treat the child, not the disease. Reality (not false security) seems to be the best preventative measure in my house.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by an_domhan

I don't vaccinate anymore and haven't received a vaccine myself since 1972. My shot record looks a helluva lot different than my teenager's, sadly.

I think the majority of people do not refuse emergency care (western) when the situation calls for it. I think that some people have probably used homeopathy, or other modalities that are routinely ostracized from the "evidence-based" camp and probably report that it worked well. Whether it's placebo or not, really doesn't matter to me... whatever works, works.

I think chiropracters are generally very knowledgable people as it relates to the nervous system. I think it's very agreeable that proper care to the nervous system will aid the body in responding to numerous chemical and mechanical stressors. Mainstream's blatant attempts to demonize them have actually had an opposing effect on me (as does much that they rake over the coals out of sheer spite).

I'm becoming more and more irritated in the vaccination discussion and the shoddy science that supports vaccine policy. Or maybe I'm just more irritated at skeptical talking heads regurgitating that same, horrific, science ad nauseum to make their fear mongering points... I think the vaccination status of strangers has become a paranoid and hateful topic. I think people are INSANE to place the health of their child (especially those compromised, or otherwise) into the hands of complete strangers ("please vaccinate yourself to protect my child"). Really? Where does it stop? And lastly, I think it's INSANE that we universally vaccinate to protect the weak (in the US). Somehow acknowledging that my vaccination status, or that of my either fully, partially, or non-vaccinated kid, is not evidence that we can also resist disease and protect these members of society is blasphemy and we have no concept of the destruction these diseases have done [insert scary music here].

Treat everyone as if they aren't vaccinated, or the vaccine didn't work. Treat the child, not the disease. Reality (not false security) seems to be the best preventative measure in my house.

are you in my head?? I really could not have said it better myself

[thefragile7393]

We're non-vaxers (I guess anti-vax technically but people have the right to do as they choose, regardless) and I will do anything and everything natural or non-Western first before opting for Western (unless it's an emergency). I'm not anti-Western, but I'm very much against it's overuse and the arrogance within the medical community that Western is the bee's knees and it's the only type of medicine that works.

[fawnanddoe]

I am anti-vax for my family, and mostly skeptical of western medicine except when needed. For example, I was diagnosed with cancer while I was pregnant. I still managed to have my natural, non-medical birth, but when it came to cancer I turned to western medicine.

I am very much so into homeopathy, acupuncture, and keeping a healthy, chemical free diet and lifestyle as preventative care.

[whiddle]

I selectively vax and use western medicine as needed.

We do have yearly exams (Pap, bloodwork) just to make sure everything is a-okay. Other than that, we don't really require medical care other than an ER visit for an injury. Most illnesses we treat at home (if ever). We take very little OTC meds and no RX meds. In the last 5 years, I've had one RX for amoxicillian for strep throat that wouldn't go away.

[Kailey's mom]

Anti vax but we do use western medicine.

[mountainsun]

What a question!

Let's see - we are thankful for western medicine in that we know if we have major trauma/ need surgery/ it will be there for us.

That being said, I do believe that going to an allopathic physician will many times (not all the time) leave you "sicker" then before you went in.

We try to eat healthy. Exercise, be outside. Stay positive. Work on our stress levels. We use chiropractic as needed. Use herbs, homeopathy, acupuncture when we fall ill.

I do not believe that you need to see a doctor to be well I think it is all a business and designed to make drs money. I have watched my father being helped by medicine (cancer) and my grandfather being slowly killed by medicine (Grandfather, RIP). A docotor nearly caused my Mom MAJOR issues by prescribing 2 contraindicated medicines. Again, she ended up in MUCH worse shape then when she went in for a nasty cough of all things).

Vaccines have gotten out of hand, imo. Can they be helpful? Probably in some instances. The vaccine schedule out there now? INSANE.

I think people need to take responsibility for their health, and not leave the decisions uo to the doctors (or any other hcp). I just do not think that many docotrs are trained in wellness, ony to look for sickness.

[3boys3girls]

One way of putting our view on vaccines, which I read elsewhere, is "I'm not ANTI VACCINES, I'M PRO-vaccine safety. Vaccines have not been proven to be safe." but then again, what is safe 100% of the time? FWIW, we are not vaccinated.

[writteninkursive]

Originally Posted by sg784

Im anti vax. Im pro any "medicine/health regimine you researched and informed yourself about. and decided you were comfortable doing for you and yours. "

[mayasmum]

I am now 99% anti vaxing after doing some research. I questioned why my preemie should be vaxed on the same schedule as a full term (ie. he was 7 weeks early, so his adjusted age at 2 months would be 1 week!!) and that opened a great big ole can of worms for me.
I try not to use medicine (western) wherever possible. I believe in meditation/yoga and the chiro did a very good job of helping my headaches..
So I would say I prefer to use more of a natural approach (food is an excellent way of helping your body out) than conventional western medicine.
I think I am a hippy at heart

[JAZE MOMMIE]

What a good question!~!!

I have 4 lids and 2 are vaccinated (born 1988 and 1991 so not as many vaxes as now )
1 has had some vaccines her first year--the last child has had none.
Our views have evolved as to what we have learned regarding herbal meds and health /foods in general.
In 2000 -I would say anti vax and pro health !

I have read many books on differring ideas and health and healing -spiritual and physical-
Rudolph Steiner and Edgar cayce have views /ideas that resonated well with me and herbal remedies is something I enjoy making and using in our home .
Our chiropractor has been helpful for many years in keeping us healthier also.
It is nice to put it into words-helps clarify what you are thinking.

PS homeopathics were very effective for my 3 year olds diarrhea last week--(I was impressed -1/2 bottle and it was gone after 5 days of it )and I would use them,along with herbals , in my plan for pertusis if we would have to deal with that illness .

[Ceinwen]

My two kids (ages 7 & 2) are selectively/delayed vaxed.

I'm a trauma/emerg RN, so I have a healthy respect for western medicine.

We also see a naturopath and spend lots of $$$ at the LHFS.

I absolutely do not use homeopathics, or anything of that genre, but we do use (with good success) herbs, nutrition, whole foods, etc. for health and healing.