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post #61 of 93

i've been following

i have been following/watching your thread.. i have a dd who's now 8 weeks old and we had been going through exactly the same thing. her skin was wretched.. i cut out dairy then eggs then nuts, the whole gamut.
it didn't get better and i found the dr. sears bit about eating nothing but turkey, potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, and pears for two weeks and adding stuff back in.
after 3 days of this, her skin is almost all the way healed.
it's not fun, i am starving, and my heart is almost broken b/c i think the culprit was wheat. i usually survive on pasta. so... you might want to give that a try if nothing's worked so far. if it gets better, you'll at least KNOW it's a food allergy.
post #62 of 93
Thread Starter 
I think before I try any diet alterations, I'll keep a food log of what I eat. Because if it was something I was eating or not eating early last week that made him clear up (instead of the lotion), I can't remember what I did or didn't have. I still continued dairy during that time, and wheat as well (a bowl of frosted wheat cereal w/ milk is my breakfast every day).
post #63 of 93
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Originally Posted by Harmony96 View Post
I think before I try any diet alterations, I'll keep a food log of what I eat. Because if it was something I was eating or not eating early last week that made him clear up (instead of the lotion), I can't remember what I did or didn't have. I still continued dairy during that time, and wheat as well (a bowl of frosted wheat cereal w/ milk is my breakfast every day).

A food log is absolutely a great idea! Just keep in mind that proteins can stay in your milk for quite a long time. Some quotes from kellymom's site


"reactions may occur within minutes, but symptoms in breastfed babies more commonly show up 4-24 hours after exposure. If baby has an acute reaction to a new food, or to a food that mom ate a large amount of, then he will probably be back to normal within a couple of hours. If baby is sensitive to a food that mom eats frequently, symptoms may be ongoing"

"If you think that your baby may be sensitive to dairy products in your diet, remember that it can take 10 days to 3 weeks to eliminate cow's milk protein from your system—allow a full 2-3 weeks of dairy elimination before evaluating the results."
post #64 of 93
Thread Starter 
New pics and update in #1
post #65 of 93
Have you tried changing detergents or double-rinsing his clothes? I only ask because it looks like that is only where his cheek is rubbing against his clothes/blankets. I haven't read your whole thread so you've probably already tried that but I know my kids have all had super-sensitive skin and detergent would set off rashes like crazy. I wash the baby's clothes with the dye-free perfume-free detergent and then do another wash with just water. I hate to use so much water but it works.
post #66 of 93
In his newest pic it looks like my DS's sebborrehic dermatitis. I used hydrocortisone on his face for a couple days and it was gone. It flares up again once in awhile I put it on again and it disappears almost instantly. He also had cradle cap for a little while. My ped told me if all else failed to try the hydrocortisone, so I did after trying other things.
post #67 of 93
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New pics and update in #1
what a sweet sleeping baby picture
post #68 of 93
hugs andrea! it does look better, though!!!
post #69 of 93
Thread Starter 
Added new pic from this morning. I think it's the worst it's ever been.
post #70 of 93
It looks very similar to my DD's rash. I stopped dairy and it was gone. If I eat stuff like ice cream, butter, milk or cheese it comes back. So it's not too bad because dairy in other foods is fine, it's just straight dairy that causes it.
Breastmilk didn't work on her skin either.
Hope it clears up soon, I got a lot of comments too until it went away.

Deb
post #71 of 93
It doesn't look like normal acne. I think I would go with the diet mentioned above but MAN, that seems way easier said than done!! Or maybe something environmental? Not much help...It almost looks a bit infected in the new pic
post #72 of 93
My daughter had the same thing and it was due to dairy. Good luck!
post #73 of 93
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In his newest pic it looks like my DS's sebborrehic dermatitis. I used hydrocortisone on his face for a couple days and it was gone. It flares up again once in awhile I put it on again and it disappears almost instantly. He also had cradle cap for a little while. My ped told me if all else failed to try the hydrocortisone, so I did after trying other things.
My 5 week old ds's skin looks a lot like the OP's dc's latest picture, and at his well baby check last week, our pedi said it's sebborrehic dermatitis as well. Dr said to just keep it clean and moisturized as the topical meds for it are not recommended for newborns.

We have lots of experience with eczema, but this is a new one for us. That said, the Dr. recommended the same moisturizers for this as our allergist recommends for my older dc's eczema. Eucerin cream (not the lotion), Aquaphor or Cerave. Lotions will just dry out the skin more.
post #74 of 93
My DS (16 months) has eczema, and his skin often looks like that.

What has worked for us is a CeraVe/steroid cream compound, which medicates and moisturizes. We use that for 2 weeks then go a week with using pure CeraVe for moisture and Protopic ointment (non-steroidal) as a medication, alternating every few weeks. He still breaks out on occasion, but it is most important to bathe him regularly and apply his lotions twice a day. It is a chore, but it saves him a lot of pain. Sometimes his skin is so bad it cracks and bleeds and just looks like scales, which started getting at it's worse around age 4 months. He is in the middle of a breakout right now, but I am picking up some of his meds tomorrow and will make sure to give him a good bath. I hope you find this info useful with your DS!
post #75 of 93
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My DS (16 months) has eczema, and his skin often looks like that.

What has worked for us is a CeraVe/steroid cream compound, which medicates and moisturizes. We use that for 2 weeks then go a week with using pure CeraVe for moisture and Protopic ointment (non-steroidal) as a medication, alternating every few weeks. He still breaks out on occasion, but it is most important to bathe him regularly and apply his lotions twice a day. It is a chore, but it saves him a lot of pain. Sometimes his skin is so bad it cracks and bleeds and just looks like scales, which started getting at it's worse around age 4 months. He is in the middle of a breakout right now, but I am picking up some of his meds tomorrow and will make sure to give him a good bath. I hope you find this info useful with your DS!
Just a public service announcement regarding Protopic... a 2 part one.

1) Protopic does have a black box warning... that said, the allergist we work with, who has been involved with clinical trials for this drug, said that the risk is very, very, very slim. In Europe, they consider the risk so slim that they don't warn about it at all.

2) Use of Protopic on children under the age of 2 is an "off label" use. The drug maker does not recommend the use of this product on children under 2... no studies have been done on that segment of the population.

I absolutely trust this drug, my oldest ds was even involved in a clinical trial for a cream version of it, and he's not had any problems. Protopic ointment was the one thing that made his awful eczema clear up.
post #76 of 93
I agree with those that say that it looks like eczema. DD gets a rash just like that, hers is from dairy and from some detergents.

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Originally Posted by Norasmomma View Post
In his newest pic it looks like my DS's sebborrehic dermatitis. I used hydrocortisone on his face for a couple days and it was gone. It flares up again once in awhile I put it on again and it disappears almost instantly. He also had cradle cap for a little while. My ped told me if all else failed to try the hydrocortisone, so I did after trying other things.
Just wanted to mention that because hydrocortisone is a steroid that your son's system can become dependant on it and if you use it regularily he may have an outbreak when you stop using it just because you are not using it. I'm sure that you're doc made you aware of this though

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It looks very similar to my DD's rash. I stopped dairy and it was gone. If I eat stuff like ice cream, butter, milk or cheese it comes back. So it's not too bad because dairy in other foods is fine, it's just straight dairy that causes it.
Breastmilk didn't work on her skin either.
Hope it clears up soon, I got a lot of comments too until it went away.

Deb
Same for us that it was MILK that was the problem, not dairy. DD can eat cheese, yogurt, etc. but can't drink milk. (and she is not as sensitive now either, at 2.5)

Also, doesn't it make sense that rubbing BM on thier faces wouldn't help? BM contains the allergen that is causing the problem in the first place! Unless it is an environmental cause, BM won't help, I wouldn't think!
post #77 of 93
Harmony, I think at this point I really would do the Dr. Sears complete elimination diet to just put to rest the food issue once and for all. My daughter's skin was horrible with acne and sebborrhic dermatitis at 5-9 weeks but it's been ok for a while now. Even her cradle cap went from a raging case to extremely mild. Now she just gets a tiny zit here and there that is gone within the day.

I just think at this point it should really be getting better and while it could definitely be environmental, I think following the strict elimination diet would at least put your mind at rest that it isn't a food. It'll be a few weeks of a PITA diet, but I think it would be worth it.
post #78 of 93
Just thought I'd throw this out there- my dd had a stubborn rash and my mw said it looked like yeast. Very surprising to me since she didn't have diaper rash or thrush like my boys did. Anyway I wiped her face/head/neck (where the rash was) with water that had a little vinegar in it for a couple days and presto the rash cleared right up. The dilute vinegar didn't bother her so it might be worth a try, can't hurt!
post #79 of 93
I have been following this saga since the beginning (I'm the pp with the photos of my daughter's skin), and just wanted to pop in to offer a big hug. I hope that his skin improves soon!
post #80 of 93
Hey there,
My DS had a very similar appearing skin condition starting at around 3 weeks. His ped said it was "benign candidal folliculitis". We had no other symptoms of yeast problems but his responded beautifully when I started taking Florastor (a good competitive yeast, cheapest at drugstore.com) twice daily per the pediatrician. Then I stopped the florastor and the acne came back worse.
He's now 3 months old and we have occasional bouts of acne but only when I skip our probiotics, esp his (Klaire Labs infant formula, 1/8tsp daily).
I have minimized, but not eliminated, wheat and sugar (even in fruit) as these are things the yeast thrives on. I no longer take Florastor but use other probiotics (again, Klaire labs but Jarrow products have worked as well, and then there's ThreeLac, love it).
I really would try to approach it as a yeast problem. It is very under diagnosed as Candida lives naturally in the body and many think that if you aren't seeing thrush and diaper rash and sore nips that it couldn't be yeast, but it really can manifest in so many forms.
Good luck!
And about trying to explain his skin to people, just forget it, you see the zits so clearly, most people just see an adorable little guy smiling back at them.
xoxo
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