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post #41 of 63
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Originally Posted by lifeguard View Post
I've been using ds' development as my lead. As soon as he was mobile we put covers on the electrical outlets & moved things out of his reach. When he showed interest in going into the kitchen all. the. time. to play with the dog's water we put a gate on the kitchen. Now that he will NOT leave the stairs alone (wants to go up all day long) we put a gate at the bottom of the stairs.

Some babies do need more childproofing then others, whether because of their personalities or the level of supervision available. I don't know anyone who needed to use toilet locks or fridge locks or secured their furniture to walls, etc. But I'm sure there are some people who have needed to, even if it is just for their own ease of mind.
Oh that's me for sure too, with a twist. As soon as DD was mobile, we put covers on the electrical outlets...Which thus made them interesting, and she promptly removed all of them. Never tried to stick her fingers or toys into them, but was forever removing the outlet covers. So we quit.

We have a baby gate on the stairs, mostly to corralle her into the living room area, so I don't have to chase her all around the house, and same for the kitchen. (She likes to play with the dog's water, and toss toys into it...We lost a Playstation controller that way...ack!!!)

I have the cleaners, meds, etc in a place she can't get to, not that she has ever tried. But I do not have toilet covers or stove locks, becuase she's never in the bathroom or kitchen, and can't get to them the way my house is set up. And even when she is in those rooms, she has never shown any interest. She knows the stove is hot, and should never go near it, and doesn't really show much interest in the potty as of yet.
post #42 of 63
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Originally Posted by prothyraia View Post
Our neighbors had a similar incident involving twins who were a bit older and a jar of Crisco.
Good grief. That's a tough one. At least molasses is water-soluble...
post #43 of 63
I haven't read all the other posts, but here's my two-cents. Honestly, we have some of those locks/or wish we did, and it's not necessarily for my kid's safety: it's for my sanity! I can't tell you how many times a day I'm asking them to leave the toilet alone, stay out of x room/closet, not open/close fridge 50 times, etc.

There are safety issues, but my sanity would be central!
post #44 of 63
A lot does depend on the child.

We've gone along with just two locked cabinets--one under the sink, one in the bathroom. And we had a few outlet covers after he attempted to poke random metal objects in the general vicinity of the receptacles.

Now that he can open any door, I'm about to buy two doorknob covers--one for the front door and one for the closet where I store holiday gifts ahead of time. Our front door opens into our fenced yard, but he can open that gate, too, and our street is travelled by some daredevils.

We've moved stuff around in the kitchen drawers. Now that he's 2.5, we're working on explaining *why* we don't want him to play with knives and can openers. But he's 2.5, he doesn't exactly have impulse control, so we also have to keep an eye on what he's doing in the kitchen.
post #45 of 63
We did almost no baby proofing in our house. DS just isn't an "explorer" and he tends to listen when we ask him to not do things. He's never played with or in the toilet, for example. We do have some cabinet locks under the kitchen and bathroom sink, but that's about it.

Oh, and be careful of those outlet plug covers, they're choking hazards. Really, if you want to cover the outlets you should be using the ones that replace the entire plate and screw to the wall. We did use those in DS room (you know, the one where he never actually sleeps. )
post #46 of 63
I used constant supervision. The only thing we bought I think with our first in 95 was the outlet covers, but then they said they could choke so we threw those out.

I had two relatively placid easy going non climbing kids that only wanted to be where I was at.

I think supervision is the essential element in child safety for the young years.
post #47 of 63
I got a latch for my fridge to save my electric bill more than anything else. My LO kept flinging the door open and occasionally pulling out a couple items before I got to him.

We have outlet covers and one cabinet with latches as well. If/when the use for more baby proofing stuff arising, we'll get it.
post #48 of 63
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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
I think supervision is the essential element in child safety for the young years.
....says the person who....

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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
....had two relatively placid easy going non climbing kids that only wanted to be where I was at.

post #49 of 63

I agree that you should definitely use your child's cues. For instance, my 3yo twin Ewoks decided that it would be a wonderful idea to stick a brand new bar of soap in the toilet, flush it until it was lodged and making an impressive amount of bubbles all while the youngest was giving the eldest a swirly. *cough* Toilet lock, please! 

post #50 of 63

Meh, you'll find many people go overboard with regard to safety in the home. I kept all cleaning supplies and meds locked up and I kept door knob covers on the door because dc learned early to sneak out. :) I did not lock the fridge, toilet, etc. I think teaching your child to stay out of certain things is the best way and close supervision is key. 

post #51 of 63

With my first daughter, we had a child proofing company come in and do a lot of things, and most of it was unnecessary, particularly the toilet lock which I disabled after I almost had an accident.  My daughter never left my side, for the most part, she wouldn't explore on her own.  I think the tethers for the furniture were helpful for more than just children, they helped in earth quakes, and we did have a tv on a stand that was easy to pull over, so that one came in handy at least once when we had an earthquake.  The refrigerator lock was so useful to me, honestly, because both my kids would just go in the refrigerator and sit if you let them.  

 

We were in a new house, and I didn't childproof much with my second child, and she was an independent explorer type who ruined a number of things when I wasn't watching closely enough.

post #52 of 63

We used outlet covers with my first until we figured out she loved trying to pry them out of the outlet.  The minute we took them off she left the outlets alone.  We closed the bathroom door so she couldn't play in the toilet and by the time she figured out how to open them she was old enough to understand that the toilet is gross and to leave it alone.  We have one baby gate at the top of the stairs, but that's the only thing in the house gated off.  We had cabinet looks (hair ties) in the kitchen b/c I just couldn't deal with all my pots and pans being dragged out so she could cook.  Medicine is in the top cabinet where she can't get and our stove knobs are on the top (thank goodness) so she can't reach those now either.  DH is adamantly opposed to tethering anything and I don't care so nothing is.  We have a huge flat screen tv and DD never touches it.  She got yelled at once for pretending to and now she just leaves it alone unless she's turning it on.  She's also never in the basement with the tv unless I'm with her though.

post #53 of 63
I haven't needed anything with DS, but it is largely because of his personality. He is cautious and careful and really easy to predict, and because he's my first he is supervised a lot (He's hardly ever out of sight and even then usually I'm listening to him the whole time). I'm sure that the game plan will be different when we have our second. hide.gif
post #54 of 63
I follow the kid around and if it becomes a problem, I buy the safety gadget. Not all things become a problem for all kids. But do check to see if you have any large piece of furniture that can be climbed up and fall on someone, or that become unstable if the drawers are pulled out and could topple over. Once something big and heavy starts falling on a little person, it's too late.
post #55 of 63
I agree with a pp who said a lot of the 'childproofing' gadgets are more about convenience and sanity than actual safety.

Obviously there's nothing wrong with using items that make your life more convenient! Although I have found NOT childproofing to be a sanity-saver, because the only time I get 5 minutes 'to myself' is when DS is emptying out non-childproofed cabinets!!

I would call my DS a cautious explorer -- he is literally into everything, climbing everything, etc. but seems to have a pretty good innate sense of safety so he doesn't actually get hurt often... our childproofing may be different if our next kiddo is a risk-taker!!

I focus on the things that could cause serious injury or death. We do no have strangulation hazards around (i.e. blinds with pulls) and the few chemical products we own are locked up. We tried outlet covers but he was soooo into them that we ended up rewiring all our outlets to have internal shutters. That's probably more than most people would do but this kid has a fascination with tools and taking things apart and stuff so it seemed essential to me!! We keep glass in the upper kitchen cabinets, and sharp knives etc. are out of reach & eyesight, but none of the cabinets have locks and he is free to 'play' with whatever is in them, though he rarely does anymore. We have locks on the windows that are higher than 1st floor level, and we have a stairway gated off due to construction/tools in the gated area, but no other gates or door locks. We don't worry about choking hazards except certain things like marbles, because DS has a great gag reflex (too good! lol), though we were more cautious when he was under 1. We also make sure to keep any standing water in a closed room (so if we are soaking something in the bathroom sink or the tub or whatever, that room gets closed off). We don't have any furniture that is likely to tip over so we didn't worry about anchors. We make sure there are no entrapment hazards. We don't have any other childproofing items... no fridge/stove locks, cabinet locks, toilet locks, etc. and on the surface it looks like we've done nothing but the gate... but we also don't have dangerous knickknacks or furniture with sharp corners or anything so I guess our house is just child-friendly to begin with.

The worst was from about 9mos-18mos... he was so into everything and it drove me nuts at times but he escaped unharmed (and my cell phone somehow survived multiple trips into the toilet!!) and now at almost 2.5 he tends to be better about avoiding things we've asked him to avoid, as well as good as using items properly -- plugging things in, using knives/scissors/etc. carefully, things like that. He really doesn't play alone much though, and the few occasions that he does, I check in on him whenever I can't hear him, just because I'm not sure what he'd do if I wasn't watching since there are so few opportunities to find out... I do think he's learned a lot by having things accessible to him rather than all locked up, and I feel like it's made my life easier in the long run... but he is a quick learner and so cautious so the same thing might not work for another kid!
post #56 of 63
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Originally Posted by bobandjess99 View Post

For us, the toilet locks aren't out of safety so much as not wanting EVERYHTING we on to be throw in the fricken toilet. Which is what ds would do. He would also attempt to play in it at EVERY opportunity. Eeeewwww.
 


Yup-I didn't buy one, we just keep the door closed but DD2 will play in the toilet & throw anything she can in there if she gets access to it.  A few times it was after DD1 peed & forgot to flush.  So GROSSSSSSS.

 

It really does depend on the child.  With DD1 I never had to use anything.  Not one of the devices anyone got us at our shower were opened.  Never had to cover outlets, never had to block anything etc.  DD2 is wild & now we really have to think about safety. 

post #57 of 63

we didn't do too much proofing.  used outlet covers though she has brought a handful of them proudly to us.

we put a latch on the pantry door.  that stuff was apparently very tempting.

dh built a stair gate. 

i was particularly proud of draping sheepskins on the rock fireplace with a high hearth, b/c it looked so cozy and much nicer than any of the fireplace products out there.. but we have taken them down.. took them down when we used the woodstove in winter, she understood it was "hot" and didn't attempt to get closer.. and she will now play far enough away from the rocks for my comfort. 

dd is an explorer, but seems (knock on wood) willing enough to listen to us about the things she can't have and why.  like i said, she really gets "hot" and leaves that stuff alone.  i have occasionally told her something was 'hot' when it was merely dangerous. 

and all i have to say about the toilet is.. i love kevin henkes, the children's book author, but in the book Owen, deciding to include the character dressed as "captain plunger" was a bad choice. 

i think there's a large amount of stuff marketed to scared parents. 

 

post #58 of 63

I think it depends on the kids.

 

The worst moments we had were *because* of a safety item. :(  It caused both me and the children to be too reliant on that, and not aware of keeping a reasonable and safe space from the danger.

 

We cover outlets.  That's about it.We live in a small home, and my little ones don't roam alone, there's always someone with them, either me or a sibling.

 

Also not a one of them out of three so far has been a climber, escape artist, or curious about the stove.  I don't know if we just got lucky, or if it's genetic, or if it's something we do.  We haven't even had a toilet obsessive one.  They leave cupboards and shelves alone.  If they want to get up higher, they find a stool or chair to climb on, rather than drawers or shelving.

 

 

If we had a child who was more challenging in this regard, I'd do what needed to be done for safety.  But thus far a lot of that stuff hasn't been necessary.

post #59 of 63

we actually have a decent amount of safety gadgets. with dd (our first) we just had outlet covers, the occasional locked cabinet, and a door knob cover on the basement door. then ds1 came along...he's a climber and managed to pull his (thankfully fairly light) bureau ove ron himself because he pulled out the drawers and then climbed them. so, heavy furniture in his room is now attached to the wall. we still have outlet covers, dangerous cupboards have locks, medicine cabinets have locks (dd liked to sample things after she had been put to bed and we were unaware she had escaped her room). the pantry has a hook and eye latch because ds1 likes to "shop" and has pinched his fingers in the hinges multiple times. we have a gate around the pellet stove...the kids understand 'hot' and don't mess with it, but the glass gets VERY hot and i'm afraid of one of them tripping and bumping it or something. the top of the stairs has a gate becaus ewe have an ancient house with steep stairs. and ds1 has a door knob cover on the inside of his bedroom door. i would love to find a different solution to that! he climbs the gate though, and also needs his door shut at night to sleep, so gating his bedroom isn't an option. and since he climbs gates, the one at the top of the stairs isn't much of a deterent. safety-wise, i can't chance him getting out of his room and falling down the stairs in the middle of the night when we're sleeping. oh, and the livingroom is gated in either doorway to contain the 2 older kids while i'm nursing the baby. why oh why do they try to escape and/or get into things as soon as you settle in to nurse?!  and th eglass door on the entertainment center has a lock because i didn't want the kids to break it and get hurt, as well as it drove me nuts that they were constantly trying to mess with the vcr/dvd player and such.

while it may seem like we go overboard to some, we mainly follow the kid's needs.

post #60 of 63

We have absolutely no child proofing paraphanlia in our home and never have.  We have never needed it.  But that's dd's personality, I know that I can trust her to not get into anything.  I was just moving some windex today (dh is obsessed with windex, its our only nasty cleaner) and I ended up putting it under the sink in the bathroom, in the cabinet that is kept closed with dd's stool in front of it (so she would have to move the stool to get into the cabinet, which is something very noisy to do) and I was just thinking (as I'm pg with our 2nd) "I wonder if this will be an okay place to store this with the next one"...

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