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Join me in negotiating w/ a cc company to cut my balance in half!

post #1 of 24
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Update June 16, 2009:
With the current economy, more and more credit card companies are willing to take 35%-50% of the balance as payment in full. I've had some people tell me the credit card companies have called THEM with offers below 50%. If you don't have lump sum cash, some lenders are willing to spread out the payments over several months.


Here's my plan for paying off $25,000+ in cc bills in the next few months.

Firstly, I hope no one judges me for that awfully high number - without going into details, dh and I are super hard working, own 3 small businesses and live in one of the highest col areas in the country/world. A lot of that is business investment and INTEREST, I feel totally justified in trying to cut a deal, I've def paid what i originally owed!


That being said, this is my plan: notice all the "IF'S" - I'd like your opinions on how feasible these are.

CC #1 $6,500 - cash in my mutual fund. This was something my dad helped me get started in my college/single years (he gave the first $1000 the rest was my contribution). After taxes it is just enough to pay this card off.

CC #2 $2,500 - ask my landlord - who I think knows and trusts us enough to do this, dh thinks so too - if he would give us our 'last month's rent' back. I would explain to him why. (getting big cc bills paid off). He would still have another $2500 as security left.

CC #3 #19,000
Negotiate with cc company. Tell them:
"I have been bouncing this balance around to 0% nterest cards. When this zero APR ends, I'll leave Citi. You will NEVER get $19,000 from me, I have the income tax forms to prove it. I did HOWEVER just get a huge tax refund of $5,000 and a small inheritance of nearly $5000. Wanna make a deal?"

translation:
huge tax refund = I'm hoping - this is how much we got last year, unbelievable, right?

inheritance = well, a white lie. i would ask my dad for a loan to be paid off in monthly installments over the next 2 years. I think he'd do it if it made this whole plan come to fruition.

Anyone else wan to try negotiating? Tax time is coming, maybe your bills aren't as staggering as mine. Check out this info below:

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/debt...ttlement.shtml
post #2 of 24
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I would like to add that I now only pay for things w/ my debit card and only have one cc in my wallet for necessary purchases (online, emergencies). I am determined to NEVER be in debt again - this is not a quick-fix that will allow me to spend more. None of this spending is random shopping for fun, it is food, subway, shoes for girls. 85% of our clothes are from thrift stores. I've considered Dave Ramsey - but we have NO WHERE to cut expenses since we really do not spend. Just always trying to trim our food budget in this expensive city. I don't even have stuff to sell, since we live simply in a 500 sq foot apartment.

ok, i'll stop highjacking my own thread
post #3 of 24
I've been debating doing this on my 2 CC's - but they are very low balances - $2500 and $2000 respectively. I don't mind closing the accounts, but have a small {$700} card that I pay in full monthly for rewards that I'm worried about it affecting. I don't want to lose that card as I earn about $100 a year just using it to pay bills.



I have been really tempted to do this with my citibank student loan too but I don't know if it would work. It's an alternative loan and I owe $37000 on it.
post #4 of 24
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it can't hurt to try......
post #5 of 24
Will they do this if you are current, or do you have to fall behind?
post #6 of 24
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I will not fall behind. Some 'get-out-of-debt' companies have you ot make payments for a few months and put them aside in a special fund, then offer the lump sum. But I do not like to not pay my bills - thats why I came up with the 'story' of a sudden chunk of money coming my way. And from the quote in my opening post, it sounds like the cc companies might be more ready to make a deal nowadays.
post #7 of 24
I'm wondering if they will do this if you are current as well. If you've been a good customer and are making your payments regularly then they will make so much more $$ from you in the long run if you don't pay it off early. I wonder if there is really that much incentive for them, especially if you have a high balance as they are making a lot of $ from the interest each month?

Please let us know how it goes when you contact them.
post #8 of 24
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they make NO money from me in interest - it is a 0% card.

and if they check my history, that balance has always been on a 0% card, for a long time anyhow. the only time they make money is when i've had to pay the initial 3% to make the transfer. come june, i'll take another offer (it's incredible, they keep coming....)

the article i linked to specifically (and wisely) advises against being late in your payments. besides - if i were to be late once, all bets are off and the 0% jumps to 20% (or whatever) and that figure goes SKY HIGH. no thanks
post #9 of 24
Please let me now how this goes!!! Thanks!
post #10 of 24
I settled with three different cc over the past six months or so including citibank. I was behind on my payments. Citibank initially offered a 65% settlement and I told them that that would not be possible and then I called them back a month later and offered 50% and they took it. But then the day the payment was due, they tried to tell me that it was the 65% due. I didn't pay that much but just be careful of this trick.

I doubt they will be willing to work with you if you are not behind. They closed our accounts and reported it to the credit agencies as "settled for less than the full amount owed". It is not good for your credit and at least in my experience, they are only willing to do it if you are pretty seriously delinquent already. They seemed much more willing to negiotiate when I told them that my next step would be bankruptcy and they wouldn't get that anything from me.
post #11 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSimplicity View Post
[B]Update June 16, 2009:
You will NEVER get $19,000 from me, I have the income tax forms to prove it. I did HOWEVER just get a huge tax refund of $5,000 and a small inheritance of nearly $5000. Wanna make a deal?"
Good luck! I fail to see why they'd let you pay $10,000 if you have just said you'd transfer the balance - in which case YES they would get their $19,000 - from the next cc company.
post #12 of 24
Even if they make a deal, how does this affect a person's credit?
post #13 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSimplicity View Post
they make NO money from me in interest - it is a 0% card.
and if they check my history, that balance has always been on a 0% card, for a long time anyhow. the only time they make money is when i've had to pay the initial 3% to make the transfer. come june, i'll take another offer (it's incredible, they keep coming....)

the article i linked to specifically (and wisely) advises against being late in your payments. besides - if i were to be late once, all bets are off and the 0% jumps to 20% (or whatever) and that figure goes SKY HIGH. no thanks
If they've not made any money off you in interest why in your opening post did you say "A lot of that is business investment and INTEREST, I feel totally justified in trying to cut a deal, I've def paid what i originally owed!"

You can't really justify asking a company to give you 50% off your debt can you, when they aren't even charging interest?

I think it's scandalous not to pay for what you charged, I can understand interest and carrying a 20 year debt because you paid the minimum that's different than flat out asking them to forgive half of what you charged on the card that has no interest rate.

That part doesn't make sense to me.
post #14 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSimplicity View Post
I would like to add that I now only pay for things w/ my debit card and only have one cc in my wallet for necessary purchases (online, emergencies). I am determined to NEVER be in debt again - this is not a quick-fix that will allow me to spend more. None of this spending is random shopping for fun, it is food, subway, shoes for girls. 85% of our clothes are from thrift stores. I've considered Dave Ramsey - but we have NO WHERE to cut expenses since we really do not spend.
I have no advice on the CC debt since we just paid ours off instead of negotiating.
But I would be careful with having the CC open at all. It sounds like you have justified this CC debt as all stuff you NEEDED. Be careful. I am a Dave Ramsey follower and basically what he says over and over and over again, is live below your means. So if you make $4K a month, live on $3,800. Dont spend more than what you make. If you can't do that you have two choices, either make more, or spend less. If you continue to spend more then you make your going to rack up another CC bill again.
Good luck on getting rid of those credit cards!

I wish you luck on your CC negotiations. I hope they take the settlement.
post #15 of 24
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i haven't paid interest to the current creditor - like I said the balence has bounced around to a few cards, only the most recent 2 were 0%, previously I've had high interest rates. i just consolidated 3 cards to this current one. The 0% ends in about 6 months.

I had a feeling someone would challenge my spending, hence my disclaimer in the op. Trust me, nothing scandalous is going on here, except maybe the increasingly deceptive way cc companies have been operating in the past decade or so.

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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
If they've not made any money off you in interest why in your opening post did you say "A lot of that is business investment and INTEREST, I feel totally justified in trying to cut a deal, I've def paid what i originally owed!"

You can't really justify asking a company to give you 50% off your debt can you, when they aren't even charging interest?

I think it's scandalous not to pay for what you charged, I can understand interest and carrying a 20 year debt because you paid the minimum that's different than flat out asking them to forgive half of what you charged on the card that has no interest rate.

That part doesn't make sense to me.
post #16 of 24
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thanks rev - but the cc is for online purchases - I've read a few times that one should not use a debit card online - that if anything fraudulous happens your bank accounts can be emptied........though they wont find anything in mine
post #17 of 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunflower.mama View Post
Good luck! I fail to see why they'd let you pay $10,000 if you have just said you'd transfer the balance - in which case YES they would get their $19,000 - from the next cc company.
hi sunflower - hmmm a wrench in the works. i'm gonna have to think about this one, i guess threatening them with another transfer won't work. How did I miss something so obvious.......
post #18 of 24
The problem with offering 50% is you could be sent tax forms on the balance. It could be taxable income or that 50% discount, could be collectable from the CC at a later date. (make sure you get everything in writing). I am not a huge fan of 'lets make a deal'. While I have some huge bills to pay they are my bills. I did file CH 7 in the past and it was a lifesaver but I vowed never to be in any position like that again. Now I have some large (10k) student loans to pay back. I'm not going to screw the bank, I entered into a contract with them, I charged the money, I took out the loan, I knew the terms....I have my big girl pants... I will pay it back...
post #19 of 24
Yes, you have to pay taxes on any "forgiven" loan, even if it's all interest and late fees, even if you take a credit hit. If memory serves, it's like a 20% tax bracket. So if you negotiate a 50% settlement on $25K, be prepared to pay $2500 in taxes (if it is, in fact 20%).
post #20 of 24
So, have you called the credit card company yet? I'd love to hear how it goes!
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