Herpes Zoster rising in 10-19 yr olds...

[13Sandals]

but the CDC can't figure out why...gee - do you think maybe the vaccine is pushing the disease into the older population? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19536039


OH, and Merck did a study that shows that since 1996 (beginning of push for varicella vax), Shingles recurs more often than previously thought. Gee - we better add more chicken pox boosters and start those shingles vaxes a lot sooner.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-a...n-than-thought

Cradle to grave booster for Herpes Zoster - once an innocuous, one-time childhood disease that actually (we know this now) helped the older population avoid shingles. Nice going Merck!!!

[cyberfish]

My 4 year old daughter had shingles about a month ago. The dr. thought she must have picked up subclinical chicken pox from freshly vaxed kids. Thanks a lot Merck!

[HappyMommy2]

Maybe I am too new to this, but I don't understand. I can't tell when you are being sarcastic, vs. what you are trying to say. help clarify??

[Juvysen]

Originally Posted by HappyMommy2

Maybe I am too new to this, but I don't understand. I can't tell when you are being sarcastic, vs. what you are trying to say. help clarify??

Basically: the constant circulation of chicken pox in the child population gave us adults consistant "boosters" via the constant exposure to the disease that we had already had. Now that it's no longer circulating, those of us who have had chicken pox (as well as those who have had the cp vaccine) are more likely to get a case of shingles, which is essentially a re-infection from the same virus. Shingles, however, is much more uncomfortable and dangerous than chicken pox, so it's kind of an annoying switch over.

I believe they found before the vaccine came around, though, that the folks in nursing homes were more likely to get shingles than those not in nursing homes because those in nursing homes weren't re-exposed to the circulating CP like those living amongst the rest of us are. Something like that.

Anyway, basically, we're not ALL tied into getting the cp booster and the shingles vaccine (that they now have) to try and ward off shingles when previously it would have happened naturally by the simple re-exposure to the virus in our environment.

[k9sarchik]

The CDC knows very well why we have a shingles epidemic right now!!!!

http://www.injectionbook.com/techpublications.html


http://www.injectionbook.com/chickenpoxvaccine.html

In these publications written by someone who worked on the studies, hired by the CDC to track chickenpox. He noticed that shingles cases were rising in the community and had a funded study done.
Because the CDC can't admit that they are ever wrong they did some pretty shady things to try stop these publications in peer-reviewed journals.

It is frightening how they can have such knowledge and suppress it when knowing that adults and children are suffering with shingles. All because they would never in a million years admit that the chickenpox vaccine should be pulled from the market!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrsMcCullen07]

I didn't get a chance to read the articles but wanted to say my 2 year old has not been vaccinated again CP and DH got shingles at 27 (I was pregnant at the time) ... now he's afraid tobe exposed to CP (will that make shingles reappear)

[Sileree]

This is testimony to the CDC’s willingness to pursue a policy for which there are known and admitted harms at a population level, but it also stands in contradiction to the policy elsewhere of targeting the young to protect adults (as with Hepatitis B and flu vaccine) since in this case it does the reverse: the only real consistent aim seems to be to push the most products to the great benefit only of the vaccine industry.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/11/d...cine.html#more

[denimtiger]

Originally Posted by MrsMcCullen07

I didn't get a chance to read the articles but wanted to say my 2 year old has not been vaccinated again CP and DH got shingles at 27 (I was pregnant at the time) ... now he's afraid tobe exposed to CP (will that make shingles reappear)

No, being exposed to chickenpox does not cause shingles. Being exposed to shingles can cause chickenpox, but not the other way around. Once you've had CP (or the vaccine), the virus basically stays latent in your body, and can be reactivated by stress or a lowered immune response to the virus. Being re-exposed to the actual virus strengthens your immune response and makes you LESS likely to get shingles.

Some theorize that there is a fundamental purpose for people having chickenpox because the disease is (or was) ubiquitous in every population on earth, and the disease keeps itself spreading through shingles.. even if CP "dies out" in the population, it keeps getting reintroduced through children being exposed to elders who develop shingles.

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

about the being exposed to cp and catching shingles.

[Plaid Leopard]

CP vax is not widely used here in the UK (most parents I have spoken to didn't even realize there was a vaccine) so I am off to research shingles incidence over here).

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I did a quick search and found this

Basically says the shingles incidence has remained steady over the years. I also saw a graph for Wales which showed the shingles rate to be fairly constant year to year.