i knew it... he brought up induction

[First-Time-Mommy]

let me first say i'm not mad at anyone but i am really stressed.

i go in for my appointment today... everyone acting in 'shock' that i'm somehow still pregnant, even the nurse who is normally stand-offish and excuse me but simply a b*tch. - my OB walks in and the first thing he says is, "wow i really wasn't expecting you to be here today". ok. so he proceeds to do what he does. i'm still 3cm's and obviously from last time 100% effaced(i know i've said the last couple times that i was planning on ending checks, but... curiosity kills the cat right?). when he was done he turns around and says, "so do you want to get it over with?". i said, "no i'm fine", sort of in a snappy tone... not to be mean but i knew what it was drawing up to; the discussion of induction. - he said if i didn't have this baby by next friday he would be scheduling an induction sometime that week. this flustered me, and even more so when i found out he considered me '38wks' and not even '39wks' as i had been calculating. i said, "so what there is no 42wk mark here?", and he just grins and says, "no that would be too dangerous for the baby".

okay so, he tries to schedule me for another appointment on thursday, where i declined and asked for a friday, whereas he says he wouldn't be in friday so i would have to see another OB at the other office. i accepted that instead, but i am NOT going down all that easy. i plan to refuse a check from this unknown OB and if he tries to schedule me for an induction so be it but i am NOT showing up for it, nope. - now, i know induction isn't all that bad to some people, but this is not what i had intended. if they are so worried i will seriously drag my butt out of bed every morning at the crack of dawn once a week or whatever just to let them hear the heartbeat or take a look at the babe, 'cause if there is nothing wrong with me or him, i am not going to be seduced into induction all that easily, and technically still being '38wks' by his calculations not the ultrasounds(which is what i was going by, which made me 39wks not 38wks, but whatever)... i would be induced AT 40wks, there is no grace period or nothing with this man.

i know i can't be forced into induction, i want to know my baby is okay, so if it really lead to needing induced to save his life than okay, but honestly... if we are fine i find NO point in 'getting it over with', i'm happy this way thank you.

i am going to start walking more, being more active, and try nipple stimulation to try and get things moving however... i could fight with this guy over induction all day long and still not budge(i am very stubborn), but still, i am getting closer and if i can go into labor on my own and avoid anymore conversation with this OB i will be much happier to get it over with, have my baby, come home, and forget all about that man.

[First-Time-Mommy]

omg, i think he may have done it anyway. or maybe i'm doing it on my own i dont know. - i woke up early this AM around 4:00 or so to use the restroom. when i wiped it felt different so i flipped on the light and there was a big glob of mucus. i went back to bed.

i get back home and i had to pee. i noticed when i wiped the the tp was a light dingy brown. i wiped again a few minutes later and there was red mucus... so now i have NO IDEA if my OB did something or if i'm doing it on my own.

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

[kirstenb]

Good for you about putting your foot down!

I know with DS I could feel when they were messing around down there- it was pretty incomfortable. If you couldn't feel anything maybe you are just getting ready on your own? I wouldn't let them do any more checks though since they are pretty eager about induction.

[notjustmamie]

Did the exam feel any different than usual? It's possible for a CP to strip your membranes without your consent during a cervical exam (though they should still GET you consent before doing anything). It's also possible that you're at 38/39 weeks now and things are moving along on their own. Stripping membranes is one of those things that only seems to work if your ready, anyway.

I would be concerned about an OB who is recommending induction for a healthy mama/baby before 39 weeks. ACOG doesn't even recommend that anymore.

I hope you will soon have your baby in your arms--in his own time!

[shakenbake]

he might have "scared you" into labor hehe that baby might be going ok no pit im coeming mommy i sure hope so hunny im in the same boat =-(

[Kirsten]

Not in your ddc but saw under new posts...

You might just be going into labor or he may have stripped your membranes during a check. If baby is head down, I don't see why you'd agree to any more checks though.

They can't MAKE you go in for anything. You might FORGET an appointment. You might have overslept. Maybe the car battery died. Oops.

Next time I'd hire a midwife.

[november]

Hi mama, it's me again. Just wanting you to know that I am still going through the same thing -- just as we both had feared, so at least we're not in this alone!

It's promising that you're losing your MP, though! Hopefully you're in labor right now and by the time you see this, you're already holding your sweet baby.

I wish our doctors didn't suck so bad. =0( **HUGS**

[kcparker]

Originally Posted by First-Time-Mommy

he considered me '38wks' and not even '39wks' as i had been calculating. i said, "so what there is no 42wk mark here?", and he just grins and says, "no that would be too dangerous for the baby".

GAAAAAAH! What is WRONG with this guy? It's NOT dangerous for the baby. Is he insane? There is NO reason to induce just for dates - for goodness sakes, what ever did women do before pitocin, right? It must have been wall to wall dead babies in the olden days...

[Shell_Ell]

I agree--- the "dangers" of postdates are when you are actually postdates aka 42 weeks plus. And most of the time, if you are monitored that last week, there's no reason you can't safely go two weeks past (or more, depending on your comfort level)

Just say no. To exams, to induction. Say "No thank you" and come back for your next visit.

[Lily's_Mom]

I am about these ob's wanting to induce women at 38/39 weeks for NO REASON!! No PIH, not even 'big baby' concerns. I don't get it.

[BroodyWoodsgal]

I just want to congratulate you for your awesome, informed attitude toward this punk doctor who obviously doesn't have your best interest at heart...your baby and body thank you for putting your foot down and waiting til it's TIME!!

I hope these mucous chunks are a good indication that they won't have a chance to try and push you into an unecessary induction...good for you lady, be strong MAMA!!

[Noelle C.]

Originally Posted by First-Time-Mommy

he said if i didn't have this baby by next friday he would be scheduling an induction sometime that week.

What reeeeeaaaaallly bothers me about how this is phrased, and I know doctors do it all the time, so I'm not doubting you at all, is that doctors TELLING us what is going to happen, rather than if we'd consider X or want Y, really shows how we don't matter. It's not our pregnancies. It's theirs. They get to make the calls, and think that, as professionals, they should have the right. We pay the for the, uh, "privilege", of going through whatever pain they want us to, and on their time.

I'm a nightmare of a patient because I've got no problem screaming, literally, at doctors if they try forcing me to do what I don't want. I still remember the day a doctor tried forcing me to consent to a permanent ostomy. I'll be he never forgot it either. You bet I told him there was no way this side of hell I was going to do what was hardest for me just because it was easiest for him. Only louder, and filled with swears. It took a good 20 minutes of him badgering me to get to that point though.

We've got to look past the scare-tactics. There's a conflict of interest when the ones who are supposed to get to decide for us also stand to gain a lot of money by making certain decisions. There's no money in it for doctors if women have natural births with midwives or anything.

Originally Posted by First-Time-Mommy

i could fight with this guy over induction all day long and still not budge(i am very stubborn)

GOOD for you! I don't doubt many OBs just want to get their hands on the delivery money and bypass the extra office visits that don't yield as much. Sad that the Hippocratic oath means nothing these days. YOU need to do what is safest for YOU and YOUR baby. If that's not an induction, especially a month before you'd even be considered post-dates, then it's not an induction.

[ExuberantDaffodil]

Originally Posted by Lily's_Mom

I am about these ob's wanting to induce women at 38/39 weeks for NO REASON!! No PIH, not even 'big baby' concerns. I don't get it.

I don't get it either. Unfortunately, I totally fell prey to it with my first. My midwife (cnm) talked me into an induction at 39 weeks. For no reason. At all. Literally. I was young, not as informed as I am today, and tired of being pregnant, so I let her AROM and dose me up on pitocin. Never, ever again.

I'm 40 weeks now and miserable and still would never agree to an induction for no reason. Thankfully, I go to a woman-centered practice, and there has been zero talk of even membrane stripping.

The birthing industry and what I continue to learn about it is really starting to get on my nerves.

[tessie]

On the NHS induction isn't usually offered for being post dates until around 40+12. It's only offered prior to that for a genuine medical reason. Being tired of being pregnant definitely isn't one of them - I know women who've tried that one and been roundly rebuffed.

An induction before you're ready(ish) to go into labour fairly likely to end up as a section. If you and the baby are healthy then there isn't any medical reason to offer induction prior to your due date (and somewhat beyond that).

I'd also be surprised if anyone could accidentally strip your membranes - I haven't had it done but I've been told it's bloody uncomfortable.

[notjustmamie]

Originally Posted by ExuberantDaffodil

The birthing industry and what I continue to learn about it is really starting to get on my nerves.

I think DH is even coming around now that he's seen a pregnancy with truly woman-centered care (not just what they call it at the hospital).

[perditafoster]

[QUOTE=It must have been wall to wall dead babies in the olden days...[/QUOTE]

I about spit up when I read this...thanks. That was hilarious. You know, that is so totally everybody's attitude...we'd all be dead if it weren't for induction! And epidurals! And OBs playing the dead baby card every chance they get....sigh. I skipped my OB appt yesterday for this very reason...not even going to discuss AROM at this point and I know that's all we have left to talk about.
(disclaimer: I've had and induction and epidurals, so I'm not knocking mamas who do. Just knocking the OBs who are so crazy induction-happy that interventions do more harm than good)

[mamatolevi]

good for you for standing up to an ignorant OB! Stay strong and keep your panties on! CEs are useless and not predicitive of anything anyway and if you're panties aren't off, they can "help things along" for you w/o your consent.

Is he aware of the recent study about inducing for convenience prior to 39w? That hospital, by simply enforcing ACOG guidelines not to indcue w/o medical reason prior to 39w was able to reduce their c/s rate in induced, first time mothers from almost 35% to just under 14%. that's a 60% reduction in the c/s rate for induced, first time mothers Freakin' awesome!!

Here’s the related Obstetrics & Gynecology publication: http://journals.lww.com/greenjournal...Patient.7.aspx

"…and the frequency of cesarean delivery among nulliparas undergoing elective induction dropped from 34.5% to 13.8%, a decrease of 60%. (P=.01)."

here's the msn article on it:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33483153...alth-pregnancy

I can't believe the arrogance of the 'we're going to schedule your induction on...' What, you don't have a choice? The pregnancy police are going to come and get it you at 40w? and the grin and "it's too dangerous for the baby" What about dangerous for the mother???

[greenthumb3]

Originally Posted by Lily's_Mom

I am about these ob's wanting to induce women at 38/39 weeks for NO REASON!! No PIH, not even 'big baby' concerns. I don't get it.

Seriously! Right there with ya..and what if the date was off and the baby is even earlier in gestation than previously thought...these things affect Mom and Baby, like with breastfeeding sometimes, when it would be so easy to just let baby finish growing and save Mom and Baby some difficulty in their first few precious weeks together.

Way to stick to your instincts and feelings, First-Time-Mommy!

[jess5377]

Originally Posted by First-Time-Mommy

i am NOT going down all that easy.

[beebalmmama]

Good for you mama, stand your ground and keep your pants on.