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post #41 of 90
I'd mmob. And honestly, my DS1's 2.5 and won't be seeing a dentist till 3.5, because thats what my dentist (who I *LOVE* and have been seeing since I was a lil kid) recommends barring pain/other issues (ie teeth knocked out). I honestly have no idea where the closest pediatric dentist is, but I'd guess its at least a 1.5-2 hour drive away.
post #42 of 90
I would mmob. But perhaps offer some supportive helpful advice?

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It sounds like she's actually worried about what he eats, but is overwhelmed.
Because yeah - thats what it sounds like. For one, his mouth hurts - so thats a start. Its a pain when they get their teeth...its why we can't remember it! lol And its so hard to have a child who will not eat or will only eat certain foods. An idea like smoothies or soups, etc sounds brill and might be helpful. But beyond that, not your child. At least he isnt being swtiched with a willow stick.
post #43 of 90
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post #44 of 90
If she keeps bringing up the tooth pain.... Suggest she take him to the dentist... otherwise... it isn't your business.
My SIL feeds her kids (my neice and nephew) all kinds of junk, constantly... I hate it, but does that give me the right to but in? No.
post #45 of 90
One thing we used for teething pain was finely grated ice. My DD called it snow, and it had the consistency of snow. She was also picky when teething, but only ate strawberries, tomatoes, veggie juice, cheese and breast milk, with some occasional beans. I didn't worry because of all the breast milk. You could tell your friend that finely crushed ice helps and cold slightly acidic foods like tomatoes and strawberries can help too.
post #46 of 90
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Originally Posted by lach View Post
If licking the spoon while making cookies is wrong, I don't want to be right
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If you just saw my dd eating out or at other people's houses, you would think she ate nothing but sugar. She just won't eat when we aren't at home, so I feed her healthy stuff before we go, and don't really care what she eats once we are there. We just went to a birthday party today and all she ate was the icing off the cake and ice cream. But before we went she ate turkey, cheese squares, carrots, and apple slices. The funny thing is that when we came home we made cookies for a dinner at church tomorrow, and I put up pictures on FB of her licking the bowl! It never occured to me that people would think she only eats sugar. I guess I need to start posting pictures of her eating carrots!
post #47 of 90
has she asked for your advice? if not then for now I would mind your own business.

If it comes up again you could say something like "are you worried he is not getting enough nutrition? this has been going on for a while.....how do you make sure his nutritional needs are getting met. that must be challenging" if she says no then drop it. if she says yes then perhaps sugggest some other foods he may be interested in such as yogurt or fruit sauces or smooties. plain ice cream. these might not be a lot better but at least a variety. and not candy.

the mouth hurting for two months. Is that normal? I would have suggested right then she take him to a pediatric dentist. There could be deeper issues that need to be addressed. of course he could have just rotted his teeth out already which then the dentist can do the firty work.

also keep in mind when she says "that is all he eats" may really mean "he eats way more than i am comfortable with" but he truely does eat other things. although just from what you saw i would say things look poorly for the poor little guy. but it is not your place to step in unless you are ready to end the friendship over it.
post #48 of 90
I think you should keep your opinions about the food choices to yourself. A lot of people let their kids eat ice cream and cookies sometimes, especially if they are out at a special dinner. I don't think you can tell how your food restrictions will affect your child until they grow up and move out of the house so I think it is a little early to pat yourself on the back just because you have never introduced your child to sweets.

I do think that you should also recommend that she bring him to a dentist. He probably has some cavities, or even some dying teeth, causing him a lot of pain. I have seen many preschool children who have many teeth removed and cavities filling their mouths because they didn't brush adaquately. My dd's friend has had two root canals and has one false tooth and my mother's friend has a grandson who had to have four root canals and had some of his adult teeth affected by his bad diet before they even grew in and he was only four.
post #49 of 90
I know that family! Ok, not that exact one, but same situation. LO is given healthy meal, refuses to take a single bite, Mom breaks out the ice cream. Family came to our house for dinner, and we offered LO yogurt (called it ice cream) and she wasn't fooled. Didn't eat anything that night. We minded our own business, they didn't ask for advice or suggetions, so...
post #50 of 90
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Originally Posted by WC_hapamama View Post
I second the "myob" approach.

My not quite 4 year old is an extremely picky eater. His only protein intake are Aidell's chicken and apple sausages, breaded chicken, fruit flavored yogurts, and cheese. The only vegetables I can get into him on a regular basis are in the form of spaghetti sauce and pumpkin in quick breads.

He is not one of those kids who will just eat anything if he's hungry enough, and starving him until he'll eat what I want him to eat doesn't exactly improve his behavior. Not a hill I'm ready to die on.
my 4yo is soooo picky and will go all day without eating if she doesnt like what is being served.

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Originally Posted by felix23 View Post
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If you just saw my dd eating out or at other people's houses, you would think she ate nothing but sugar. She just won't eat when we aren't at home, so I feed her healthy stuff before we go, and don't really care what she eats once we are there. We just went to a birthday party today and all she ate was the icing off the cake and ice cream. But before we went she ate turkey, cheese squares, carrots, and apple slices. The funny thing is that when we came home we made cookies for a dinner at church tomorrow, and I put up pictures on FB of her licking the bowl! It never occured to me that people would think she only eats sugar. I guess I need to start posting pictures of her eating carrots!
in our home, my dd1 has the best diet... whole foods, raw almond butter made fresh at home, sprouted grain bread, coconut milk yogurt, fresh free eggs, no dairy, a greens smoothie everyday.... but she really dislike most anything we eat anywhere. she dislikes ANY sauce, butter or dressing. she dislikes most breads, hates peanut butter, doesnt like tomato sauce...etc etc

so if we are out and she wants ice cream... she gets it.. she eats so well at home I dont worry about it. plus, what am I going to order her? plain noodles? plain rice? that gets old.

but I can guarantee that some of my friends think she has a horrible diet. all they ever see her eat is cookies, birthday cake, and french fries... one even made a comment once about all the sugar my kid eats. kills me... but who cares.

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Originally Posted by One_Girl View Post
I have seen many preschool children who have many teeth removed and cavities filling their mouths because they didn't brush adaquately. My dd's friend has had two root canals and has one false tooth and my mother's friend has a grandson who had to have four root canals and had some of his adult teeth affected by his bad diet before they even grew in and he was only four.
not to be the defensive but dd1 was exclusively breastfed until past one year, and never had anything but organic whole foods past that.... she had two root canals on genetically weak teeth at 3. my husband has horrible teeth adn his mother and father both had horrible teeth. so it *can* be genetics.

I have great teeth, I didnt get my first cavity until I was 21! and I was raised by a single mom who thought twinkies and dingdongs made a great side dish to tv dinners with koolaid. so..... just saying that teeth issues have a lot to do with other things too.
post #51 of 90
POOR BABY!!!!! with all that sugar, he's probably got a mouthful of ROTTEN TEETH. Not to mention, that sounds like a fabulous diet if you want your kid to be diabetic.

Hmmmm, my kids try to have ice cream and junk in place of meals too. You know what I tell them? Big, fat N-O spells NO! Ice cream and cookies are desserts. ONE cookie or a SMALL bowl of chips or cheetos is a snack, if you are still hungry after that, you go and get fruit from the fridge.

I saw this true story Discovery channel ER show--these ppl brought in their 2 year old with bleeding gums and refusing to walk. The kid's problem? They were feeding him nothing but oatmeal, because he refused to eat anything else! He had SCURVY. Vitamin C deficiency. He was also SEVERLY anemic. It was obvious they thought the oatmeal was healthy and "better than nothing" so nobody took the kid away or anything they just educated the parents. (in other words they weren't TRYING to harm the kid or deprive him of food or anything)

that could conceivably happen to this kid if literally the ONLY foods he'll eat are sweet baked goods, candies and ice cream.
post #52 of 90
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Originally Posted by peaceful_mama View Post
ONE cookie or a SMALL bowl of chips or cheetos is a snack, if you are still hungry after that, you go and get fruit from the fridge.

lol. i would rather my kids eat two bowls of ice cream and a cookie before I let them eat one chip or cheetos. blech.
post #53 of 90
plus, as long as the kid is getting chocolate he shouldnt have to worry about scurvy
post #54 of 90
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Originally Posted by Theoretica View Post
Remember mama...everything in moderation. Including moderation
OT, but I love this. I used to have a little sign that said, "moderation in moderation" in my living room. People looked at me funny sometimes, but I had it there to remind myself that an occasional splurge wasn't going to cause me problems.
post #55 of 90
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Originally Posted by peaceful_mama View Post
POOR BABY!!!!! with all that sugar, he's probably got a mouthful of ROTTEN TEETH. Not to mention, that sounds like a fabulous diet if you want your kid to be diabetic.
I know of a little girl, whose mother is a member of a food allergy support website I belong to, whose only "safe" food besides an elemental formula is cane sugar. Anything more than cane sugar, a particularly nasty tasting formula, and water/ice are the only foods she's allowed by mouth.

When they go out in public (yes, they do go to restaurants occasionally, this little girl eats a bowl of sugar. When she's at school and they're having a party, she gets lollipops made from pure cane sugar, or cotton candy made from pure cane sugar.

Why am I telling you this? Because you really shouldn't make judgments based solely on what you see from the outside.

For a very long time, the only restaurants I could take my kids to were Taco Bell, McDonalds or Burger King. Why, you ask? Because I have food allergic kids, and those were the only places where I was guaranteed to find a safe meal for my kids. When I'm away from my own kitchen, "safe" food trumps healthy food, because I'd rather feed my kids chicken nuggets or a taco than risk landing in the ER in a strange place.
post #56 of 90
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Originally Posted by SactoMommy View Post
All kids go through picky periods. A child development book said that par for the course ages 2-3.5 was one meal a day. At 4 kids are supposedly more open to suggestion when it comes to food, but I'm not there yet, so I don't know. I know that at almost 20yo, my sister still only eats ground beef, mac n cheese, and ramen noodles .
I think that stuff depends on the kid. DS1 would eat almost anything, except tomato sauce (except on pizza) until his teens. Then, he went anti-veggie - not all, but a lot of them. He's pretty good about everything else, though. DD1 has always been picky, and is only becoming slightly less so now, at age 6.5. DS2 would eat anything until about four, then he got pickier, although he's still not a really picky eater.

Me? I was really picky as a kid. Until I was in my 20s, I wouldn't eat anything made with tomato sauce (major social handicap to be a teenager who hates pizza, btw). I started eating pizza, then spaghetti, then tacos, then chili. These days, I cook Indian and Thai from scratch. I'm not that picky, anymore - although I still won't eat mushrooms. My sister, otoh, basically still only eats things that were on our table growing up (mom has moved way past that), and not even all of those. I think a lot of this is highly individual, and guidelines are just that...guidelines.
post #57 of 90
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Originally Posted by Theoretica View Post
Then again, this is the same kid who wolfed down a massive handful of deer turds when she was 9 months old...:
Just gotta say !

And a note on tooth health. Like others have posted, a lot is genetic. My mother brushed my teeth for me for years and we got NO sugar growing up and my baby teeth still almost all fell out rotten. Dh got a LOT of continuous sugar growing up and still has a minor candy obsession and has yet to get a cavity. Double .
post #58 of 90
Definitely mind your own business. I certainly wouldn't want people judging me for what I fed my kids at a buffet place.
post #59 of 90
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Originally Posted by WC_hapamama View Post
For a very long time, the only restaurants I could take my kids to were Taco Bell, McDonalds or Burger King. Why, you ask? Because I have food allergic kids, and those were the only places where I was guaranteed to find a safe meal for my kids. When I'm away from my own kitchen, "safe" food trumps healthy food, because I'd rather feed my kids chicken nuggets or a taco than risk landing in the ER in a strange place.
This is true of us, too. One of the "nice" things about fast food is its uniformity. Dd has so many allergies that she can't eat chicken nuggets, McD's fries, or tacos--but she can eat McDonald's soft serve ice cream. I'd love to take her to local place that makes homemade ice cream--but I can't guarantee that the scoop hasn't been dipped into a flavor that will send her to the hospital. But processed soft serve from a machine that makes only one flavor she can actually eat. When we pass a McDonald's, she calls it "the ice cream store."

Dd probably eats more junk than most many MDC kids--her diet is so severely limited that I don't mind if she has ice cream or allergen-free Belgian waffles or whatever, particularly since the vast majority of processed foods are already off limits to her because they contain allergens. I feel like she deserves to have SOME fun with food.

Today she ate a big bowl of Irish oatmeal with flaxseed for breakfast, and we served quinoa, braised cabbage w/ apples, organic pork loin, and sliced melon for dinner (she didn't like the cabbage but ate the rest). She had a banana and some organic cheddar cheese for snacks. But for lunch, she went out with her grandparents--and since she can't eat ANY restaurant food (risk of cross-contamination too high, even if we could somehow rejigger a dish for her), we sent her with an Ian's allergen-free chicken nugget meal. People don't see what she eats at home, and I'm sure some people in the restaurant think we're horrible parents for feeding her such junk.
post #60 of 90
i also want to point out that tooth pain does not necessarily indicate decay and that was not my point. There are many reasons why the poor little guy is in so much pain. A trip to the dentist could clear that up as well as address dietary concerns since he can return to normal eating.

for example my dds wisdom teeth are coming in side ways. most kids do not need to get their wisdom teeth out at 12 but since heres are busting through in the wrong direction it is causing her much pain. And I have seen the x-rays. you wouldn't think it is possible but those bad boys are completely sideways and starting to break through the gums on their sides.....go figure. but the pain is not decay. however in the absense of x-rays I would have assumed it was just the pain of them coming through or she had a cavity somewhere.

So one need not speculate on why the childs teeth hurt to merit recommending a trip to a dentist. and while healthy children do not need to see a dentist reoutienly as toddlers one who is in severe enough pain that it is interupting his eating for a prolonged period of time clearly ought to be seen.
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