Another Paleo/GF Support Thread? - Page 3

[FairyRae]

We could totally swap non-TF hubby stories.

Originally Posted by Chouette

Even if I found an alternative pizza crust that I'd be willing to eat, I know he wouldn't.

I see myself doing two things: either making big batches of pizza dough to freeze for him so that he can at least put his own pizza together (and not bring cheap frozen pizzas into the house!), or trying to share meals out of the same ingredients, but mine (and hopefully my daughter's) without the crust. Does that make sense? So he'd have all his toppings on top of a crust, and I'd just put my toppings, say some spinach, mushrooms and olives in a baking dish with a few premade meatballs or sausage and some sauce and extra cheese and then bake them together.

This makes sense to me! *My* 2.5 yo ds would not be ok w/ it though--he wants to eat what daddy is eating, (even if it's just an allergen free sub of what daddy is eating!) Hence, my recent search for a decent grain free bread substitute (which I've figured out--yay! Ds was happily dunking his seed based toast in his runny eggs this morning, just "like daddy". I stuck to the eggs as the toast is a far cry from the grain-filled toast I used to love and crave...

I've made some ok gluten and grain free 'pizza' that ds has LOVED just because he's eating pizza w/ daddy. I've read about folks using shredded zucchini, cauliflower, and potatoes for a pizza crust w/ good results (I think with cheese and perhaps egg blended in to bind it--potato crust can be made w/ no cheese though). I plan to try some of these when we either are doing cheese or get this cool sounding cheese sub that is free of my ds's allergens (and the ingredients don't sound like poison )...

Maybe those are ideas to keep in the back of your mind *just in case* your dd is not ok w/ skipping the actual pizza when your dh is eating it? I'm not sure your dd would even care about this, but just thought I'd share! And, you're a much kinder wife than I making that homemade pizza dough--if it's got ingredients ds or I don't eat, I'm not making it! I'd probably ask my dh to get the frozen pizzas. I'm a real meanie though!

(ETA: My cruelness irt making special food for my dh may be related to his great disdain for almost anything homemade, ESPECIALLY when it's made by me! Including delicious, gluten and sugar filled homemade birthday cakes (not made by me)--he almost always prefers storebought foods. I am grateful he likes home cooked meat and potatoes type meals at least!)

[FairyRae]

Here is the almond flour crust from Elana Amsterdam's The Gluten-Free Almond Flour Cookbook. I haven't made it, but have read online that it's good...Just thought I'd share it!

Pizza Crust
Makes 1 10 inch pizza crust

1 1/2 cups blanched almond flour
1/4 tsp sea salt
1/4 tsp baking soda
1 TBS grapeseed oil
1 large egg

Preaheat oven to 350. Combine dry ingredients in one bowl, wet in another, then blend until thoroughly combined. Place the dough between 2 peices of parchment paper and roll into a 10 inch circle 1/8 inch thick. Remove the top piece of parchment paper and transfer the bottom piece w/ the rolled out dough onto a baking sheet. Bake for 15-20 min, until lightly golden. Remove, add toppings while still warm.

(I guess put back in the oven until the cheese melts? The directions are all paraphrased, just fyi!!)

[Chouette]

Originally Posted by FairyRae

We could totally swap non-TF hubby stories.

(ETA: My cruelness irt making special food for my dh may be related to his great disdain for almost anything homemade, ESPECIALLY when it's made by me! Including delicious, gluten and sugar filled homemade birthday cakes (not made by me)--he almost always prefers storebought foods. I am grateful he likes home cooked meat and potatoes type meals at least!)

Heh, if mine hated the things I made, I'd probably be a meanie, too! It's not all kindness on my part--not only do I really need him to live a nice long disease-free life, but I also don't need him to be setting a poor example for our daughter. She's had way too much processed junk in her short life, and the majority of it has come from Papa. I really want her to have an appreciation for the difference between homemade and store-bought (and not just with food).

That almond flour crust sounds interesting. I imagine it would be yummy for one of those "artisan" type pizzas like gorgonzola fig or something like that.

Okay, while we're on the subject of Primal/Paleo and Pizza, have you mamas seen this guy's answer to grain-free pizza?
http://freetheanimal.com/2009/10/ano...pepperoni.html

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by Chouette

Heh, if mine hated the things I made, I'd probably be a meanie, too! It's not all kindness on my part--not only do I really need him to live a nice long disease-free life, but I also don't need him to be setting a poor example for our daughter. She's had way too much processed junk in her short life, and the majority of it has come from Papa. I really want her to have an appreciation for the difference between homemade and store-bought (and not just with food).

Ah--b/c of my ds's food sensitivities, processed/store-bought stuff is just out for him no matter what (just try to find a boxed anything free of corn or soy or gluten!). I'm certain this would make a difference to me as well! (And I'm *hopeful* my dh will move towards a more TF diet, or at least less processed foods--he is interested in it but just is very set in his ways [*cough* food sensitivities *cough*] about food. He is actually planning to get a celiac test very soon--he has tons of the symptoms, and has suffered from IBS his whole life. I'm very interested in the results as it might lead to learning more about ds's gluten sensitivity (I don't want to test ds b/c he's been free of gluten for so long he'd need to start eating it again for the test--not happening right now!) But we each need to make our own decisions about our bodies and our own health...so I really try to accept where he is in the moment irt food which seems a lot more helpful than being naggy about it--how I once was...Ok--dh ramble done!

Originally Posted by Chouette

Okay, while we're on the subject of Primal/Paleo and Pizza, have you mamas seen this guy's answer to grain-free pizza?
http://freetheanimal.com/2009/10/ano...pepperoni.html

Hey--is there a recipe for that 'meatza' on his blog (I couldn't find one)? It looks like ground beef for the base, sauce and cheese on top w/ pepperoni and onions? I'm intersted in learning how he gets it to hold together--eggs in the base? Very intriguing--might have to try it!

[crunchy_mama]

mmm, pizza! I haven't found a good crust yet that is grainfree. Personally, I tried an almond flour one, but the version I tried was seriously lacking. All the dairy versions look heavenly- I really, really hope that this new babe tolerates milk!!!!!! The last few times I have had dairy I seem to do ok, so I think if the new babe tolerates it I think I can add back in some for myself. I am planning on trialing at the new year w/ the kids as well and I hope that some is ok for them as well= that would sure make life easier. I am hoping their milk intolerance was secondary to the damage from the gluten, but I guess we'll see!

Oh, and dh made his weigh in competition at work!!!!!! I am soooo proud of him, all as healthy as we could. His friends used hydroxycut and such, but not him and he still made it. He says he is determined to keep up good habits so he don't gain it back.

[crunchy_mama]

oh, and in case anyone is following- mw visit went well- bp 100/60 baby's hr 130-150. Baby head down and well engaged- optimally positioned. Still no signs of labor at all- officially due Sunday- I may actually make it to my due date with this one!

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by crunchy_mama

oh, and in case anyone is following- mw visit went well- bp 100/60 baby's hr 130-150. Baby head down and well engaged- optimally positioned. Still no signs of labor at all- officially due Sunday- I may actually make it to my due date with this one!

I'm glad your babe is doing well!!! Hang in there!

More labor inducing vibes your way!

[crunchy_mama]

I have to totally brag on dh more!!! He just called and was telling me how he can feel a difference in how he feels and how he really wants to stay w/ eating healthier and he told the guys no soda anymore- someone bought him a soda today to be nice. He resisted the donuts someone brought in, even though they had his favorite and he LOVES donuts. He went crazy today, but he went crazy w/ chicken wings(bone in- not breaded) I am sure there was tons of sugar in the sauce, but that is such a big improvmeent for him. I just cannot believe it. I know he isn't long term w/ this yet, but even this is amazing for him. Of course he won't be as crazy strict as he was this past week, but I am stoked he is not eating his sugary b-fast cereals and such anymore. He is doing almonds and jerky and dark chocolate for snacks.

[FairyRae]

Wow! Yay for him!! That is so awesome! And I think a tribute to the power of gluten/grains--when you do get them out of your system, they no longer (for me at least) seem to be something I insatiably crave! It's like getting them out of you enables you to make a CHOICE to not eat them. (I really didn't feel like I had a choice in the past--I felt like I HAD to have them when they were around.)

Yay for all of you! It is so wonderful to eat good food and feel so wonderful!!

[crunchy_mama]

This am I am trying the McSog(http://www.sonofgrok.com/2009/03/the...fast-sandwich/ ) b-fast sandwich- we'll see how it goes suddenly I have a craving for a sandwich type thing and that looks so good. I am so wishing I could find some good bacon around here! I have got to find a decent source of pork.


I totally agree w/ the cravings analysis. I was a total binger. If it was in the house I had to eat it. I am still not perfect in that regards, but I can avoid a lot more things than I could in the past. And as long as I stay well fueled it is generally not a problem at all. Like I can buy some dark chocolate and not have to eat the whole bar at once- that is amazing to me. Before I remember buying some bags of dark chocolate candy and going through about 3 bags in 2 days. It is such a work in progress though!

I think I am going to put the icecream freezer in and make us some coco milk icecream this weekend for a treat- dh says he is majorly craving icecream.

[Teenytoona]

Ok, I've not even been doing this a week, and I already know what you are talking about about the craving binging on grain/starchy things. It's just somethign I'm not interested in. It's soo wierd. Usually I'm the first to make something "festive" by getting out snack food (pretzels with dip or somethign like that) and the past few days, I've just not wanted that!

I so understand about being the binger. Oh-ho was that me.

I'm hoping this lasts!It's awfully great and heartening! I know T-day will be a challenge. I"m planning on that day being my "test eating all that stuff again" day and see how I do. I know there won't be alot of other options besides turkey that fall into this, so it should be interesting.

[Teenytoona]

Oh, by the way, crunchy_mama, good to hear the update on your baby! Those last few weeks are so exciting aren't they (so long as everyone stops asking "when's that baby coming?").

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by crunchy_mama

Like I can buy some dark chocolate and not have to eat the whole bar at once- that is amazing to me. Before I remember buying some bags of dark chocolate candy and going through about 3 bags in 2 days.

It IS amazing. I used to eat ALL the candy or desserts available around me, whenever I could get them, then feel sooooo guilty about it. What is fascinating to me is that both my dh and ds have been able to eat one bite of chocolate or candy etc. and put it down--always. Ds has been free of gluten and other stuff for a long time, but dh has not, and he does not have the binge types of issues I always did. But I've never limited my ds in what he can/can't have (I make allergen free subs of everything he wants to eat, really whenever he wants them--I made the coconut orange cake from Nourishing Days into cupcakes this am b/c he wanted cupcakes ). I think this plays a part as well. Not having the thought of 'when can I eat this next? better fill up NOW!' in the back of his mind I think makes a big difference. But for *me* getting that stuff out was vital to me really getting in touch w/ my body and my actual physical needs, etc. Everything I eat now feels like a *choice* where it really didn't b/4... For me, letting go of guilt related to food was paramount as well. I think there is a mental/emotional layer to all this, but it is still a very deeply physical issue...

[RunnerMommy]

I don't have time to read or reply right now but I am subbing! I'm so excited to find this thread- I've been looking for something like this for a while now.

[Teenytoona]

Originally Posted by FairyRae

It IS amazing. I used to eat ALL the candy or desserts available around me, whenever I could get them, then feel sooooo guilty about it. What is fascinating to me is that both my dh and ds have been able to eat one bite of chocolate or candy etc. and put it down--always. Ds has been free of gluten and other stuff for a long time, but dh has not, and he does not have the binge types of issues I always did. But I've never limited my ds in what he can/can't have (I make allergen free subs of everything he wants to eat, really whenever he wants them--I made the coconut orange cake from Nourishing Days into cupcakes this am b/c he wanted cupcakes ). I think this plays a part as well. Not having the thought of 'when can I eat this next? better fill up NOW!' in the back of his mind I think makes a big difference. But for *me* getting that stuff out was vital to me really getting in touch w/ my body and my actual physical needs, etc. Everything I eat now feels like a *choice* where it really didn't b/4... For me, letting go of guilt related to food was paramount as well. I think there is a mental/emotional layer to all this, but it is still a very deeply physical issue...

Yes yes yes! to this!

[crunchy_mama]

I think I am going to try lil_earthmomma's coconut bread recipe this weekend for some french toast as well, but thinking I will do sweet pot instead of banana- sounds super yummy!

So, we made pizza last night- I tried the meatza recipe, the cauliflower crust recipe and a gluten free flatbread(not grainfree- made w/ buckwheat/brownrice/potato and corn). Yes, I ate the cheese- the last few times I have had no noticeable reaction and the few times I tried before then no definite link to dairy. I am thinking perhaps it might be ok for me. I am not nursing but avoiding as it seemed to slightly bother me and I wanted to avoid having any dairy intolerant child- but hopefully the dairy issue was just secondary to the untreated celiac's- but I digress).

Anyway- the cauliflower crust got 5 stars by me and dh both. Dh doesn't like cauliflower in the least and I had asked him if he wanted a meat or cauliflower crust and he of course picked the meat, but said the cauliflower was better. I meant to try his meat crust, but it didn't sound the least bit appetizing after I cooked it. The kids had the flatbread and totally scarfed it down, total fail for primal kids. I should have made them a nut/seed flour one, but I didn't. They loved it though and ate the whole things and considering how rare I make them something like that I don't feel incredibly guilty.

Stayed grainfree yesterday. It has been so much easier lately. In early pregnancy I found it sooooo hard, but lately it has been like normal! I did cave and get some dark chocolate yesterday as I was having a rough afternoon and wanted some sugar, but I didn't even eat the whole bar- maybe 1/3. Bought some oranges and grapefruits yesterday as I suddenly had a prego size craving!!!! I LOVE grapefruit!!!(just plain)

Oh, made the SOG griddle cakes yesterday- definitely coconutty but not too bad- if I would have had some bacon as well it would have been pretty darn good. I did them as open faced though as I think doing them as a full sandwich would have been too much.

[Zenzero]

Originally Posted by crunchy_mama

I think I am going to try lil_earthmomma's coconut bread recipe this weekend for some french toast as well, but thinking I will do sweet pot instead of banana- sounds super yummy!

I made this yesterday (with the banana) for breakfast today, and it was really good...both as just plain banana bread and as french toast.

Originally Posted by crunchy_mama

So, we made pizza last night- I tried the meatza recipe, the cauliflower crust recipe and a gluten free flatbread(not grainfree- made w/ buckwheat/brownrice/potato and corn).

Anyway- the cauliflower crust got 5 stars by me and dh both.

Ooh, this is really good to know. We are planning pizza tonight and I was going to try one cauliflower crust and one coconut flour crust. Thanks!

Well done on staying grain free yesterday...I succumbed to a bit of rice at dinner, which I am actually quite happy with at the moment. My main priority is keeping away from gluten and just really limiting other grains at the moment to see how I do, with an eye to cutting them all at some point if I think I am having problems with them.

[crunchy_mama]

Originally Posted by Zenzero

I made this yesterday (with the banana) for breakfast today, and it was really good...both as just plain banana bread and as french toast.

OH, glad to read another rec. I have not even attempted french toast in the entire time we have been gf, so I am excited to try this!

Ooh, this is really good to know. We are planning pizza tonight and I was going to try one cauliflower crust and one coconut flour crust. Thanks!

Well done on staying grain free yesterday...I succumbed to a bit of rice at dinner, which I am actually quite happy with at the moment. My main priority is keeping away from gluten and just really limiting other grains at the moment to see how I do, with an eye to cutting them all at some point if I think I am having problems with them.

I think it is important to remember the saying that MDA uses a lot, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. And of all grains to eat rice as to my understanding is about the least harmful-hard to digest. I know I am not perfect and with any healthy eating path it is a journey- you gotta find what works for you!

[lil_earthmomma]

I made grain free chocolate cake and it's beautiful!!!! It's three square layers, with pink italian buttercream frosting (holy is it ever buttery, nothing like disgusting frosting from store bought cake! I was floored at the difference) and some fudge buttercream accents. My friends probably won't even know it's grain free, except that I'll be eating some.

[crunchy_mama]

Oh, that sounds totally yummy!!!!

On a sad note I didn't make the bread I don't have enough eggs. Drat! Not sure what to make for our special b-fast tomorrow now. Although dh won't be home so it won't be the same(he is working overtime).

I ate some chili w/ beans tonight and a potato, so not paleo, but still grainfree.