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post #21 of 34
This is so sad!
post #22 of 34
poor baby


when will it stop???? needless deaths
post #23 of 34
mama2many, would you still think this was ok if it was a girl being circ'ed?

BTW I'd never pierce my child's ears. When they reach an age where they can be responsible for that choice, then I will allow them to if they wish. But I'd never pierce their ears as a baby.
post #24 of 34

The parents SHOULD be blamed in this case..

http://www.canada.com/vancouver/thep...9-2b634e4302d0


"But Tanna McWillis says she and her husband, Brent, a medical professional who worked at the hospital at the time of his son's death,"

And they are blaming the HOSPITAL for improper care instructions? The father was a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL who should've known darned well that a bleeding baby needs medical attention!!

Hold the parents responsible in this case. There is no excuse for this kind of ignorance.
post #25 of 34
Do circ.s usually bleed? You would think any amount of bleeding (other than a little drop or two) would have been a huge red flag. Not to mention the other signs a person exhibits when bleeding out. i do think these parent should be blamed. when you take responsibility for intentionally cutting off the body part of a child you had better dam* well be imformed on how to take care of them.

I htink the role of the hospital ought to be investigated. Unless these people did something to make thier son bleed then the hospital messed up. And bothparties who contributed to this babies death need to be help acountable. And every parent having this done needs to know that bleeding to death is a likely complication.

It is beginning to seem like every familyI know who has had this done has had some sort of complication. Most of them (unfortunately not all) were wise enough to not have it done to thier next son. at least they learned. good grief. i need to go :Puke !
post #26 of 34
If the circumcision is done correctly, there should be no post op bleeding. What happens is the doctor is rushing to get finished and doesn't allow adequate time for the clamp to crush the foreskin and seal the blood vessels. After the child leaves, any slightly rough handling can break the inadequate seal and the child starts bleeding. Pretty much a rule of thumb is that if the child isn't gone at least an hour, they rushed it and have caused the child immeasureable pain and have endangered his life. That happens in the majority of circumcisions and only the luck of the draw keeps physicians out of the courtroom.





Frank
post #27 of 34
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post #28 of 34
I am so appalled that boys continue to die from this uneccesary procedure. That is a terrible story.

Queen Lizzie circumcised her boys? That seems very odd, I wonder why? Probably something to do with Philip and his weirdness. I am glad that Di refused for hers but over here it is generally only done (nowadays) for religious reasons. Every man that I have spoken to about the States continuation of routine infant circumcision has been one of outrage!


Oh and T.

If we still have a royal family by the time William gets the throne he will be King of Britain not just England (although that could be debatable and TBH I hope we get rid of them).
post #29 of 34
@ PinkSunfish (quite off-topic as well):

As far as I know, circumcision used to be a sign for the upper class and aristocracy in Britain. Queen Elizabeth probably didn't have much of a choice. I don't think it has anything to do with Prince Philip, however strange he might be. He's originally from Germany, right? Aristocrats and royal families here – long are they gone – never adopted infant circumcision.

What I am wondering when I'm reading about this: In school (in connection with genetics) I learned that the British (and some other European) royal families used to have hemophilia running in the family, mainly because of long centuries of intermarrying among each other. They're lucky that this combination never led to any tragedy. Just imagine – finally, the successor to the throne is born, and tragically dies due to his medically unnecessary circumcision only days later. : But probably the hemophilia problem was already dealt with when the circumcision mania started.

Stardust

Edit: Disastrous spelling.
post #30 of 34
" fair amount of bleeding is normal" OK but to me fair amount means spotting or a circle of blood in the daiper. not a soaked diaper. Those parents were terrible neglegent.
post #31 of 34
"Queen Lizzie" did, in fact, circumcise her boys. You've got to remember they were born in the late 1940's and early 1950's and the majority of boys in England were circumcised at that time. As a matter of fact, it was a thing of the upper classes and almost all boys born of parents of means were circumcised. Circumcision of the royal family's males was started by Queen Victoria and of course, everyone wanted to emulate the royals. All of the royal family wanted William and Harry circumcised and Dianna had the guts to stand up to them and say "absolutely not!"

Prior to the 1950's, an intact penis in England was a sign of lower class status. While routine circumcision started here and migrated there, the class distinction started there and migrated here. We were still trying to find medical benefits during that time. We were both wrong but the old beliefs still persist.




Frank
post #32 of 34
It is unimaginable that parents would repeat their horrible mistake. That mother really has a few screws loose! I hope she is never blessed with another son - because she certainly doesn't deserve one!
post #33 of 34
Quote:
Originally posted by mama2many
BUT the choice to decide what is best for the person is up to them AND the choice to choose needs to be protected.
Why doesn't this apply to your children?
post #34 of 34
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