Originally Posted by thispathisme
I know this is an old thread but this is where I'm stuck too. I'm not giving the CP vax to my kids. But if given the opportunity, do I have them exposed?
1. If I do, then they are at risk of developing shingles which can be very painful with long lasting ill effects. they "can" - or you can be like other adults and be exposed and exposed and still not get it
2. I find don't, then they cannot develop shingles but MAY catch CP as adults. This is bad for DD if she were pregnant and this is bad for DS because why? he can spread them and as an adult "can" have complications
3. CP vax has increased shingles infections because people who have already had the CP are not getting natural boosters from being exposed to CP on an ongoing basis. But how DO you get shingles? They don't know.
The virus lies dormant and just appears over time if there's been no natural boosting? it can and it's can't - they don't know what will trigger it in everyone - I will tell you a family member just died and she had it 3 times that we know of - STRESS!!! for her- she was NOT a candidate for the shingles vac - because she had other health issues and her system was far to weak
some have severe pain, not itching and some only have itching and not much pain at all, also some only get a "belt" of shingles, others get it all over
4. So there's a vax for shingles for people 59 and over, is that right?yes but not everyone really should have it, so you expose, they get it and must wait (as of now) until they are much older- by that time you don't know if they will have other health issues that will prevent them from getting the shingles vaccine- it's a real crap shoot! Since CP cases are so low now, and boosters are the answer to avoiding shingles, is the answer to get boosters for CP now? ? if you do, you can get shingles as a child or young adult and still not get the "shingles" vaccine
first if you are "healthy enough" to get the shingles vac you most likely need to pay out of pocket for it - Medicare does not cover it and most in the age group don't have that extra money to do it- thus the low rate of getting it - also if you have other medical conditions your dr may not suggest you get it - so what will trigger it - that is different for everyone
With our family member the last time she had it, she was moving, one of the movers came down with CP and did not have physical contact with her - moved wooden furniture, he was an adult and it was very bad (we know if had to come from her, given the time and he was home also at the time and not around anyone else-no kids) and no one else that had shingles- he was the only one that got it- 9 day later but took additional day to confirm it in him- no one else broke out with shingles at the time either
I can help maybe with a few things- there is another thread right now that may help you in the NOT vaccine section you may want to look at
Shingles (Herpes Zoster) vaccine
Some people should not get shingles vaccine or should wait.
A person should not get shingles vaccine who:
- has ever had a life-threatening allergic reaction to gelatin, the antibiotic neomycin, or any other component of shingles vaccine. Tell your doctor if you have any severe allergies.
- has a weakened immune system because of current:
- AIDS or another disease that affects the immune system,
- treatment with drugs that affect the immune system, such as prolonged use of high-dose steroids,
- cancer treatment such as radiation or chemotherapy,
- cancer affecting the bone marrow or lymphatic system, such as leukemia or lymphoma.
- is pregnant, or might be pregnant. Women should not become pregnant until at least 4 weeks after getting shingles vaccines.
Someone with a minor acute illness, such as a cold, may be vaccinated. But anyone with a moderate or severe acute illness should usually wait until they recover before getting the vaccine. This includes anyone with a temperature of 101.3° F or higher.
This information was taken directly from the Shingles VIS [PDF - 132 KB]
(This information taken from Shingles VIS dated 10/6/09. If the actual VIS is more recent than this date, the information on this page needs to be updated.)