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post #1 of 42
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I'm researching Himalayan sea salt.

Chemical content of Himalayan Salt
hydrogen, lithium, beryllium, boron, carbon,, nitrogen, oxygen, fluoride, sodium, magnesium, aluminum, silicium, phosphorus, sulphur, chloride, calcium, scandium, titanium, vanadium, chromium, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium, germanium, arsenic, selenium, bromine, rubidium, strontium, yttrium, zirconium, niobium, molybdenum, ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, silver, cadmium, indium, tin, antimony, tellurium, iodine, caesium, barium, lanthanum, cerium, praseodymium, samarium, europium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, holmium, erbium, thulium, ytterbium, lutetium, hafnium, tantalum, tungsten, rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, mercury, thallium, lead, bismuth. polonium, astatine, francium, radium, actinium, thorium, protactinium, uranium, neptunium and plutonium.

(I can't locate quantities of the chemicals)

Anyone know that some "safe levels" of these chemical are tested before selling this product? I assume?

http://products.mercola.com/himalayan-salt/
http://www.awholelottastuff.ca/himal...ystal_salt.htm
http://www.americanbluegreen.com/index.html

http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=297

Pat
post #2 of 42
Good conversation...not much I know except that I use RealSalt, and I like it. Hope lots of people know more than me!
post #3 of 42
I don't know. I do know that I just bought some Himalayan pink sea salt 2 weeks ago though, but haven't used it yet. Maybe I'll wait to find out more...
post #4 of 42
Sorry, I don't have any info for you. We use Celtic salt (for cooking) & Real salt in the shaker. I've never used Himalayan salt.
post #5 of 42
It would be reasonable to assume tho' that in combination with so many other minerals, those 'dirty' six or eight could have little to no impact.
post #6 of 42
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
I'm researching Himalayan sea salt.

Chemical content of Himalayan Salt
hydrogen, lithium, beryllium, boron, carbon,, nitrogen, oxygen, fluoride, sodium, magnesium, aluminum, silicium, phosphorus, sulphur, chloride, calcium, scandium, titanium, vanadium, chromium, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium, germanium, arsenic, selenium, bromine, rubidium, strontium, yttrium, zirconium, niobium, molybdenum, ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, silver, cadmium, indium, tin, antimony, tellurium, iodine, caesium, barium, lanthanum, cerium, praseodymium, samarium, europium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, holmium, erbium, thulium, ytterbium, lutetium, hafnium, tantalum, tungsten, rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, mercury, thallium, lead, bismuth. polonium, astatine, francium, radium, actinium, thorium, protactinium, uranium, neptunium and plutonium.
This is a list of 70% of the periodic table. The analysis from which it likely derives (sans hydrogen) is here.
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post #8 of 42
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Originally Posted by Otto View Post
This is a list of 70% of the periodic table. The analysis from which it likely derives (sans hydrogen) is here.
THANK YOU!!

Now, are those safe levels...


Pat
post #9 of 42
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post #10 of 42
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
Now, are those safe levels...
Well, all the upper limits (e.g., "<0.1 ppm") are nondetections; the figure given is only the nominal sensitivity of the test. This leaves

Al 0.45
Sb 2.27
Ba 0.18
Br 4.76
Cd 0.13
Ca 1380
C 68.0
Ce 1.87
Cs 0.82
Cl 598,000
Cr 0.191
Cu 0.69
Er 0.219
F 7.22
Gd 1.72
Ga 1.65
Ge 0.39
I 1.42
Fe 14.2
Pb 0.07
Li 0.59
Mg 20,100
K 2900
Pr 0.19
Rb 7.99
Sm 3.87
Si 10.7
Ag 0.063
Na 374,000
Sr 6.98
S 1680
Ta 0.53
Tl 0.69
Ti 0.38
V 8.78
Zn 4.92
Zr 0.48

These ppm's are fairly clearly by weight (mg/kg),[*] so, for example, you'd have to eat over 2 pounds of this salt to pick up 7 milligrams of fluoride. (I also randomly checked on cesium toxicity; 3 grams per day seems to be in the problematic range.)

[ETA:[*] Sorry about the "fairly clear" hand-waving. If the numbers were by atom, one would expect the main players times valence to balance out to zero, but -Cl+Na+2Mg-2S+2Ca+K-Br isn't close. On the other hand, Na and Cl are dominant either way, and 374:598 = 0.63 is very close to the mass ratio Na:Cl = 22.99:35.45 = 0.65.]
post #11 of 42
What makes Himalayan sea salt different from Celtic sea salt?

We were using regular table salt (iodized) in the salt shaker and regular sea salt for cooking and non-iodized salt in the neti pot.

I just received my first order of Celtic sea salt and we've been using it for the cooking and at the table. Well, DD & I prefer it to the regular table salt and just shake extra hard to get it out of the salt shaker. DH only uses it for cooking and still uses the table salt otherwise. I haven't used my neti pot recently and am wondering if the Celtic sea salt will be good. I plan on buying a hand grinder for the table.
post #12 of 42
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Originally Posted by sunnysandiegan View Post
What makes Himalayan sea salt different from Celtic sea salt?
For one thing, Himalayan "sea" salt is mined, not evaporated (it was deposited a long time ago). Mainly, though, it's the salt equivalent of terroir--somewhat different residual and trace composition after the 97% that is regular NaCl. Sulfur tends to be particularly noticeable (if you haven't tried kala namak, a little sulfur can go a long way).
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post #14 of 42
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Originally Posted by Metasequoia View Post
Sorry, I don't have any info for you. We use Celtic salt (for cooking) & Real salt in the shaker. I've never used Himalayan salt.
That is us as well. Although I have to see the pretty pink salt has always allured me for some reason.
post #15 of 42
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Originally Posted by sunnysandiegan View Post
What makes Himalayan sea salt different from Celtic sea salt?

We were using regular table salt (iodized) in the salt shaker and regular sea salt for cooking and non-iodized salt in the neti pot.
The issue is the availability (or lack there of) of micro minerals. Some folks use Concentrace.

Other sources of minerals:
Mineral water.
Grass-fed, organic homemade bone broth.
Local, organic greens. (juiced)
Kefir. (homemade)
Blackstrap molasses.
Liver. (grass-fed or organic)
Brazil nuts, pumpkin seeds, walnuts.
Salmon. (wild, not farmed)
Kelp. (heavy metal tested, organic)
Eggs. (pasteured)
Nettles infusions.
Chickweed infusions.

http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php
http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

And for the life of me, I can't locate a thread where we talked about the lead in sea salt. I've searched and searched. Basically, some brand had none, Celtic sea salt had a smidgen and Redmond's Real Salt had less. So, we started using Redmond's.

The Himalayan salt has MANY more minerals. Microminerals are essential to some health issues we are finding (such as mental health), but deficient in our soils. Generally, we also do not use mineral water and mineral baths as our ancestors did. Additionally, we have a more toxic water supply.

Water (and salt) is life, as they say.


Pat

P.S. table salt is very unhealthy, basically. It is mineral-stripped and has additive fillers, often corn derivatives, iirc.
post #16 of 42
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Otto View Post
Well, all the upper limits (e.g., "<0.1 ppm") are nondetections; the figure given is only the nominal sensitivity of the test.
These ppm's are fairly clearly by weight (mg/kg),[*] so, for example, you'd have to eat over 2 pounds of this salt to pick up 7 milligrams of fluoride. (I also randomly checked on cesium toxicity; 3 grams per day seems to be in the problematic range.)

[ETA:[*] Sorry about the "fairly clear" hand-waving. If the numbers were by atom, one would expect the main players times valence to balance out to zero, but -Cl+Na+2Mg-2S+2Ca+K-Br isn't close. On the other hand, Na and Cl are dominant either way, and 374:598 = 0.63 is very close to the mass ratio Na:Cl = 22.99:35.45 = 0.65.]

Brilliant!! You sold me!!


Pat
post #17 of 42
Thread Starter 
Anyone have documentation about the benefits of Himalayan "sole" salt solution?
Quote:
The sole is an excellent product for balancing the pH factor of your body. With the sole, one can also get rid of heavy metals such as lead, mercury, arsenic, amalgam and calcium because the crystal salt is able to break up their molecular structures. Treat your body to a sole therapy in order to get rid of the calcium build up and the heavy metal deposits. For the body to get rid of these deposits it has to first metabolize them.
http://www.natural-salt-lamps.com/sole.html

This seems a bit amazing to believe...


Pat
post #18 of 42
So I should start using my pretty pink Himalayan sea salt now?
post #19 of 42
Thread Starter 
Here is a 14 page treatise about the benefits of Himalayan salt. http://www.natural-salt-lamps.com/su...fits-guide.pdf

It proclaims White Gold to White Poison: "Part of the process for refined salt, or commercial table salt, involves the use of aluminum, ferro cyanide and bleach." !!

Pat
post #20 of 42
Thanks!

I'm ready to pitch the regular table salt, but DH is resisting due to the texture of the Celtic sea salt. The taste is fine for him, but it is damp and doesn't shake easily. Got any ideas?

Also, I need to use up more of the Celtic sea salt (1/2# bag) before buying Himalayan salt, but if there is something that shakes easily AND is healthier then DH would be all for it as a new table salt.

Lastly, anyone know if I can use the Celtic sea salt in my neti pot?
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