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post #21 of 44
I agree, you should charge what you think you deserve. Parents who are like-minded will pay for superior food, care, attention, activities. I think your location matters too. I've found i can charge $250 for a full week of care because i live in a large urban centre. My small hometown would probably not support that price, and there'd be fewer parents there who care that i would cloth diaper/feed organic/postitive discipline/unplug/outdoors a lot, etc. Good Luck! I'm loving staying home with dd and she enjoys having her friends over each day (well, most days)
post #22 of 44
Just curious how you feel about your home child care business's income? I've been a SAHM mom for 7 years and toying with the idea of running a before/after care and/or full time child care for a couple of years. But I was discussing this business with a few other adults and they questioned the amount of money I'd earn. I obviously wouldn't be paying for my own kids' child care. But my concern is making enough money for my own future. Do you find you are able to save for a pension/RRSP (I'm Canadian) etc.?

I'm torn between having fun running a child care business in my own home or going back to school to work to work as a practical nurse. The first option is appealing for many reasons but am curious if will be enough to provide for my older years. (I'm in my early 40s now.)

Any thoughts?
post #23 of 44
UI'm happy to have found this thread. I'm a SAHM to DD who is 14 months and i've been thinking of starting a home based daycare, even if it's just one kid, but with a maximun of 3. I live in a small house, dss is sometimes with us. I have a cat haha, I don't drive.

I posted an ad on craiglist but is people who want me to go to them and if there was good public transportation where I live I would. I'm making ads to post around town, I plan to get CPR/First Aid certified and I don't know what else. it's very helpful to read you though.
post #24 of 44
Hi!

I have been a provider for the past 7yrs on and off. I took time off between dd2 and a few yrs after dd3.

In my daycare, i have 1 1yr old(p/t depending on shifts), 1 almost 2yrs old(f/t), a 5yrs old(b/a school and summer) and a 7yrs old(p/t). It's going well with all my daycare kids and my girls. It's a good group.

Auraji- Check out your state or province regulations. Some are more strict than others, imo. Good luck!

Tuesday- I have seen older women do childcare until they retired. they loved every moment and don't regret it at all. I think you need to do a list of pro and cons and try to plan what you need to be able to retired from both employment. For me, I am only allowed to have 5 children under 6yrs including mine under 6yrs old and excluding mine over 6yrs old. So for me, I can't have the max of kids allowed, so I don't make the most $$ that I could. So, I don't have enough $$ in the end to save for later. Plus my kids are still young that we need my $$ for their needs. Your needs are differents and you will need to examine that and put that in your list.

HTH

As for pay, it really does depend on what the going rate in your area. Here it's about 150$ per wk, i think.
post #25 of 44
Tuesday - it varies so much with your location. Many moms do home childcare only when their own are small and the economics of that are different -- ie, I can write off that big playset and lots of the toys and some of the renos I'd want to do/have for my own kids anyway...ETA and, as Sandrine says, one's own babies count in the numbers when they are little, so your earning potential is less then, too. However if your kids are older and would not directly benefit from the home childcare setup, well, then you'd be really looking at your expenses and income in a more business-like way? I'm at a transition point where I need to shift to consider this more as a business and less as a way to stay home with my babies.

One thing to look at is factoring in expenses for work that you wouldn't have if you work from home, like maybe not having a vehicle?

You also need to look at the burnout factor. I do not maximize my income because I take several weeks off every year at different times -- some clients can't handle this, so that limits my pool of clients, too -- but I've done this for nearly a decade and know I cannot do this full-time fifty weeks of the year and not burn out.

It means a lot to my kids to have me here at home for them when they come home from school, though. And I love the lifestyle.
post #26 of 44
AHA! I new there had to be a thread I'm in the process of becoming licensed here in Australia. I have been a FDC provider in the past, for about 7yrs, on USAF bases so I'm not entirely a newbie.. but it has been a while~

So is there a new thread that I missed? (Hoping someone is subbed and will find me here talkin to myself )
post #27 of 44
I'm here. I haven't started yet, but I am planning to watch a friends baby in the early spring. I am too struggling with the amont to charge. I am considering she is a friend and doesn't have that high of a paying job (her husband supports the household). I will probably be back for tips at some point, just wanted to say hi.
post #28 of 44
Hi Cari !

I'm here. I have been spending a lot of time expanding and reorganizing my home childcare art center (part of a project for an ECE course I'm taking.) I can not get my own kids out of there, now, lol! My middle child (age 6) keeps marveling at how creative he is discovering himself to be, and the home childcare children are watching and learning - one of the one-year-olds is now cutting up cardstock (with the smallest pair of plastic scissors I can find) and the other one is addicted to drawing with chalk.

I have been having a slower time with only 2 children in addtion to my own -- and enjoying the slower time, and the chance to fine-tune my program and try some new things. A a family on maternity leave is coming back at the end of this month, so time to gear up again
post #29 of 44
I'm here too. Everything is pretty much the same. The dckids and my girls are all doing well. I do find that we get sick more often. ugh

I would have more space but i have to keep one spot for my new little one, coming in March 2011. If I take more, they would have to be p/u before a certain time so that i can acct for everyone that I already have. It's complicated. lol
post #30 of 44

I have been thinking about starting a hoe daycare. One small thing I am wondering about is what do you do about dishes? Do you use dispolables? Give each child a set that is only for them? I curretly only have my own kids and I just feed them off of my normal stoneware, but I don't think that is a good idea for day care. I'm not that comfortable with plastic, what about stainless steel?

 

Another thing, does any one here have an assistant and/or substitute care giver that comes to your home if you need time off? Can you do that if they are not certified, or is it just the facility itself that has to be certified? We are talking about a home here.

 

I welcome any tips because I am really new, thinking to start in early spring.

post #31 of 44

Dishes - I have used my own stoneware for years, no problem with breakage. I know some use Corelle. Used to have plastic for the daycare and my own as well but got rid of that.  I have a set of small Kleen Kanteens with stickers on them so everyone has his or her own to use at my house for water - I find them too hard to clean for anything else, so only water.  We use regular cutlery- I have a few smaller spoons for the really littles.  I have some stainless steel prep bowls  and pyrex prep bowls that we use for snacks and some smallish steel mugs that the older children use for milk.  I ask parents to supply bottles/sippy cups of their choice for milk.  A few parents have left the milk sippy cups behind when they've left, so I have a few backup ones to use if one gets misplaced.

 

 

Backup care - Laws, licensing, and certification rules vary so much depending on where you are.  I'd contact whichever body (probably state?) that deals with daycare licensing where you are to ask questions about staff certification.  For me, my dh is able to cover some things for me - he has a flexible work schedule. Some backup care is available through other providers - I have a list of local licensed ones through my agency and I am responsible for finding backup. I also discuss with families when they start that having a good backup care plan is important when you have kids in childcare, because things can come up, even when you use a larger daycare.  More than once over the last few years, larger daycares in my city have been shut down and parents have been left scrambling for care - and an epidemic of flu could leave a daycare understaffed and unable to care for kids even if it is a good one!  I make sure that parents know that the best thing for their children is for mom and dad to be proactive and line up  a friend or family member who can do the backup consistently when it is required if they can manage it.  It is in my contract that I refund pro-rated fees for the day if they use their own backup and I happily do this - saves me the hassle of finding backup myself.  

post #32 of 44

subbing :) I'm thinking about taking care of a child once we get resettled in a new place sometime in the next 6 months. I am curious if anyone has pets in their homes and if so how they manage that? We have two dogs, two cats, and a guinea pig and hope to have a bigger place where they can be separated. Also, does anyone rent and if so how do you deal with your landlord or would you just not mention it if it's only one child

 

Thanks!

post #33 of 44

HELLO LADIES!! may i join??? I watch a little 29 months little girl and i have a 3 and a half boy and a 15 month old boy... I used to have two more kids now  and then but had to stop cause the little girl was too much.. She's here about three days a week and then 2 days the week after . Unfortunately i think i might have to stop watching her cause I'm not really getting along with the mom. She has asked me to give the kid medicines , suppository's , etc and i told her no cause i didn't feel comfortable doing that. ( the mom is a nurse and uses medicine from her country so the labels are not in English, so i cant even understand what they are) She obsesses about the girl pooping,she wants me to save any diaper with poop in it and puts a suppository by 10pm if the daughter has not pooped by then.)..We practice gentle discipline and i asked to please talk to her daughter about it cause whenever shes playing she tells my son that he needs to be SPANKED and that he has to eat/play-shut up or he'll be spanked ( and has told me several times that mommy spanked her a lot).. I just don't like all this...so i might have to look for another kids....
Really great thread everyone!!!!!!

post #34 of 44

Hello!  Two of my friends and I are thinking about starting a licensed home daycare out of my rental house.  The house, deck, yard, and location are really ideal for this.  We're just starting to put together the pros and cons.  Pros are not having to pay for childcare ourselves, and spending more time with our own kids.  Cons are possible unstable income, no medical insurance, life insurance, retirement, paid vacations.  I'm trying to make a good decision about this that balances living in the here and now and planning for the future.  A lot of people around me have been diagnosed with cancer lately, and that has got me thinking that you cannot put a price on precious time spent with your children. 

 

Anyone have experience entering the "employed by someone else"  workforce again after having been self employed with a daycare for 5 years or so?

 

What are some of the things you wish you had known before you started?  How many days a week do you say "I love my job" compared to the days you want to tear your hair out?

post #35 of 44

Pranava, I've been doing this for a few years,  love working for myself, can't imagine working for someone else again.  Are you imagining working in the childcare field or in a different one?  

 

 

Have you considered looking into purchasing an insurance package for your business?  

 

 

I love being with my children - the hardest thing has been managing time off when they are sick, for dr appnts, etc.  If there are several of you working together, you could plan for that.  

 

Good luck!

post #36 of 44

If I could manage to save for retirement and put my kids through college by having a daycare, I don't think I'd ever go back to the regular working world.  If I do have to work for someone else again though, it would probably be in the science research/medical field doing writing and editing like I do now.  In theory, I could keep up some freelance work on the side so after years of running a daycare, I don't look out of touch with my field.  I just don't know how much time or motivation I'd actually have to do this on the side. 

 

How many children do you all watch?  Would 7 kids ages 16 months to 3 years be too many for 1 caregiver?

post #37 of 44

I am outside of Portland OR.  I am currently an exempt provider (no more than 3, other than my own who are school age). I love this job.  I am looking at getting registered though.  I have a 19 month old who has Down Syndrome every day, and a 15 month old three days a week.  I do drop in for any age the rest of the time.  Part of the reason I'm looking at getting registered is that I have to be so careful with the limit.

I am very AP, GD, and natural.  I think the parents I work for like that about me, and pay me extra for it, but they are not.  Knowing their kids are tv-free and eat organic and healthy here means they don't feel bad if their kid watches a video when they unwind from work, or if dinner is less than stellar, they know their child had real food earlier.  They've said as much to me.

 

The only area I differ with everyone here is I charge a flat dollar per hour rate when they are here.  If they aren't here they don't pay me.  I've only had one month where that policy bit me.  I really cater to the flexible schedule mamas.  Most of them are stay-at homes who want to get groceries, volunteer in a classroom, have a dr appt or a mani/pedi without the littles along.  I do some after school care also. My house is the bus stop for three different schools.

 

My boys love getting off the bus and playing with whoever is here.  I love being home and still getting all the time my boys aren't in school. I drop them off in the morning and I'm here when they get off the bus.  That is golden to me.

 

 

post #38 of 44

Hope it's okay to jump into this thread with a quick question---Are any of you home daycare providers located in Chicago's west suburbs?  I'll probably also post in the Finding your Tribe forum, but I thought there might be some good luck here.  Really I only need care for my 22mo for 3.5 hours/day, 4 days a week. If you are in my neck of the woods and are open to this, please let me know!  

post #39 of 44

Hi, everyone. I have a small home daycare. I have three small children and I take care of 3 kids who are 2-4 yrs old. I run an eco-friendly daycare and provide healthy meals made from scratch.  

I just applied to get recognized as eco-healthy. You guys might look into that. It's sponsored by the Oregon Environmental Councilhttp://www.oeconline.org/our-work/kidshealth/ehcc but it applies to everyone nationwide. It also gives you great tips on being eco-healthy. 

post #40 of 44

I'm so excited.  I have an interview tomorrow for a 5 week old little boy.  He'll be 4 days a week once his mom goes back to work.  The best part is they are a referral from a family I already have and LOVE.  I'm nervous they won't feel I'm a good fit, and I'm nervous they will want me and I won't be able to handle another one.  Breathe.  If they don't want me, it's meant to be.  If they do and I can't handle it I can always let them know.

 

Here's my question.  They haven't asked me how much I charge.  The family that referred them told me that the only people they've interviewed have been charging 10/hr, which is too much, but that I should charge them more than my standard rate.  The new mom already told me she works at a law firm downtown, but I don't know doing what.  Is now on okay time to change my policy on newborn rates?  The dad's of the two families are best friends.  I love the idea of the little guys being friends, too.  I'm thinking of saying my rates are a little higher than I usually say, but if that's the only obstacle to them choosing me let me know.  Provided of course that i get good vibes from them and want them as clients.

 

Any thoughts?  Is this the child care version of insider trading?

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