raw milk and the FDA

[WuWei]

The keynote speaker at the recent International Wise Traditions 2009 Conference:

***He soberly told us that all the farms that the work of Sally Fallon Morell and her Weston A. Price Foundation members have saved, are now under attack.*** (What follows is his speech)

“First, there is “this world” [referring to those of us in the ballroom], of people who welcome and respect nutrient dense foods. Then there is the other world, those who disparage nutrient dense foods. The only problem is, they are medical, public health and government health and agricultural regulators, who are very powerful people.” (there is more, a lot more...and it gets worse

http://hartkeisonline.com/2009/11/19/there-is-a-war-going-on-over-americas-food-says-award-winning-journalist/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+HartkeIsOnline+%28Hartke+Is+Online!%29


Pat

[Mama~Love]

Thank you for posting this! It's infuriating, to say the least! I really can't believe that the gov't thinks raw milk is a poisonous, dangerous substance! I really liked the comment at the end of the article, which was my thoughts as well:

So raw milk is dangerous to give to our kids, but vaccines loaded with all sorts of poisonous chemicals–and which are never tested before being released into the medical community–are SAFE!

Yeah. It's all about CONTROL and $$$.

[WuWei]

Two pro-raw milk perspectives:

1) raw milk is "untreated food from God". (the religious freedom position)

2) Raw milk is a probiotic food!
http://hartkeisonline.com/2009/03/29...robiotic-food/


Pat

[WuWei]

Effect of long term consumption of probiotic milk on infections in children attending day care centres: double blind, randomised trial


Children in the Lactobacillus group had fewer days of absence from day care because of illness (4.9 (95% confidence interval 4.4 to 5.5) v 5.8 (5.3 to 6.4) days, 16% difference, P=0.03; age adjusted 5.1 (4.6 to 5.6) v 5.7 (5.2 to 6.3) days, 11% difference, P=0.09). There was also a relative reduction of 17% in the number of children suffering from respiratory infections with complications and lower respiratory tract infections.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/322/7298/1327



Pat

[snowbunny]

Originally Posted by WuWei

Effect of long term consumption of probiotic milk on infections in children attending day care centres: double blind, randomised trial


Children in the Lactobacillus group had fewer days of absence from day care because of illness (4.9 (95% confidence interval 4.4 to 5.5) v 5.8 (5.3 to 6.4) days, 16% difference, P=0.03; age adjusted 5.1 (4.6 to 5.6) v 5.7 (5.2 to 6.3) days, 11% difference, P=0.09). There was also a relative reduction of 17% in the number of children suffering from respiratory infections with complications and lower respiratory tract infections.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/322/7298/1327



Pat

I am PRO-raw milk, but I think you run into dangerous territory when you extrapolate the results of this study to raw milk in general. It seems to me that the researchers weren't studying raw milk - just milk inoculated with lactobacillus. While raw milk is a probiotic food - and does contain a variety of beneficial bacteria - it doesn't seem to me that's what these children were drinking. If we are to put forth a scientific argument, we need to make sure our science is accurate.

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by snowbunny

I am PRO-raw milk, but I think you run into dangerous territory when you extrapolate the results of this study to raw milk in general. It seems to me that the researchers weren't studying raw milk - just milk inoculated with lactobacillus. While raw milk is a probiotic food - and does contain a variety of beneficial bacteria - it doesn't seem to me that's what these children were drinking. If we are to put forth a scientific argument, we need to make sure our science is accurate.

I agree. Lactic acid bacteria (lactobacillus) are common in raw milk. They are considered beneficial probiotics used to inoculate yogurt, of course.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...a1002da2e37066
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...00002/art00014

Raw milk contains lactic-acid-producing bacteria that protect against pathogens. http://www.realmilk.com/moreraw.html
http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/raw_milk_safety.html

The extrapolation that raw milk with lactobacillus could confer the same benefits as (pasteruized) milk inoculated with lactobacillus seems germane.


Pat

[WuWei]

More info about the safety of raw milk.
http://www.rebuild-from-depression.c...thogens_a.html
http://www.marlerblog.com/2009/09/ar...t-2/index.html
http://www.rebuildmarket.com/catalog/raw-milk.html
http://www.ethicurean.com/2009/07/20/raw-milk-2/
http://www.thecompletepatient.com/jo...to-hope-t.html

Make an informed choice.


Pat

[ursusarctos]

Yeah, this reminds me of the insanity that is the mainstream diet recommendations for pregnant women. My small-farm organic raw goat cheese is deadly poison, but the flu shot, margarine, and artificial flavorings are just fine and dandy