New rule regarding children visiting hospitals and immunizations - Page 2

[MyLilPwny]

I love how the nurse said that vaccines aren't 100% effective. The concept of having "enough people who are protected" does not apply either because vaccines have destroyed genuine protection, i.e. true immunity. True immunity lasts forever and vaccines aren't true immunity, hence the need for booster shots and when people don't get booster shots, they have no more fake protection (I don't think it deserves to be called immunity), which is 99% of the adult population.

Originally Posted by LowFlyingAnimals

I don't understand how you can not believe in "herd immunity?"

If you read everything in post #21 here, I think this is a good explanation that will answer your question.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...1159548&page=2

[caro113]

Originally Posted by LowFlyingAnimals

I don't understand how you can not believe in "herd immunity?" I'm curious what you mean. Herd immunity just means that enough of a population is immune to a disease either through vaccination or natural acquisition of disease that a disease cannot become widespread. There need to be a certain percentage of people who have not had a disease beforenit will become epidemic. That doesn't seem to be something you can or cannot believe regardless of your views on vaccination.

I think she meant she doesn't believe in heard immunity by vaccines. IE the argument that we have heard immunity to polio thanks to the vaccine is false.

Back to the OP: This really does seem to be random. A friend of the family went to the hospital when she was in labour and I had to physically go to the hospital and pick up her 4 yo because she wasn't allowed to be there. And DP had to wait in the car with DD because she wasn't allowed in the hospital at all. For a while, and this was before swine flu, children were not allowed in one of our area hospitals at all unless they were the patient. No exceptions.

[CCChanel]

Just shows you how non-user friendly hospitals are... if you are a parent and need to be in the ER what are you to do with your kids? Leave them at home to tend for themselves?

[Bokonon]

Originally Posted by CCChanel

Just shows you how non-user friendly hospitals are... if you are a parent and need to be in the ER what are you to do with your kids? Leave them at home to tend for themselves?

If you're so sick or injured that you need to be in the ER, how are you going to tend to your kids there anyway? I wouldn't bring my 4yo to the ER if I had to go - I'd make sure to find someone to watch him at my home or theirs.

[KimberlyD0]

Originally Posted by Bokonon

If you're so sick or injured that you need to be in the ER, how are you going to tend to your kids there anyway? I wouldn't bring my 4yo to the ER if I had to go - I'd make sure to find someone to watch him at my home or theirs.

Plus I also think of it, beyond their exposing others to illnesses, which can happen, they would be exposed themselves to a multitude of illnesses, many pretty serious. I avoid taking my kids to the hospital if I don't need to.

[Bokonon]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

Plus I also think of it, beyond their exposing others to illnesses, which can happen, they would be exposed themselves to a multitude of illnesses, many pretty serious. I avoid taking my kids to the hospital if I don't need to.

Not to mention the trauma of seeing and hearing things I'd rather not expose my child too, like gunshot injuries, domestic violence, etc.