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post #21 of 64
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Originally Posted by micah_mae_ View Post
Out of curiosity, what do they do after they are no longer RF if they are 4 or older? 5 pt ff'ing harness? Booster? And what age do y'all recommend keeping them in a booster or 5 pt harness after their RF'ing days are over?

Sorry for all the questions, I've always wondered!
Very few kids can safely go from a RF seat to a belt-positioning-booster. If they can, it's not inherently unsafe -- it's just not likely to work.

Kids can safely use boosters when they are at least four years old, at least forty pounds*, and are developmentally able to remain properly seated for the entire trip. A very very few 4yos are able to do this, some 5yos can, many 6yos can, and most 7yos can. This means that most kids will need to use a FFing harnessed seat between RFing and boostering.

* The weight is the most flexible part of this criteria, and it's kind of a sliding scale. Most techs would be okay with a 34# 7yo in a booster; very few would be okay with a 34# child in a booster the day after her fourth birthday.
post #22 of 64
chickabiddy/maedze, would you be okay w/a 35lb 7yo in a monterrey? dd turns 7 on jan 25 and tips the scale at 35 (35.5 on a good day )
post #23 of 64
Ds is 3yo3m & has tons of room to continue rf in his truefit. I thought id ff him @ 3 but changed my mind I really think he will make it till 4 height & weight wise. Of course my 17m is still rf as well They dont complain at all!
post #24 of 64
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Originally Posted by micah_mae_ View Post
Out of curiosity, what do they do after they are no longer RF if they are 4 or older? 5 pt ff'ing harness? Booster? And what age do y'all recommend keeping them in a booster or 5 pt harness after their RF'ing days are over?
The recommendation in at least the two scandinavian countrys that are on the world top for keeping kids RF the longest (sweden and norway), are boosters after RF-ing. The kids are 4-5-6 years old by then, and can sit properly in boosters. This recommendation is also there because they believe that in 5 pt harness FF-ing, the neck of a child will be under extreme pressure during an impact, the head will be thrown forward, the rest of the body being held back. And their necks can simply snap. It makes sense too, because in a 5 pt harness, their bodys stay completely still, held by the barness, and all the strain of the impact is put on the neck. Those are some major forces. But in a booster with the seat belt, the impact is more spread over the whole body, bc the seat belt moves a little, allowing the upper body to also take some of the impact, not just the neck.
So here, it's RF-ing, and then booster.
I go by the studies and statistics of these countrys because they are obviously leading in car seat safety for kids. Their mortality rate for kids in cars are extremely low, nothing compared to the US for instance where it's the number one killer of kids.
(We live in scandinavia now, and can use the seats here that RF kids up to 4-5-6 yo.)

And, someone asked if the kids wont complain about having to RF because of their legs. And no, they don't. They sit very comfortable with legs crossed or up in another comfortable position. It's when they are turned FF and still too young to reach the floor of the car they complain bc their legs dangle and fall asleep. Kids are very flexible, not like adults at all, and will be comfortable RF-ing as long as their parents don't tell them it's uncomfortable, or just think it is and turn them bc it looks like it is (without the kids complaining at all).
post #25 of 64
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Originally Posted by KayleeZoo View Post
chickabiddy (and 3b), would you be okay w/a 35lb 7yo in a monterrey? dd turns 7 on jan 25 and tips the scale at 35 (35.5 on a good day )
I would be okay with a 35# 7yo in a belt-positioning booster if it fit the child properly. IME/IMO, the Monterey does not fit smaller children very well -- I don't think I've seen a good fit on a <40# child yet. All kids are shaped differently, though, and if yours actually does fit nicely in the seat, then yeah, I'd be okay with it.
post #26 of 64
yeah, i'm not thrilled w/the fit. gonna try a vivo. maturity is definately there, though.

eta- the vivo's test numbers were less than impressive crap.
post #27 of 64
we turned DD at 3 yrs 3 months when she outgrew the RFing limits of her BLVD. At the time I really considered getting her a 40 lb radian, but in the end decided not to.
The next kid will get a radian XTSL so she'll be RFing for a looooonnnggg time!
post #28 of 64
We love our Vivo My son rear faced to the max weight limit of his seat at 2 and 9 months. Earlier than I would have liked... Buying a new seat was not in our abilities at that time, and I felt comfortable with our decision to turn him in a properly installed, top tethered seat. I encourage parents to follow the AAP recommendations of rear facing to the maximum weight limit of their convertible seat. I work with mostly very low-income families, who's maximum weight limit is the 35lb Scenera that we provide. The reality is simply that the longest you can rear-face the best.
post #29 of 64
My goal is to keep DD RF until she is 4. She's pretty big though, so I'm not positive we'll make it in the TrueFit. We're TTC another babe, so we'll probably get a higher limit convertible for her and pass down the TrueFit. We'll see what's on the market when we actually get pregnant.
post #30 of 64
For as long as their car seats would allow.
We could not afford to import Britax marathons in from the states... we didn't even have a car until three years ago, so unfortunately we were not able to get the best of the best - but we did the best with what we had available to us. Our kids turned at 3 and 2.5 respectively.
post #31 of 64
DD2 is 2.75 and she'll be RF at least until her 3rd birthday. i'm undecided if she will RF past that.
post #32 of 64
About 20 months for my son...a few months sooner for my daughter. Yeah...I know...bad mom.
post #33 of 64
My DD RFed until just after her 3rd bday and my son was just turned around on the weekend, at age 3yrs 3 months. He wasn't complaining and I would have kept him there longer, but DH was having a major problem with it even though I'd shown him the you tube crash test videos and spouted some research at him. He just wants his wife to 'be normal' for a change : ( However, I feel OK about it because I have had them RFing for way longer than almost everyone I know (except for people on here and c-s.org), and I think that's pretty good.
post #34 of 64
For those with tall and/or heavy kids there are the Swedish seats Britax Two-Way and britax Multi Tech with tall seat shell and 55 lbs rear facing limit. They also need little room in the car and fit well in a mid size cars. Most kids can easily and comfortably sit rear facing in these seats until age 5 or longer.

My son is 5.5 years, 47 inches tall and 45 lbs. He still rides RF in the Multi Tech and likes it. My daughter is 3 years and 3 months and still rear facing in her Britax Hi-Way (55 lbs rear facing limit). She's 38 inches tall and still has lots of room to grow.

All parents are different, I would personally never turn a child forward facing before age 4 at the earliest. All experiences and research show this to be 500% safer than forward facing. Real life experiences from Sweden, who have been rear facing kids since 1965 and where the recommendation is RF until age 4 or longer, show just how safe rear facing really is. Injury and fatality stats are a real pleasure to read.
post #35 of 64
I'm in England and have my ds (3 in FEbruary) RF in one of the biggest RF seats available (britax Multitech) He'll very likely make it to 5, likely to 6 and possibly even to 7 depending on his torso. so he'll go into a high back booster after that. likely a britax kidfix which we're using for his bigger sister atm who'll be old enough for a booster cushion then.
post #36 of 64
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Originally Posted by Adventuredad View Post
For those with tall and/or heavy kids there are the Swedish seats Britax Two-Way and britax Multi Tech with tall seat shell and 55 lbs rear facing limit. They also need little room in the car and fit well in a mid size cars. Most kids can easily and comfortably sit rear facing in these seats until age 5 or longer.

My son is 5.5 years, 47 inches tall and 45 lbs. He still rides RF in the Multi Tech and likes it. My daughter is 3 years and 3 months and still rear facing in her Britax Hi-Way (55 lbs rear facing limit). She's 38 inches tall and still has lots of room to grow.

All parents are different, I would personally never turn a child forward facing before age 4 at the earliest. All experiences and research show this to be 500% safer than forward facing. Real life experiences from Sweden, who have been rear facing kids since 1965 and where the recommendation is RF until age 4 or longer, show just how safe rear facing really is. Injury and fatality stats are a real pleasure to read.


why aren't i surprised to see you hear too? :P
post #37 of 64
As long as possible in her MR65. My 4.5 year old still fits rear facing, so I don't think we'll have any problems. Ultimately 4 is my goal, but if she still fits at 4 I don't think I'll rush to turn her. If she outgrows it at 3.5 I'm probably not going to run out an buy another seat for her to rear face in. Keyword: probably- so not 100% sure, I guess there is still a chance that I might LOL

I can't justify my children forward facing at 1, 2, or even 3 years old if it's still possible for them to rear face.
post #38 of 64
Dd was rf to 3.5yrs- pretty much as long as possible with the seat/car situation we had at the time (she outgrew the seat by weight, but was very close by height... and only a radian at the time would have kept her any longer, and at that only 3lbs which would have take her to 4yrs)

Ds I plan to keep rf until at least 4 with the current seats on the market.

-Angela
post #39 of 64
With my dd it was to a year old as I had never heard of rf past a year old and didn't hear about it until I was pg with ds1 a couple years later. With ds1 he was rf to the limits of his seat at about 20 months. He just turned 4 last week and is about 10 lbs and a several inches too tall for that Swedish seat so hearing kids can fit in it to age 6 makes me laugh. Our 19 month old is a skinny thing, but tall so I can see him fitting rf to 2.5 years or so for height.
post #40 of 64
DD1 was rf until 5 yrs 3 mo old. I plan on keeping DD2 rf for as long as possible as well.
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