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post #81 of 624
Lyndzie, I agree with Liz, no grimey bathrooms, I am soo pulling for you to conceive this time. It looks like a good trend on the BSL thread is happening (does that include me?? )

Liz, I am sorry about your treatment at the DR's office, you can definitely find better care than that. My NP told me that if I got preggo again I could have an early US, it would set my mind at ease. I will be soo lurking for the next few weeks to see. I hope you stik around, and I understand about the DDCs. I got too involved with both of mine and it was so hard when it didn't work out. I have a good feeling about you. Your numbers were great, and I just get that feeeling

YYYM, When will you test? I don't know if you already posted this.

My temp soared today. If I Od the timing would be perfect, and we will see if those psychics were correct I doubt FF will give me CHs because I started temping so late, ut I will know based on past charts. I don't know what I hope.
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Lyndzie, I agree with Liz, no grimey bathrooms, I am soo pulling for you to conceive this time. It looks like a good trend on the BSL thread is happening (does that include me?? )
That DEFINITELY includes you!
post #83 of 624
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I'm going to try the tactic of saving a dollar for every time I resist the urge to POA $tree test and getting myself something small as a pat on the back once I get my BFP (or AF shows, but I'm trying not to think negatively!)
cute idea! also, your insem plan sounds totally solid. and i totally think you should just go with that feeling if you've got it! that you have lots of happy sperm hanging around to catch that egg.

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needless to say, if this one sticks, we're finding a new care provider. I am accustomed to a higher standard of care.
WOW. i would complain about that to someone, honestly. wtf?? and i totally agree that you should switch and find someone awesome from the get-go. i switched my care at 20 weeks, and it would have been nice to just start out with the group i switched to!

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YYYM- I think the fact that the virus is gone is GREAT, especially given that you're still crying!!! Not that I want you to be sad, but perhaps the over-sensitivity is a sign.... ooh I hope I hope I hope!!!!
well, FF just gave me a freaking 7 pts for early pregnancy signs, so who knows? that's the lowest i've ever gotten on that thing!

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I usually just stick the (firmly sealed) tupperware cup down my pants and between my legs. That's where it's headed, so why not get the little guys feeling at home. LOL!


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YYYM, When will you test? I don't know if you already posted this.

My temp soared today. If I Od the timing would be perfect, and we will see if those psychics were correct I doubt FF will give me CHs because I started temping so late, ut I will know based on past charts. I don't know what I hope.
tomorrow maybe? not sure tbh... i go between thinking i really really might be to thinking i definitely am not. and i knew that temp was gonna shoot up there!

afm my temps are so freaking steady! i mean, usually my chart looks like a bunch of Ms glued together by this point. i really thought i had my answer today when i had a bunch of brownish pinkish spotting and mild cramps. 5 minutes later, i felt the flow start, and by the time i headed to the bathroom there was nothing. no spotting, either. i do often get a bunch of "false starts" just before AF, as well as this type of spotting, so i'm not super hopeful, but i'm glad i'm not out!
post #84 of 624
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That, my friend, is WHACK. Thumbs down!
and THIS is why I love you. i got a great laugh from that.. makes me reminiscent of the days that I was a fan of Kris Kross. HAHAHA!


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The thing about "always" picking it up and doing it at our home is that there is SO much stress involved surrounding GETTING it home. I know you're in PA... so maybe you understand the Schuylkill East, 676 East, 295 South, Walt Whitman, Ben Franklin, or any combination of the above at evening rush hour. It's SO stressful, in fact, that once I was convinced all the spermies had died in the hour and 15 it took me to get from his place in Northwest-ish Philly to my place in South Jersey. And although a grimey environment is probably no good for conception, neither is a stressed-out would-be mommy!!!

SO, that's the reason that we've deferred to doing it right away at his place... BUT!!! I've got to go with today's "feeling," methinks! Fingers crossed for an easy commute.

ETA: I usually just stick the (firmly sealed) tupperware cup down my pants and between my legs. That's where it's headed, so why not get the little guys feeling at home. LOL!
firstly, this ^ is a great image. HA! but of course, it's a good temp, so probably a great idea.

secondly, Yes, I have a small panic attack any time i have to even think about taking anything that ends in "76" at rush hour. (except 476, heading north from Media- that's not so bad by like 6 PM) anywho... I geet it now- i forgot about that part of your ride!! But i think if totally "Fresh" you could really get at LEAST a good hour out of them.



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WOW. i would complain about that to someone, honestly. wtf?? and i totally agree that you should switch and find someone awesome from the get-go. i switched my care at 20 weeks, and it would have been nice to just start out with the group i switched to!



well, FF just gave me a freaking 7 pts for early pregnancy signs, so who knows? that's the lowest i've ever gotten on that thing!
I love your chart. love it . also. i have only 8 pts now. so, take that all with well, not even a grain of salt. just ignore it really. the times i have had the post pts, I have (obviously) not been pg. last time, i might have had 41 or so.. but that didnt last. now I have EIGHT. I'd say you're coming in right where you should!

and, AFA the care, I just called another place that I've had my eye on, and I can already tell it will be BETTER. they were so nice even on the phone. I'd call and complain, but I dont know to whom I'd complain- it takes an act of congress (and 3 follow up calls from me) to get a midwife to call you back to even talk to someone!

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It looks like a good trend on the BSL thread is happening (does that include me?? )


My temp soared today. If I Od the timing would be perfect, and we will see if those psychics were correct I doubt FF will give me CHs because I started temping so late, ut I will know based on past charts. I don't know what I hope.
YUP, totally includes you. and hopefully, the rest of the gals here too. seriously. it would be my dream come true. i wouldnt need a DDC, just the BSL Grad thread. brings tears to my eyes thinking of it..... aaah in a perfect world
post #85 of 624
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8 pts huh? FF is so silly.

so hey, can i move you to BFPs now? =)
post #86 of 624
hmmm. I guess you can move me for now. feels an aweful lot like.. I dont know what...
weird

update: I called a local birth center.. and they are SO SO SO much nicer. they were able to get us in for a tour on the 14th of Dec, and we have our 10 wk appt already scheduled. they were SO nice and accomodating. and they said it's good that i called, bc they are closed up to June already. SO NICE. it was unreal. I didnt feel like they thought they were doing me a favor by just answering the phone. maybe third time's a charm? I went from a standard OB practice (fired) to a MW practice that does hosp birth (fired today), to a BC MW practice... this feels better so far.

I wish I had done this more actively while we were TTC, since I had reservations about it from the first appt. it would have been SO much better, and could have kept me from crying in my car in my work parking lot this morning (after the terrible experience this am), while on the phone with my DH who couldnt do anything except say he was sorry...
post #87 of 624
Interesting...
"Your body temperature dips a bit just before your ovary releases an egg. Then, 24 hours after the egg's release, your temperature rises and stays up for several days."

I didn't realize it was fully 24 hours after O that your temp rose. I know once it rises you have Oed...

LZP,
It makes all the difference in the world when you trust the person at the MW office. After all they are going to be sharing the most important part of your life with your for at least 9 months, they should be someone you can feel good about. I hate when they treat you like just one more pregnant animal in the assembly line. You deserve better!
post #88 of 624
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Interesting...
"Your body temperature dips a bit just before your ovary releases an egg. Then, 24 hours after the egg's release, your temperature rises and stays up for several days."

I didn't realize it was fully 24 hours after O that your temp rose. I know once it rises you have Oed...

LZP,
It makes all the difference in the world when you trust the person at the MW office. After all they are going to be sharing the most important part of your life with your for at least 9 months, they should be someone you can feel good about. I hate when they treat you like just one more pregnant animal in the assembly line. You deserve better!
its more of a within-but-not-longer-than 24 hours... rather than a set 24, that's more of the limit than the length. But it does help to explain some peoples charts.
post #89 of 624
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update: I called a local birth center.. and they are SO SO SO much nicer. they were able to get us in for a tour on the 14th of Dec, and we have our 10 wk appt already scheduled. they were SO nice and accomodating. and they said it's good that i called, bc they are closed up to June already. SO NICE. it was unreal. I didnt feel like they thought they were doing me a favor by just answering the phone. maybe third time's a charm? I went from a standard OB practice (fired) to a MW practice that does hosp birth (fired today), to a BC MW practice... this feels better so far.
I'm not sure where in PA you are... but have you considered/heard anything about Elmer in South Jersey? They are one of the few hospitals in the area that I can find that allow water birth (something I really am considering once it's time to make such decisions!) and have a sort of "birth center" like atmosphere (check out the pics of the rooms!). I'm going to take a tour as soon as I'm knocked up. Maybe sooner. Lol! There a birth center in DE that I'd love to be able to consider, but unfortunately I'm limited to NJ (or a state that will recognize our civil union) as far as giving birth. Don't want to take any chances of something happening to me and/or babe and her not being recognized as my spouse.

Glad you have already found somewhere you like better than your current practice!
post #90 of 624
We're in the far-ish western suburbs of Phila... so it's a bit of a haul for us to get to S.Jersey it'd be about an hour for us at least-- going through the city, and then over the WW would be a bit too nerve wracking! I'm not a great passenger. (surprise!!!)

this place is close-ish for us, although not as close as the "assembly line" place (great GREAT term, enigo- that's totally how it was!!!) but I'd rather drive for good care than have a 5 minute drive and spend my time in the waiting room being ignored and insulted.

The one in DE I have heard mixed reviews about- and that's pretty close for us too. But, I'd rather just do it in our home state if possible, YK? So, DE wont recog your CU? that's not right. Will PA? I doubt it, Harrisburg is so Red no matter what anyone says.

OK, time to go for DH's birthday dinner!!!!
to all tonight.
post #91 of 624
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Originally Posted by LZP View Post
hmmm. I guess you can move me for now. feels an aweful lot like.. I dont know what...
weird
i'm so happy that i got to have the honor of moving you to BFPs, especially this early in the month. maybe this will mean a good bout of threadkeeper's luck? i hope to be able to move others as well! hey i noticed you didn't put your BFP on your chart, maybe that's why your preggo points are so low? i wonder if your preggo points will go up with a BFP or not! i might put one in on mine just to see... will that jinx me?

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its more of a within-but-not-longer-than 24 hours... rather than a set 24, that's more of the limit than the length. But it does help to explain some peoples charts.
i've read that some people do have a delayed shift that may be longer than 24 hrs after O, and since we all differ so much i believe that, but how the heck does one really know? i mean, there's no way of knowing you O without a u/s (and sometimes those can be wrong!), so i guess if you just have your fertility signs dry up a few days before your temp shift you can guess that? on peeonastick.com she says that temping can miscalculate your O date by +/- 3 days which i never understood - i thought it was more accurate than that!

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I'm not a great passenger. (surprise!!!)
ha, me too! my drive in labor was 15 min long, at 6ish am, and i was like AAAAAH! i don't know what i'll do next time around. the MWs that caught DD (at a hospital) used to run a freestanding BC, which would be my top choice, but it closed. we have no more FSBCs, and the ones affiliated with hospitals suck and are kinda far anyway. HB isn't covered by insurance, but i'm planning to talk to some MWs while TTC to see which of them can work with me on barters. i mean seriously, it is going to cost me at least $2,000 more to HB if not $3,000, and that's... um... a lot! especially when you are living on one not-stellar income in an expensive area! but i decided i definitely want to HB this time and i don't want the choice to be based on money.

DH has been absolutely crabby lately, so instead of being grumpy about it i am being uber sweet to him. we've planned a nice dinner "date" at home after M goes to bed. i almost had him pick up some wine but i am SO full of snot that it started to just sound really unappetizing. so yeah, we plan to just relax and enjoy each other's company. he's been very stressed and i totally keep taking it personally, so we've been snappy with each other. we apologized today and we are having quesadillas and chimichangas for dinner! this should be pretty good.
post #92 of 624
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its more of a within-but-not-longer-than 24 hours... rather than a set 24, that's more of the limit than the length. But it does help to explain some peoples charts.
That's what I always thought. I always like to know I did all I could to get pregnant so I can properly obsess.

Man I have 43 preg points and I'm only 6dpo. FF must have made a mistake. Did you have a confirmed O?
post #93 of 624
the pregnancy points are silly, one month with no chance of pregnancy (i put in an insem that never happened) i had over 80 points and a lady who was preggers the same month had around 10...

the more symptoms you put in (dizziness, nausea, tender breasts, increased appetite, etc) the more points you will get. if you do not add in these symptoms or add in symptoms it deems to be the opposite of what a pregnancy chart shows, it will take away points.
post #94 of 624
LZP!!! I'm so excited and happy for you! And Yay! for the new midwives!

and welcome, barefootgirl.....

enigo

post #95 of 624
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! LZP!!!! LLLLL! ZZZZZ! PPPPPP!

PREGS PREGS PREGS PREEEEEEEGS!!!!

Sorry, just had to come out of lurkdom to say that. I'm SO happy for you I really want everyone on this thread to graduate, but ESPECIALLY the ones who don't have any kids yet. Y'know? Plus, you give me hope for my sis--you have both been trying for #1 for so long!



(and Lyndzies I'm really sorry you have to worry about bologna like whether or not a state will recognize your union with your dp. That is WHACKY. And hopefully, someday, all of our states will recognize it.)
post #96 of 624
And congrats to Colorbywords too!!! YIPEE!!!
post #97 of 624
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temp drop, BFN, period cramps.



it's not over till it's over........ but i feel like it's over.
post #98 of 624
YYYM It's not over till it's over is right. Hang in there
and I hope you guys had a great relaxing, and uneventful dinner

Liz Glad you found a new place. What a pain in the neck. I wish I was as brave as you ladies with the MW/BC/HB stuff. I'm such a scaredy cat :/

Lyndzies that everybody moves the heck outta your way!!

Enigo and maybe they DIDN'T make a mistake with all thos PPs!!

AFM- APPARENTLY I was allergic to the doxy they gave me prior to the HSG and after. I didn't realize it until I took the last dose last night. Excrutiating headaches all week that kept waking me up I thought they were from stress, along with the nausea, and severe stomach and back pain. Classic allergic reaction apparently. I've never been allergic to anything! I didn't even think to attribute it to the meds. Oh well. Now I know. Hope everyone has a great day
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(and Lyndzies I'm really sorry you have to worry about bologna like whether or not a state will recognize your union with your dp. That is WHACKY. And hopefully, someday, all of our states will recognize it.)
Thank you for saying so. Chances are, we wouldn't have any issue, but both DE and PA are DOMA-loving states that do not recognize out-of-state same-sex civil unions/marriage/domestic partnerships. And who wants to take chances when it comes to stuff that important, YK?

I'm sure we'll find something just fine in our neck of the woods (but yeah, when you live in a tri-state region, it does stink being limited). As an aside (but related) the reason we have to have DP adopt future kiddo is because other states don't have to recognize our CU or us putting her on kiddo's birth certificate (which we could do, in NJ, because we have the CU and any children born to me can be considered hers automatically). So if we travel somewhere else in the future as a family, and something happened to me, another state wouldn't have to recognize her as the parent if she hadn't legally adopted. Plus it'll be good to have KD out of the parent picture entirely so that can never bite us in the ass.

All a bunch of BS, but of course we'll do whatever we need to do to protect our family. Which is why we feel so lucky to have such an amazing KD that we trust so deeply. Otherwise it would have been sperm-cicles for us! Lol.

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temp drop, BFN, period cramps.



it's not over till it's over........ but i feel like it's over.
Boooooo! I hope you're wrong, and that AF steers clear.

AFM - insem went okay yesterday. It was nice doing it at home. I laid there for about 5-10 minutes, but then everything started leaking out! I remember this happening before when I did it at home, after the sample had liquefied (when I do it right away, it's more viscous and stays put better). So I freaked and put an Instead Cup in. I'm so neurotic!

Going to try to do it at home again after work, tonight... and then I wait.

I don't have as much EWCM as usual... I hope O isn't late this month. That would be just my freaking luck.
post #100 of 624
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temp drop, BFN, period cramps.



it's not over till it's over........ but i feel like it's over.
NO no no no no. I refuse to believe. please stop temping. just for tomorrow... ? I think that maybe if you get it out of your head that it's "lower" then you could still send good vibes to your uterus? am i talking crazy talk? maybe. but still... dont count yourself out- positive vibes, positive vibes!!!

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AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! LZP!!!! LLLLL! ZZZZZ! PPPPPP!

PREGS PREGS PREGS PREEEEEEEGS!!!!

Sorry, just had to come out of lurkdom to say that. I'm SO happy for you I really want everyone on this thread to graduate, but ESPECIALLY the ones who don't have any kids yet. Y'know? Plus, you give me hope for my sis--you have both been trying for #1 for so long!
I have so much hope for Tear, probably more than I ever had for myself, really. I know she's not far behind. I KNOW IT. much to you for coming out of lurkdom for little ol' me.

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hey i noticed you didn't put your BFP on your chart, maybe that's why your preggo points are so low? i wonder if your preggo points will go up with a BFP or not! i might put one in on mine just to see... will that jinx me?


.......

ha, me too! my drive in labor was 15 min long, at 6ish am, and i was like AAAAAH! i don't know what i'll do next time around. the MWs that caught DD (at a hospital) used to run a freestanding BC, which would be my top choice, but it closed. we have no more FSBCs, and the ones affiliated with hospitals suck and are kinda far anyway. HB isn't covered by insurance, but i'm planning to talk to some MWs while TTC to see which of them can work with me on barters. i mean seriously, it is going to cost me at least $2,000 more to HB if not $3,000, and that's... um... a lot! especially when you are living on one not-stellar income in an expensive area! but i decided i definitely want to HB this time and i don't want the choice to be based on money.

DH has been absolutely crabby lately, so instead of being grumpy about it i am being uber sweet to him. we've planned a nice dinner "date" at home after M goes to bed. i almost had him pick up some wine but i am SO full of snot that it started to just sound really unappetizing. so yeah, we plan to just relax and enjoy each other's company. he's been very stressed and i totally keep taking it personally, so we've been snappy with each other. we apologized today and we are having quesadillas and chimichangas for dinner! this should be pretty good.
sorry DH has been a crabapple. but tis the season. lots of stress, and lots of apples. I am so glad that you two were going to have a nice din din together- how did it go? Wine probably would have been bad for a stuffy nose. but I will admit, I had about 3 glasses of red wine on TGiving (9DPO), and one on Friday, and one on Saturday (and even one on Sunday, after I found out to calm down a bit... breathing exercises werent working.. ) my sister said it was good, and OK, so I did it. I'll blame her.
ETA: I do have the +HPTs in there, but I just dont have them showing in my homepage settings. i still have 8 pts. Like Mae said, I think it's all a crap shoot, depending on how many symptoms, real or phantom, you enter on the corresponding days to the FF charts in their database.
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I wish I was as brave as you ladies with the MW/BC/HB stuff. I'm such a scaredy cat :/

AFM- APPARENTLY I was allergic to the doxy they gave me prior to the HSG and after. I didn't realize it until I took the last dose last night. Excrutiating headaches all week that kept waking me up I thought they were from stress, along with the nausea, and severe stomach and back pain. Classic allergic reaction apparently. I've never been allergic to anything! I didn't even think to attribute it to the meds. Oh well. Now I know. Hope everyone has a great day
feel better! that's not good at all. I hope it's all out of your system by around CD18 or so!!! you usually O around CD 19-20 ish, right?

regarding the MW- I am too chicken to go HB for the first one, but once I sat with an OB, with all my questions, concerns for a natural birth, etc... i KNEW it was not the right thing for me. He looked at me like I had two heads when I asked if i could have intermittent monitoring instead of constant, and if i'd be able to walk around during labor... that made me scared. I think what scares me the most is any practitioner that doesnt listen to our needs and desires for one of the most important life events. so, if you have an OB that you like, respects your wishes, and will do what's on YOUR plan, and not his/hers, then you're not a scaredy cat at all!!! it's whatever works best for each of us... one choice isnt better than the other, and especially not more brave. just different.


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AFM - insem went okay yesterday. It was nice doing it at home. I laid there for about 5-10 minutes, but then everything started leaking out! I remember this happening before when I did it at home, after the sample had liquefied (when I do it right away, it's more viscous and stays put better). So I freaked and put an Instead Cup in. I'm so neurotic!

Going to try to do it at home again after work, tonight... and then I wait.

I don't have as much EWCM as usual... I hope O isn't late this month. That would be just my freaking luck.
I hope you get some more EW today...! but, even if it shows tomorrow, that will be good, to keep it alive longer

re the leaking out- (TMI warning) right after the "insemination" I put a tissue under the opening- sort of balled up, while I am on my back with my hips raised. I have done it since the beginning. the feeling of it running down my uhh... crack makes me wanna hurl. so, the tissue keeps it all in the right area, and those that get out from leakage might find their way back in with the help of gravity, and a paper dam on the other side. it really seems to help. If i were to use instead, after like 20-30 minutes, i might "scoop" up what I could from the outside, and then put it in... this TTC business is all so dainty and polite.

AFM, still hanging out... I want to have faith in my body.. but.... well ya know. thank you all so much for letting me chill here till I'm comfortable to venture out into that other world that seemed like forbidden territory for so long....
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