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post #101 of 476
Sorry been missing lately. Lot of stress. Can we talk about things that effect O? All I can remember is stress from the book, if not coming off hormone bc. I missed a few temps at the start, and then only missed the other day. The open circle is from an early temp. This is my 6th cycle. My O pattern has gone-
d24,d20,d15,d18 and now I'm on d22 and no O yet. All I can think of is that I'm running again and I'm stressed. I don't know what else would throw off O. Is it normal to have such diff days for O time frame each month? My cycle has gone from 36d longest (1st one after mc) to 28d shortest.
post #102 of 476
bbrandonsmom: chart link, please?
post #103 of 476
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My O pattern has gone-
d24,d20,d15,d18 and now I'm on d22 and no O yet. All I can think of is that I'm running again and I'm stressed. I don't know what else would throw off O. Is it normal to have such diff days for O time frame each month? My cycle has gone from 36d longest (1st one after mc) to 28d shortest.
My average O from all of my charts going to back to 2002 is cd28, I believe, but I have Oed as early as cd11 (albeit after an anov cycle) and as late as cd45 (first PP cycle, I think). TCOYF talks about how O day can vary. It could be the running or the stress or it could just be within your normal window for O. You haven't past your latest O yet.
post #104 of 476
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Yay, Annie8126!
post #105 of 476
Pretty sure this is CD1. This has been the shortest lp I've ever had. Could my lp be shorter because my son is nursing more at that time? He had a cold. I don't really care, since I'm not ttcing, just curious.
post #106 of 476
GriffsKat: With your missing temps on CD 39 & 40, you really can't pinpoint O. I think CD 37 is another likely O date. How long are you typical LPs?
post #107 of 476
Typically 12 days.
post #108 of 476
Woohoo, in the clear tonight! 1 cycle down

Do you ladies continue temping through your LP? The only reason I could think to continue is to not break the routine, otherwise I've already gotten a confirmed O. I'm not sure how long my LP is at this point in time (the cycles I have charted I have a few at 10 and some at 12).

Also, is it worth it to actually have a subscription to FF? My VP preview ended and I have 2 days left to get the lower price. I'm sure that the preview will come up again I was just curious if anyone thought it was worth the cost.
post #109 of 476
I'm starting to think I may need a new thermometer. My temps are always really low, like in the 96's (I've been pre O the whole time I've been charting), and DP took his temperature when he wasn't feeling good the other day and it was 97 something. I'm thinking I should wait until this cycle ends to start using a new thermometer so that I don't mess up the pattern I've had going. Am I being too anal??
post #110 of 476
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I'm starting to think I may need a new thermometer. My temps are always really low, like in the 96's (I've been pre O the whole time I've been charting), and DP took his temperature when he wasn't feeling good the other day and it was 97 something. I'm thinking I should wait until this cycle ends to start using a new thermometer so that I don't mess up the pattern I've had going. Am I being too anal??
I would probably stick with it for the rest of the cycle too, as long as it's just low and not erratic or something. It might not be calibrated right anymore but as long as the numbers are relative to each other it shouldn't make much difference. Did you try taking your temp mid-day? It should be 98.6 or so I'd guess... it would give you an idea how far off it is.

I'm wondering about the paid FF subscription too, mine is ending. I don't think I need the extras but I'm interested to hear what features people are finding useful.

I might have O'd... hard to tell since my chart looks like a mountain range. Apparently I need to temp at exactly the same time every day.
post #111 of 476
turnqia - good luck whatevering!

WWC and annie - yay for O!

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I'm starting to think I may need a new thermometer. My temps are always really low, like in the 96's (I've been pre O the whole time I've been charting), and DP took his temperature when he wasn't feeling good the other day and it was 97 something. I'm thinking I should wait until this cycle ends to start using a new thermometer so that I don't mess up the pattern I've had going. Am I being too anal??
Perhaps you just have a lower temp than your hubby. 96's are a little low but not out of the normal range. Especially I think temps can be lower while bfing.

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Do you ladies continue temping through your LP? The only reason I could think to continue is to not break the routine, otherwise I've already gotten a confirmed O. I'm not sure how long my LP is at this point in time (the cycles I have charted I have a few at 10 and some at 12).
I can think of a couple other reasons. 1) To obsess about your temps going triphasic or implantation dips and what not. Not that any of us would EVER do that of course or 2) to see the dip that often happens the day of or before your period so you know when to expect it. Otherwise, no it's not really necessary to continue, as long as you have a nice clear thermal shift.

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Could my lp be shorter because my son is nursing more at that time? He had a cold. I don't really care, since I'm not ttcing, just curious.
I don't have any proof, and I didn't look at your chart (sorry) but this has been my experience. My son was sick and nursing constantly one cycle and my LP was only 8 days. Typically it's 11-13. This could also help explain why many women have shorter LPs when their cycles first return PP - their babies are nursing more frequently. Just a hypothesis.

AFM, 6 dpo and boobs hurting like crazy. My chart.
post #112 of 476
Huh, that's weird. I just clicked on my own chart link to make sure it worked, and the first chart is mine, but the other two are NOT! Very strange.

Edit: nevermind, they are mine. Just the VIP trial somehow messed them up. It cut three days off the beginning of last cycle. I was like...um...this looks familiar...but I know those dates are not right, and I never have that short/light of an AF! stupid FF
post #113 of 476
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I can think of a couple other reasons. 1) To obsess about your temps going triphasic or implantation dips and what not. Not that any of us would EVER do that of course or 2) to see the dip that often happens the day of or before your period so you know when to expect it. Otherwise, no it's not really necessary to continue, as long as you have a nice clear thermal shift.

My chart.
If I had a reason to obsess I would most definitely keep temping.
post #114 of 476
For me, I like seeing the LP because a/ I like seeing the temp drop at the end, as funny as it may sound- it's so exciting to see it all and be like hey-- my body works! And b/ even though we're technically CTA right now, soon we won't be, and I'm liking the idea of keeping track of what's happening in that phase, so that I'll be able to tell changes, or see if anything looks like it might need correcting before getting pregnant.
post #115 of 476
I temp straight through the whole cycle. I never take a break unless I forgot. I do this because I have hypothyroid and the best indicator that it's off is day 2-5 in my cycle, if the temps are below 98.0 I need to let my doctor know so I can increase my meds. I got an increase this month and just started so I will wait until next cycle to see if I need an increase.

My AF came today! I love that I knew because of the dip in my temps. So I was right, my cycles are now 29 days. Before I got pregnant they were 24 with really short LP's (it's a miracle I got pregnant, they were only 9 or so days). It seemed pregnancy fixed that.
post #116 of 476
I like to take a break from temping during my lp and through . I can see how it might be nice to see that temp dip indicating is coming in a day or two but you could see that if you just temped the day before you expected . The only other reason I can think of to temp during your lp is if you are planning to TTC eventually and want to know that things are ok and so you can compare lp temps for pg signs. I don't know if temps can tell you anything about a lpd. The indicators I've read for that are lps shorter than 10 days and/or several days of spotting before arrives.

I've never had the non-VIP FF membership so I don't know everything that would be lost from not having it. I don't know the cost for the VIP membership now, either, so I can't say if it's worth it. I know you don't get access to the message boards and chat room but I only find those useful while ttc. There aren't any sections for people who are tta.

MamaGwynn ~ Unless you are post-O, you should continue with the same thermometer for the current cycle. 96 degree temps are more indicative of something like hypothyroid (if a problem at all) rather than a broken thermometer. If the thermometer registers the same temp all the time or your temps seem very erratic, then you might need a new one.
post #117 of 476
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The only other reason I can think of to temp during your lp is if you are planning to TTC eventually and want to know that things are ok and so you can compare lp temps for pg signs. I don't know if temps can tell you anything about a lpd. The indicators I've read for that are lps shorter than 10 days and/or several days of spotting before arrives.
I believe temps dipping below the coverline too often can indicate low post-o progesterone.
post #118 of 476
I don't use the VP Fertility Friend. I use the basic to compare with my own charting. I chart using Microsoft Excel. This way I can alter the chart or add my own symptoms etc. The fertility friend one is a great backup and that way I can make sure I marked the right day for O.
post #119 of 476
When do you start measuring your LP? From the day of the temp rise - or the day you ovulated? I know this has been asked before, but I just dont remember......
post #120 of 476
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When do you start measuring your LP? From the day of the temp rise - or the day you ovulated? I know this has been asked before, but I just dont remember......
Day 1 of your lp is the first day of the temp rise, the day after O.

I hadn't thought about the temp dipping below the CL several times. TCOYF says it's ok for the temp to drop to or below the CL during your lp once you've had a clear and sustained thermal sift but not how many times. If my temp dropped several times, I'd probably question if I actually Oed. Low post-O progesterone also results in short lps and spotting so I don't know that it's necessary to temp to pick up on that. KWIM?
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