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post #161 of 476
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Originally Posted by AnnieA View Post
FF is probably giving you crosshairs because of your CP.
Oh, good point! I don't enter CP in FF b/c it seems to mess up their interpretation every time. Even when it doesn't make any sense.
post #162 of 476
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
BFS ~ My temps started to look like they were going triphasic for a bit last cycle. That's why I (and TCOYF) say they aren't really triphasic unless they stay up til at least 18dpo, pg time.
Is that in the new edition of TCOYF? I don't remember reading that (I have the older edition). I always wonder if there is an actual definition of "triphasic" but the definition you just said sounds a little too convenient. But for example, I would call my temps officially triphasic today because I have three above the rest of my post-O temps, but FF did not give me this "triphasic alert" I have heard about (I have the VIP trial, today's the last day). So that might just be my own strange definition. Here's my chart.

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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
Here's my chart:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ab1c6
If this makes sense to anyone, can you explain to me why I have crosshairs? Thanks
Um...no...sorry. I think FF may be focusing on that dip? But I really can't see any reason why they should give you crosshairs, I agree with you, no O yet.

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Originally Posted by turnquia View Post
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c0fa4

Do the crosshairs seem right?
Not to me. I think the last temp you have there could be O but you will have to wait and see.

MW, I don't know about the temp times. I guess all I can say is, crazy FF?
post #163 of 476
Thread Starter 
Marlet: I will add you to the front page! Welcome back!

AFM: Got my blood results back today. Everything looks normal...iron levels, hormone levels, thyroid, insulin resistance. So I guess that is a relief...I think. I"ll just have to keep muddling through on my own, trying to regulate my cycles! Though I'm now taking cod liver oil everyday, and I really hope that helps, too. And I am still eating cheese, butter, meat, and coconut oil like it is going out of style! Ok, not really. But for me, coming from having an eating disorder and freaking out if I ate 10 grams of fat in a day, to having two full servings of dairy a day, in addition to oil, nuts, and meat, is immense, and it seems like a lot!

On CD 48, 7 DPO. My temps seem to be staying kind of low, although def. above my CL. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/277407 I'm telling myself that there is no chance that I am pregnant, with those temps...
post #164 of 476
Thread Starter 
Also: I am thinking of deleting the "graduates: no longer CTA" list because honestly, it is super hard to keep track of why people left, and it doesn't seem necessary to have that list...any objections?
post #165 of 476
Morning Ladies!

BFS : Crossing my fingers for you

WWC: My cycles used to be between 35-40 days, since going low(er) carb my cycles now run between 29-31 days. I couldn't believe it when I had a 29 day cycle last month.

AFM - This acronym makes total sense.. 7 dpo, experienced some spotting last night which is strange. I'm not sure how long my LP is so it's a surprise this cycle.

We're completely buried here in northern Michigan, we were an hour late this morning for work after getting stuck in the middle of the road in the snow... Not even five minutes from home. Crazy. It's still snowing.

B. is so excited about all of the snow, I think we might lose her if she goes out to play in it though
post #166 of 476
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
I remember all the but not the name. Has it been long enough for you to have had a baby?! Congrats and welcome back.
Yes and no. DD3 was born at 36w3d...super early for me.

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Originally Posted by wholewheatchick View Post
Marlet: I will add you to the front page! Welcome back!
No need to add me yet. My cycles don't return til around 13 months pp. I will come hang out here though if ya'll don't mind. Get in the habit.
post #167 of 476
Marlet, curiosity got the best of me and I had to go search old threads to figure out who you "used" to be!

I was also looking to find TexasPeach's old threads when she got pregnant with Wyatt. I recall that she attributed it to DTD twice in one day with W/D both times. DH and I did that this cycle on CD 11. I'm on CD 17 though and I think I O'ed yesterday. So I found her old threads and her issue was she did that on CD 15 and also O'ed on CD 15. So I don't think there is any chance of an "oops" for me this cycle.

My chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1f0436
post #168 of 476
I'm here. I am not really charting because I haven't had any mucus yet after my DD was born. She's 8 month today so hopefully I don't ovulate for a while still. *crosses fingers*
post #169 of 476
MM-I think you're right and the thought did occure to me briefly. I think maybe something is wrong w/ therm? 3 days of same temp-
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28fb6b
but, yesterday my cf started drying up, though I did put down ccf just because I had some in the a.m. By afternoon there was nothing. Temp wise, w/ no change, will have to see what tomorrow says. This is very frustrating. I'm trying to look ahead to Feb/Mrch to plan some things, and don't want af to interfere. I guess I could do some type of estimate, but that doesn't really seem helpful, since O could be days off and mess things up. I'm looking at marathons, and don't really want to be running w/ af at all. I also have friends coming in May-even further away-but would like to not have to worry about af then either. Makes me want to go on the pill just for some regularity, but I don't want to do hormones. Any suggestions?
post #170 of 476
Ok, so I posted awhile back in the main board-but is everyone here in a relationship? Do women chart while not in one? Do they do nothing, or use hormones?
post #171 of 476
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Originally Posted by bbrandonsmom View Post
Ok, so I posted awhile back in the main board-but is everyone here in a relationship? Do women chart while not in one? Do they do nothing, or use hormones?
I've been married for 5.5 years now. I plan on teaching B. to chart and use FAM. My mother didn't think it was important to relay to me all of the negative side effects she experienced on hormonal birth control. We had the fun experience of finding out how depressed hormones make me during our first year of marriage.. prior to marriage I just ignored it all. I'm hoping to give B. the information she needs to be able to chart if she chooses to, and also the knowledge of how hormones affected me so that she isn't flying blind.
post #172 of 476
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Originally Posted by bbrandonsmom View Post
Ok, so I posted awhile back in the main board-but is everyone here in a relationship? Do women chart while not in one? Do they do nothing, or use hormones?
A few of my friends who are not in a serious relationship with anyone are doing the Creighton Method. My other friend will be continuing to use FAM, even when her DH is deployed for who knows how long. All my other friends are on some form of hormonal BC.
post #173 of 476
Well I changed the setting in FF but it didn't affect the crosshairs it gave me... are there any other charting sites that give you more settings or some manual controls so you can adjust it?

WWC - on the "graduates" section thing, I agree. I've thought a few times that it made no sense to have that section
post #174 of 476
Smyling ~ I think FF gave you crosshairs that day because of the ewcf with spotting and the CP info. Mid-cycle, pre-O spotting is considered very fertile so that would be your peak day, so far. I agree, though, that your temps don't really confirm it. I'll have to go back and read what TCOYF says about a slow rise to see if your temps show O. They are definitely going up. Maybe cd15 was O. Ovusoft has more options for confirming O.

turnquia ~ What Shannon said. Maybe cd15 was O but you need to more high tmeps to confirm it.

Shannon ~ The first temps from my last cycle were taken at odd times so they should be open circles. It seems really bizarre that the majority of my temps for this cycle were taken between 6 and 6:30 and only one was taken at 5 something but the 5-something temp is a closed circle and all the others are open. It'll probably change as I get more temps in but it's annoying me right now.

BFS ~ I don't think your temps show a triphasic pattern yet. You should use the same rules as for O, which is three high temps above a 2nd CL, so to speak. After 6dpo, your 2nd CL would be 98.1 and you don't have 3 temps above that. Also, I think FF may not start looking for pg signs like triphasic temps and implantation spotting until after 7dpo. I'll look up again what TCOYF says about triphasic temps. I know it says that all pg charts would probably show a triphasic temp pattern. I have an older edition, I'm guessing. I bought it back in 2002.

WWC ~ Your temps look good to me. There's no specific range that your temps should be to indicate a pg. Plus, you aren't past the implantation stage when your progesterone would increase more and potentially cause higher temps. I wouldn't look for pg signs in your temps until after 9dpo.

Annie ~ I'd say possibly cd16 O for you. That would mean you just made the cut-off for possible pg from sex on cd11.

Marlet ~ That makes sense then. Glad everything turned out ok. 36w is a bit early but too dangerously so, right?

I continue to chart while my dh is deployed. Otherwise, I would never know when to expect . If I had known when I was young and single what I know now, I probably would've charted, again because my cycles were wacky and I never knew when to expect . Plus, I just find it all so fascinating I don't think I could not chart.

OK, I have to tell you all a funny. A few weeks ago before dh was home he wrote me a letter about how much he wanted to GIO when he got home. I'm a prude when it comes to that sort of stuff. I don't like feeling like I'm expected to perform, so to speak, and I don't like to talk about it. I just want it to happen. So, I wrote him back telling him that, so I thought. He's been home for 2 days now after being gone for 7 months (plus, I don't think we dtd right before he left because I was pg and sick) and he hasn't tried a thing. I asked him today what the deal was. He said he was waiting for me because I told him I would let him know when I was ready. That's not what I meant at all. I just meant I didn't want the pressure of feeling like he expected it and I didn't want to talk about it. Big doofus!
post #175 of 476
Smyling-- I agree that it's probably a CM CP combination that triggered FF, but again- if It were me, I wouldn't count what you have there as a definitive O. Not while TTA.


I'm married, and FAM is the only thing we've ever used, other than condoms at the right time. Besides not liking the idea of tricking my body with hormones.... my mother got pregnant 4 times while on the pill, my aunt got pregnant with fraternal twins on the pill, and I'm fairly sure my sister had an oops while on the pill as well. I've come to the conclusion it's not reliable in my family.

ETA: I'm on CD 12 today, all seems normal, but yesterday and day before I had temp spikes, out of nowhere. I've never noticed this on any of my previous charts, and I don't think I was sick these days. Any ideas what it could be? It back to normal today, and all were temped at the same time. My cycles are 27-28 days like clockwork, and I've noticed that if anything, my LP seems to be a bit short, not long. I'm stumped, and curious.

Chart...
post #176 of 476
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
Marlet ~ That makes sense then. Glad everything turned out ok. 36w is a bit early but too dangerously so, right?
Right. 36 weeks was my earliest "safe" point. I knew she was a girl so I was ok with that (lung maturity). If I hadn't known gender or if she had been a he my earliest would have been 37 weeks. I *knew* I'd go early this time around. Barely made my cut off.

Alright. I'm officially declaring I have an issue with . The fact that so many of you *know* me from them or had to go through my past threads because they put it on the tip of your tounge so to speak is a hint. I need smilie rehab.
post #177 of 476
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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post

eirual: Chart link?
I just keep a paper chart.

Speaking of which, I have finally found a storage sol'n for my chart and thermometre that works for me. I put two push-pins into the side of my nightside table. I hooked a clamp to my chart papers and hooked it on one pin and taped a twist tie to the end of my thermometre and hooked it on the other pin. It's worked like a charm so far!
post #178 of 476
Sooooo - I'm 8dpo and I am wondering why my boobs aren't hurting! LOL

I have never officially charted before, but normally my boobs always tell me that either AF is due soon or its about time to POAS.......

My boobs didn't hurt before my first PPAF and now they feel like........nothing! And I am even nursing!!!

Anyways, just wondering if anyone has any idea why this might be? Just the "new me" so to speak, or do breasts become tender even MORE dpo? I am 'pretty sure' I have a decently long LP, but this is just a hunch from my previous charting fiasco - LOL
post #179 of 476
JJ- Did you drink any alcohol that night? Turn the heater up higher than usual? Take any meds you don't usually? Maybe something like that caused your temp to jump up. At least your cf is quite clear.


MM- I really don't have faith in LAM being effective eating such an extravagant diet that we all have. I just know way too many people who are pregnant again (unexpectedly) a few months PP. And I always go from a BIP of sticky to a day or two of creamy, then BAM! EWCF for 3-4 days. So creamy CF makes me nervous enough to chart so soon!

AFM:CP question-
I've really been perplexed as to why my cervix is always so high when I have sticky CF. I always check it at night. I started checking it in the mornings also, and it's been low every time, and high again that night. Could doing kegels all day effect this? Which should I go with?
post #180 of 476
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Originally Posted by bicyclingbethany View Post
AFM:CP question-
I've really been perplexed as to why my cervix is always so high when I have sticky CF. I always check it at night. I started checking it in the mornings also, and it's been low every time, and high again that night. Could doing kegels all day effect this? Which should I go with?
I think I read in TCOYF that the cervix moves higher through the day. That would explain why it's low in the morning and high at night. I'd stick with checking it in the morning. When your are fertile, it should be high even then.
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