December Queer Conceptions: My BFP would be the greatest gift this season! - Page 2

[katharinerose]

Lyndzies: If you're using fresh, I'd say you're totally good. Everything I've read says that in general, you want the swimmers in place and ready to go when the egg is released, and they'll live happily for at least 3 and up to 5 days.

AFU: Well, just ordered the last of our frozen stock. There were only 4 vials left, so we're going for broke to avoid another year's storage fee. If this doesn't work, we're hoping that our KD will be willing to help us with the Biotranz thing... Of course, he has a GF of well over a year now, which he didn't when he agreed to donate, so that might complicate things. Also, he doesn't have a working phone number at the moment, so communication is by e-mail.

I'm just hoping that this works. Also, I'm hoping I don't O before the tank gets here on Friday!

[mkpgoddess]

Quietly driving myself batty...

...so our tank is supposed to be shipped out today and I'm impatiently waiting for the tracking information (they'll send that, right? what if they forget? what if they forget to send the tank?). We're supposed to get it on Thursday (*looks down at self* don't ovulate before then, please) and ovulation is somewhere over the weekend (timing...what if we get it wrong? what if I'm not even home? what if it doesn't work? what if it WORKS?).

Ahem....sorry. The problem with the two week chunk before ovulating and the two week chunk afterwards, is that you get to think waaaaaay too much.

Lyndzies - I agree with PP, your timing actually sounds rather fantastic. GL to you!!!!

Katherinerose - looks like we'll be insemming around the same time!

How goes it for everyone else????

[FtMPapa]

Lyndzies - it sounds A-Ok to me! I know a kiddo who was conceived following a poorly timed insem that was necessarily early due to travel - the insem was nearly 8 days before O...she's a girl.

KatharineRose - Way to put all your sperm in one basket! GO FOR IT!!!!


AFM - uh, nothing. The clinic called. Even in the LP, daily calls from the clinic. . .astonishing. They didn't get all of our bloodwork, combination of lab and clerical errors and misunderstandings. It's really hard to get motivated to follow up on it during the LP, so I e-mailed Donor Boy to get his fixed, and I had them add the new tests to my lab order for my beta on Monday. I guess with this clinic, I should actually show up for my Beta. I stood up my old clinic all the time, I would just call them and say "Yup, bleeding, nope, not coming in for a beta."

I've got no symptoms worth noting, anything I've got can be explained by mild OHSS from having six follicles, and I'm bored. When can I pee on something? How soon is too soon? Today is 8 DPO. Maybe I'll start peeing on 10 DPO.

[katharinerose]

Originally Posted by FtMPapa

I've got no symptoms worth noting, anything I've got can be explained by mild OHSS from having six follicles, and I'm bored. When can I pee on something? How soon is too soon? Today is 8 DPO. Maybe I'll start peeing on 10 DPO.

I give you the Magic 8 Ball pee stick - guaranteed results!

:: waits for Papa ::

Magic 8 Ball says . . . "try again later." Well, it's a result...

[FtMPapa]

Originally Posted by katharinerose

I give you the Magic 8 Ball pee stick - guaranteed results!

:: waits for Papa ::

Magic 8 Ball says . . . "try again later." Well, it's a result...

That's awesome.

We should sell those!!!!!

I am so proud of myself - tomorrow is 9 DPO and I don't have a test in the house. Except for the positive one that was found in the bottom of the kitchen garbage, since it apparently escaped from the bag, after I decided to rid myself of the many, many sticks I peed on last month.

I can't pee on anything until 10 DPO. Will our hero make it all the way to the beta on Monday? Time will tell.....it would be a first for me. In the past, I have had the occasional cycle where I didn't pee on anything or get a beta, because I knew it was pointless.

Maybe I'll hold out until that morning. We'll see.

[sunwillshine]

Thanks to everyone for the votes of confidence on timing. I'm thinking maybe it won't be so bad after all, as well. And I know you can't put much stock in only 3 temps, but check out the pattern so far compared to my PG cycle! If it continues this way, maybe my body is giving me an early Xmas present and Oing early (no OPKs this month, so can't be sure, obv. Will have to wait and see what temps do!). Lol. You know I just HAVE to obsess about something, even in my attempts not to obsess by not being a temping-nazi.

Papa - Proud of you for staying away from the pee sticks. Makes it easier when they're not in the house, for sure. This month, since money is tight around the holidays, I'm going to try the tactic of saving a dollar for every time I resist the urge to POA $tree test and getting myself something small as a pat on the back once I get my BFP (or AF shows, but I'm trying not to think negatively!).

mkpgoddess - fingers crossed that your timing will be JUST RIGHT! You're supposed to get it tomorrow, yes? Have/are you POA OPK?

katharinerose - I think that four tries this cycle will be exactly what's needed to do the trick! !!!!!

AFM - insem #2 after work today. I usually do it at KD's house, but I think that, this time, I'm going to pick it up and make the mad dash home (if traffic in that direction doesn't look too crazy) so I can do it in the comfort of my bedroom for once, chill for 20-30 minutes before using the Instead Cup, and meditate a bit. Those last bits are hard to do in his grime-y bathroom. I'll still have tomorrow to do it the "right then and there" way, and am just feeling like the plan for today is the right one for some reason. Plus, I find waiting 30 minutes or so is actually a bit better in terms of the stuff liquefying. Anyone else have this experience with freshies?

[cejae]

Hi all,

Just checking in after being MIA for a while. I'm on what I think is the last of our IUIs (I might have the stomach for one more). Currently 10dpo. Tested this morning and got a BFN. No surprise there. We'll see, but I'm not holding out hope. My guess is that we'll probably do a laproscopy to remove the endometrioma from my right ovary and then move on to IVF.

Have any of you self financed IVF? We have enough money in our saving to cover it, but I'm wary of dipping into that. We have quite a bit of equity in our house (and a nice fixed rate low interest mortgage) and I was thinking about borrowing against that as we can easily afford the few hundred a month it would take to pay that off w/out ravaging our savings or retirement. Have I mentioned that when I get anxious I talk about money rather than emotions? It's an issue

On a happier note two nights ago I dreamed (for the first time in 11 cycles of trying!) that I was pregnant. I could feel my uterus like a hard round ball in my tummy (yes, I know that's not the way it feels for real). And then last night I dreamed that I got a BFP. Both great dreams.

Papa, I've got my fingers crossed for you!!

Lyndzies, my bff insemed with frozen sperm at about 12 noon when she saw a surge that morning (after not ovulating in the entire year she had been tracking). And she ended up with twins. So this whole timing thing is not an exact science. Everything I have ever read would have said that 4 hours post surge is way too early for frozen sperm! So don't stress...(easier said than done).

[mkpgoddess]

Lyndzies - girl, if something is telling you to take the sperm home and do your own thing there, then do it. The last time we insemmed, we were set to do the traditional 12/24 post pos OPK and something told me to wait when 24 hrs showed up. Lo and behold, we got preg. Who knows if it was because I decided to wait, but I'm a firm believer in listening to these things.

Yes, we're POA OPK's, rather obsessively. I have the internet cheapies by the several dozen, plus a box of the digi OPK's to reinforce the positive whenever it shows up. LOL - we are such dorks. DW got a miner's headlight to make the navigating easier and we were so excited that it came in the mail yesterday!

Cejae - actually, your uterus CAN feel like a round hard ball....here's to hoping that those dreams were prophetic and trying to tell you something!!

Papa - way to hold out!!! I'm hoping I have even a fraction of your patience...

[cejae]

mkpgoddess, I hope your characterization of dreams as prophetic is true. Unfortunately the ball in my stomach was more a marble protruding from abdomen. My guess is that in real life that would signal a bit of a problem. But then I'm that *that* kind of doctor...

[katharinerose]

Lyndzies: Home in bed sounds much more comfortable than in someone else's bathroom! Here's hoping a change in venue does the trick!

cejae: I'd say the dreams can't be bad...

So note to self for the day: Don't schedule a Pap in the days before ovulating. It took 3 different specula for my doc to find my cervix. Not only is it way up there, but it points back toward my tailbone around O, so even harder to reach!

[FtMPapa]

Lyndzies - I say get take-out sperm to go whenever possible.

Cejae - go with adding it to you mortgage, I say. Some people look into buying insurance - if you get certain plan the one with the cyan crucifix in MA, for one, covers IVF. It seems too good to be true, but it might be worth looking into. However, the dreams seem a good sign to me. I was having very nice dreams last night - I attended KJM's wonderful, intense, but awesome birth. Who says dreams can't come true?

Unfortunately, vivid dreams are a common luteal phase occurrence for me. Are they for you?

AFM

I am competely at 9 DPO and anticipate this state remaining through at least tomorrow.

I'll be zen at ten...DPO. That rhymes, right?

One huge decision down - I think this is almost it for me. If I end up doing IVF in January and that doesn't work, I'm going to be shelving my TTC attempts for a while. Possibly forever. Though, with totsicles on ice, I'm not sure how long forever might be, and with embryos frozen at age 29, I might have a great shot much further down the road.

I feel a little wrung out. Still hopeful, but it's been a long road and miles to go and all that.

[sunwillshine]

Originally Posted by cejae

I'm on what I think is the last of our IUIs (I might have the stomach for one more). Currently 10dpo. Tested this morning and got a BFN. No surprise there. We'll see, but I'm not holding out hope. My guess is that we'll probably do a laproscopy to remove the endometrioma from my right ovary and then move on to IVF.
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On a happier note two nights ago I dreamed (for the first time in 11 cycles of trying!) that I was pregnant. I could feel my uterus like a hard round ball in my tummy (yes, I know that's not the way it feels for real). And then last night I dreamed that I got a BFP. Both great dreams.

Oooh, I really hope this IUI works out for you, cejae! I know that this thing gets so old and trying (no pun intended) after awhile. Tons of baby dust, good vibes, and coming at you!

And I personally think the dreams are a good sign, too!

Originally Posted by mkpgoddess

Yes, we're POA OPK's, rather obsessively. I have the internet cheapies by the several dozen, plus a box of the digi OPK's to reinforce the positive whenever it shows up. LOL - we are such dorks. DW got a miner's headlight to make the navigating easier and we were so excited that it came in the mail yesterday!

LOL!!! This cracked me up and gave me a "vaginal spelunking" image.

Originally Posted by katharinerose

So note to self for the day: Don't schedule a Pap in the days before ovulating. It took 3 different specula for my doc to find my cervix. Not only is it way up there, but it points back toward my tailbone around O, so even harder to reach!

Ugh! What a pain! (Literally.) But at least you got it out of the way now so that WHEN this cycle works, you don't have to go in for one during the pregnancy. and

Papa - my heart was aching for you reading your post. I know that there just MUST be good things in store for you TTC-wise this holiday season so you don't have to make such difficult decisions.

AFM - insem went okay yesterday. It was nice doing it at home. I laid there for about 5-10 minutes, but then everything started leaking out! I remember this happening before when I did it at home, after the sample had liquefied (when I do it right away, it's more viscous and stays put better). So I freaked and put an Instead Cup in. I'm so neurotic! The whole point was to be able to lay there, in the comfort of my own home, without the need to use the Instead Cup (at least for 20 minutes or so, so the spermie could do their thang for a bit w/out me possibly distributing them with the cup!). Argh!

Going to try to do it at home again after work, tonight... and then I wait.

Also, I don't have as much EWCM as usual... I hope O isn't late this month. That would be just my freaking luck. I usually have a decent amount by now (but then again, I haven't been checking as crazily these last few days cause I don't want to disrupt anything that's going on in there!)

I'm all thrown off by things being earlier this time!

[cejae]

Papa, how you doing today? Still feeling zen? I'm really hoping this works for you. I know how I feel after 11 cycles, I can't imagine how spent you must be after trying for so much longer than that.

Lyndzies, hoping this one takes for you! Don't you love how even when you imagine it's going to be all chill, something still goes wacky? Ah, the process of insemming...That said, I'm hoping this slightly different timeing works for you!

AFM, I woke up with a migraine this morning. Lovely. Side effect from the Femara is my guess. Laying in bed and puking all day is not exactly an option for me (speaking at a high stakes fundrasier for my college tonight), so I took a vasoconstrictor. I'm sure that's great for the developing zygote if I am pregnant. But my RE who suffers from migraines as well said that if I did end up with hormone based migraines from the Femara that I should absolutely take a rescue med. So I'm trusting her advice.

[FtMPapa]

CJ - still zen. Thanks for checking in.

You poor thing. I pushed a colleague to go to campus health the other day for a shot, migraines are NOT fun, and the big drugs do help.

I didn't know they worked on hormonal migraines, though. I have mostly stopped getting migraines (knock on wood!) but for a while, just before O, and just before bleeding were dangerous times.

Hope you're feeling better!!!

I've got a new sense of purpose and need to push through most of my comps and a good chunk of my diss in the next year, so really, shifting my focus from TTC to that would probably be a good thing. (Given that, honestly, I've pretty much loafed around and lost all drive to do my PhD in the past two years. Especially the past year, which has been completely diastrous, a total write-off in terms of accomplishing anything, though I've had some really good insights and some great ideas, no follow-through.)

[sunwillshine]

Originally Posted by FtMPapa

I've got a new sense of purpose and need to push through most of my comps and a good chunk of my diss in the next year, so really, shifting my focus from TTC to that would probably be a good thing. (Given that, honestly, I've pretty much loafed around and lost all drive to do my PhD in the past two years. Especially the past year, which has been completely diastrous, a total write-off in terms of accomplishing anything, though I've had some really good insights and some great ideas, no follow-through.)

Although I have CERTAINLY not been at this as long as you, I do understand somewhat, in some way. I've been very non-productive at work these past 4-5 months, and my own non-profit music org has gone to the pits because I just don't have any more energy to give; it's all poured into TTC.

Regardless, I hope success this cycle or in January makes the whole point or HAVING to make a decision moot for you.

AFM - having a little personal pep rally for the last insem of this cycle. i hope i hope i hope i hope. !

[FtMPapa]

Osker - Can I please be moved to working on the long IVF protocol?

Thanks.

Today is only 10 DPO, it's too early for this. I'm taking it hard. I never had a chance, obviously my progesterone is way too low.

[osker]

Oh, Papa! What a bad day.
I'm so sorry.

[katharinerose]

s for Papa. And

[megincl]

Papa, I am SO sorry. So very sorry.

pm'ing you.

megin

[sunwillshine]

So, so sorry Papa. I'm not even sure what to say but .