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post #261 of 288
ButterflyMom: Looks like you are back in the thick of the game again! Sounds like a lot of interesting and varied individuals to explore.

Have fun, be safe and looking forward to your updates.

I will live the crazy, exciting dating life vicariously through you... so, get going!
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Butterfly! Glad there are some good prospects on the horizon again! Sounds like a varied pool (both in that they are varied from each other, and from your usual type), which seems like an excellent way to mix up the odds of one them being worth anything!

Mumblemama, yeah, weird. Although..how much had he had to drink? And the context of the actual comment would matter to me, but I'm weird in that I don't mind a certain level of joke-ish talk like that..but definitely some space is in order.

Holland, a week to focus on yourself sounds *awesome*. Good for you. And have fun on that date -- I really enjoy the dates where I don't have any particular hopes or expectations, they can be really fun. I hear you on the weird stage of life difference. That is one reason I've preferred to date men who have children, as they, usually, have at least experienced the domesticated side of life. But have fun!

Rosehip, after the very first time I tried online dating, I set up a second email account -- I have a very unusual first and last name, and live in a very small town/rural state, where everyone seems to know everyone. My regular email address is my first initial and last name, so if I want any amount of privacy, I need to have a second email.

And my vote is to be proactive, and contact some people. The only two men I've met via online dating who I would consider to be successes (complications and ATG) were both men I initiated contact with. I try to write a short note, referencing something in their profile that I liked, and asking for more information about something (it is my belief that asking some questions helps in the response rate). I also do a short paragraph about my day/week -- just chatty small talk, but hopefully interesting, and a glimpse at my personality.

Not sure it is anything close to a fool proof method, but it's what I do

Now, for my update: ATG didn't end up coming over on Xmas -- my ex was here all day, and I'd been texting with ATG to let him know when the coast would be clear and in the end, he just felt to uncomfortable, which I entirely understood, although I was so exhausted and emotionally spent that I just cried.

But then we spent the day together on Sunday (he works 12-12 on Saturdays, so that was out)..had a fab morning at his house, then headed out to a bar/restaurant for lunch and watching football (not that either of us paid any attention to the football), then back to a different bar, closer to my house. My ex had taken the kids down to his moms for the day, and was going to be back late (usually I get them back around 5 or 6 pm), so when I realized I probably shouldn't drive, I had ATG drive me home.

We had just gotten back to the house, and I'd brought him up to my bedroom...(he'd never been upstairs in my house before, as the kids are usually in bed). I was in the bathroom when he called to me to tell me that a car had just pulled in the driveway..

It was my dad, his sister and her husband (who live in a different country, I'd never met the husband before!). It was a freaking riot. I had known they were planning to come up and stay for a few days between Xmas and NYE, but I hadn't heard from my dad about specifically when...So there we were, me, ATG (both somewhere left of sober) and my long lost relatives, and of course, my dad!

It all turned out fine, we got everyone in, ATG helped me quickly tidy the guest room, find food/drinks for everyone, and then we all sat around talking, and ATG and I ended up quite drunk. Then, my ex showed up, and carried the sleeping children in, one by one, up to their beds. He brought me the littlest first, and I went to lie down with him, so I didn't actually see him and ATG in the room together at all, but my dad was there as a buffer, and by all accounts it went okay.

ATG spent the night, which was lovely, and then took me back to town to retrieve my car in the morning...

Anyway. What a riot. Poor guy. My father and my ex in one night, completely unplanned. And we (ATG, my dad, aunt and uncle) had agreed that when my ex pulled in, we'd just tuck ATG away in my bedroom or something, but by the time he showed up, we were all sitting in the kitchen, away from the driveway, and quite tipsy, so we didn't notice him pull in.

Oh well. ATG rolled along with it, all very well, and is planning to come over again tonight.

Oh, and he made me mix CD for xmas, with 3 songs on it that he'd knew I liked (one I'd commented about in the car one day, and two others he'd sent to me and I'd responded favorably to) and lots more of course. I like it a lot -- just right for an Xmas gift at this stage, I think -- not spendy or elaborate, but personalized and thoughtful. I gave him a few thrift store clothes (I'm kind of a thrift store junkie, and he's been talking about needing nicer clothes for his grad school internships, and I found a cashmere sweater in his size and 5 ties so ugly that they are cool), and sewed him a case for his laptop out of some old sweaters.

post #263 of 288
Cancelled my coffee date with PartyBoy. I am not feeling 100% well... achy, exhausted, head and chest congestion, etc. And, in all honesty, I just wasn't feelin' the date or him.

I think he even felt a little relieved when I cancelled, as he commented, "Saves me a trip over the bridge. hahaha... just joking." Seriously, it is a 10 minute drive and if he felt like it was too much just for a first date, then it definitely would not have worked out later on.

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That is one reason I've preferred to date men who have children, as they, usually, have at least experienced the domesticated side of life.
All the men I have dated and my past 2 bfs (all childless) were really looking for and/or wanting that more balanced, slightly more domesticated lifestyle.

Therefore, I think it has more to do with certain individuals just not being ready to settle down, which is cool with me and I make no judgements on such a decision. Its just not what I want.

So basically, it just depends on the individual!
post #264 of 288
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Now, for my update: ATG didn't end up coming over on Xmas -- my ex was here all day, and I'd been texting with ATG to let him know when the coast would be clear and in the end, he just felt to uncomfortable, which I entirely understood, although I was so exhausted and emotionally spent that I just cried.

But then we spent the day together on Sunday (he works 12-12 on Saturdays, so that was out)..had a fab morning at his house, then headed out to a bar/restaurant for lunch and watching football (not that either of us paid any attention to the football), then back to a different bar, closer to my house. My ex had taken the kids down to his moms for the day, and was going to be back late (usually I get them back around 5 or 6 pm), so when I realized I probably shouldn't drive, I had ATG drive me home.

We had just gotten back to the house, and I'd brought him up to my bedroom...(he'd never been upstairs in my house before, as the kids are usually in bed). I was in the bathroom when he called to me to tell me that a car had just pulled in the driveway..

It was my dad, his sister and her husband (who live in a different country, I'd never met the husband before!). It was a freaking riot. I had known they were planning to come up and stay for a few days between Xmas and NYE, but I hadn't heard from my dad about specifically when...So there we were, me, ATG (both somewhere left of sober) and my long lost relatives, and of course, my dad!

It all turned out fine, we got everyone in, ATG helped me quickly tidy the guest room, find food/drinks for everyone, and then we all sat around talking, and ATG and I ended up quite drunk. Then, my ex showed up, and carried the sleeping children in, one by one, up to their beds. He brought me the littlest first, and I went to lie down with him, so I didn't actually see him and ATG in the room together at all, but my dad was there as a buffer, and by all accounts it went okay.

ATG spent the night, which was lovely, and then took me back to town to retrieve my car in the morning...

Anyway. What a riot. Poor guy. My father and my ex in one night, completely unplanned. And we (ATG, my dad, aunt and uncle) had agreed that when my ex pulled in, we'd just tuck ATG away in my bedroom or something, but by the time he showed up, we were all sitting in the kitchen, away from the driveway, and quite tipsy, so we didn't notice him pull in.

Oh well. ATG rolled along with it, all very well, and is planning to come over again tonight.

Oh, and he made me mix CD for xmas, with 3 songs on it that he'd knew I liked (one I'd commented about in the car one day, and two others he'd sent to me and I'd responded favorably to) and lots more of course. I like it a lot -- just right for an Xmas gift at this stage, I think -- not spendy or elaborate, but personalized and thoughtful. I gave him a few thrift store clothes (I'm kind of a thrift store junkie, and he's been talking about needing nicer clothes for his grad school internships, and I found a cashmere sweater in his size and 5 ties so ugly that they are cool), and sewed him a case for his laptop out of some old sweaters.

How funny! It is amazing how things like that just happen sometimes!
post #265 of 288
Holland, I get that. I've spent way too much time the last few weeks "partying" and I feel SO done with it all. I'm also feeling achy sick and exhausted today, so I had to push back my date w/ Shy Guitarist, which means not until next week sometime.

sugarmoon, that sounds awesome, despite all the craziness. In just that ATG seemed to roll with it. I loooove getting mix CDs, too.

You're right, it really was weird, and I'm glad I kicked him out. But we had both a LOT to drink so I did call him after to come back and get some sleep (didn't want him driving). It's been no secret he's a bit hung up on his ex-gf, as this WAS supposed to be all casual to begin with. So, I can't truly fault him there, but it still upset me and the whole thing has just gotten too much. Plus we were totally joking around about things and other people at the time, I think I was talking about some hot girl or something. He did apologize profusely and asked me over tonight to cook me dinner, but I'm looking forward to a few nights of quiet, that's for sure.
post #266 of 288
Mumble - enjoy some quiet! Kind of weird.

Sugar - LOVE it! What a story. Any single element (unannounced family w/time to prep, unplanned meeting between ATG & X, X & unannounced family) would have been enough in & of itself - but mix w/plenty of booze & you've got something you'll laugh about for years. It sounds like everyone rolled with it!

So, what's everyone doing for New Year's?

Well, I contacted a few guys online this afternoon. No responses yet. Ah well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?
post #267 of 288
exactly. Nothing ventured nothing gained. So so so true.


I'm in a weird place. suddenly both Soothing Southerner and Music Man aren't responding to texts or emails. Granted, it's been less than a day since either of them have been in touch so not long stretches of time, but it just has a feeling of things pulling back and being less accessible than in the beginning. I hate that. I want things to get more intimate, more available, more accessible as interest heats up, not less so. I'll be meeting up in 3-4 days with them so it's odd they'd want to jeopardize my commitment to a first date at this point.

Men.
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exactly. Nothing ventured nothing gained. So so so true.


I'm in a weird place. suddenly both Soothing Southerner and Music Man aren't responding to texts or emails. Granted, it's been less than a day since either of them have been in touch so not long stretches of time, but it just has a feeling of things pulling back and being less accessible than in the beginning. I hate that. I want things to get more intimate, more available, more accessible as interest heats up, not less so. I'll be meeting up in 3-4 days with them so it's odd they'd want to jeopardize my commitment to a first date at this point.

Men.
Hopefully they're just in transit/sleep/work mode. If things go anywhere w/Music Man...I'm in the NYC area! We could have a city outing.
post #269 of 288
Butterfly, I'm glad to hear you are feeling more upbeat!

Holland, I was never into the partying, and I have to be really honest...A thirty-eight-year-old who's still into that scene would have me rolling my eyes, not bothering with a date. Still, if you're not looking for anything serious, I suppose it doesn't matter. I'm just easily irritated. I certainly wouldn't be worrying about rescheduling!

Sugarmoon, good to hear ATG managed to roll with the punches! That is very promising.

Mumblemama, drinking or no, I don't think what he said was exactly justifiable.

As for me, I am spending the week in Orange with TG, because the girls are at their daddy's house. It is marvelous. I absolutely love being here, and waking up with this guy is the greatest thing ever. I will tell you I am very glad he is willing to move to SA, though, because even if I was able to, I would not want to live in this town. It's tiny! I am far more of a city girl than I realized.
post #270 of 288
[B]Butterfly[B] Glad thing are picking up for you! How exciting to have so many guys of different types to meet up with while in London! I wouldn't worry to much about the slow down in contact, but I panic about time between contact so don't take my advice to serioulsly

Sugarmoon wow what an adventure with ATG and meeting not only your dad but your x too! Glad he could just roll with the punches like that!

Mumblemama I would have done the same, drinking or not, that is not something a girl wants to hear while laying in bed with the guy!

Holland I totally understand not bothering with the date if you are at such different places in life. I don't really feel like wasting time on guys that are at very different places than me. I have very limited time to date so I want to use it for guys that may turn into something. Harsh maybe, and I may change my mind as time goes on....

Rosehip I've had a plenty of fish (it's all we have here, no okc or match) for about 3 weeks. I haven't contacted any guys yet, but maybe in the new year I will, to be a bit more proactive. I am a bit shy though!


To update my situation, I did get a message from HH asking how my Christmas was, he sent it on boxing day. I am waiting for a reply from last nights message asking if he has his kids on NYE. I have no plansas of yet for nye and would be open to hanging out with him
I have about 5 guys I am communicating with on pof, 3 I am not really interested in. One is I think way out of my league, I haven't returned his message yet though. He is 45, never married no kids. He works in public health. Wrote a very nice message, several paragraphs, very well spoken but I feel insecure about responding to him. The age and education factor maybe? I'll tackle it later tonight I think.
post #271 of 288
momanderson,

Just for the record, I am currently going out with a 45 year old guy I met at the swimming pool. Never married, no kids.He is 10 years older than I am, but after a certain point age really doesn't matter. It's what you are interested in, having things in common, being able to share.
As for his profession/education, is that also a big problem? Too undereducated? Usually when working in public health there is a min of education required.

At first I was super sceptical going out with SG (my guy), because of his lack of marriage and no kids, but he has really surprised me in his maturity, willingness to help me out with so many things. We haven't introduced him to my kids yet - but soon.

Just wanted to add that if I would have known his age beforehand, I don't think I would have even talked to him. But I'm glad I gave him a chance because I'm really happy with him now
post #272 of 288

funny story to wrap up 2009 with..... full of zero kissing and tons of cat pee.

momanderson, I agree with Holly!

And Soothing Southerner and Music Man both wrote me today--SS sending some upbeat messages confirming meeting me this weekend (not traveling after all) but all I want to know is when will he call again? Tonight? Now?? I'm so impatient. Music Man emailed me back last night that he got no text messages from me yesterday and anyways will call me today. Then he got no answer for 8+ hours and re-sent the same email, at which point I answered (I had been sleeping). I hope he calls any minute... I like long phone conversations while waiting for a first date. They really help gauge things.


So for my weird story.

There's this local stage actor guy who I've been friends with for a couple of months. He's a single dad and helped me write my murder mystery game for the murder mystery party I threw in October, and he's just been a nice guy to talk to on facebook chat or text messaging or whatever, and I like him. He's actually a familiar face from the first years I lived out here as he was in a language-training-tv-program-for-foreigners that I watched over and over during my pregnancies, so it's funny that I'd seen so much of his face 6 years before meeting him. Then he's been asking me to hang out for the past few weeks but it hasn't worked out. We tried to arrange a playdate with our kids last week and that didn't work out either. But anyways, two nights ago he asked to pick me up and go to his place to watch a video. This all went great, he even took me to dinner first, and we had a blast hanging out, very relaxed and casual and I hope that we stay friends at the very least. He has a gorgeous cat that i enjoyed making new friends with. His son was with his mother so it was just us at his place and it got very late and i was falling asleep on the couch. He told me I could sleep anywhere I wanted in his home, just pick a spot and sleep so I crawled up into the loft into his big bed and crashed in my clothes, on top of the blankets. He later came up next to me and got under the blankets on the other side, in his underwear. The man happens to be a greek god with his shirt off, by the way. Like, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in X-Men type body, or perhaps even more muscular and ripped. Just breathtaking. He's got shaggy hair like a rugged wolf, and leathery face that shows all of his 43 years but is kinda sexy, like a hunter or warrior. He often plays such roles in the opera. Anyway, he didn't touch me, but his cat snuggled in between my knees and slept. I eventually got under the blankets and his cat stayed dedicated to my knees. Later I wake up to a veritable shower raining all over me. My face, my head, etc. I wonder why I'm getting all wet and where the sprinkling water is coming from, but it stops and I try to go back to sleep but I see that it's very warm between my legs. I start to smell cat urine and it dawns on me. the cat had wet himself there on the bed on my knees, and then walked up towards my head and shaken himself as hard as he could to get some of the pee out of his soaked fur. all over my face and hair. and my jeans were soaked with cat pee, as the bed. I took them off and hung them to dry and went to his son's bed and slept in my underwear and a shirt for awhile, and later I felt weird in his son's loft because it's like being a in a treehouse, very disconcerting like you could fall out, and I returned to Stage Actor's bed next to him, and we slept all night. When we woke, we spent another 2 hours talking, joking around, and watching youtube clips in his bed before getting up and making breakfast. I tried to send the message that touching wasn't off limits, several times, by small touches on his arm or against him a bit, but very little. I was sort of hoping that he would make some sort of a romantic move. But no. He took me home and helped me get my Christmas tree down & out, and then went home. I texted him last night to see if he was up (I know what a night owl he is) and if he'd want to join me and he politely declined. What is going on here?
post #273 of 288
Hollycrand,

I really don't know what my insecurity about messaging this guy is! I am 32, so he'd be 13 years older. I don't know I guess I just feel insecure about the fact he has no children and I have 5! All of them under 11. It is totally my own insecurity that is holding me back on this one!

As for the education/profession he would be way more educated than I am! I only have college, he'd have many years of university. He used to live in Toronto, I have never lived in a big city! I really should just message him back. Having someone I could have intelligent conversation with would be nice!

I guess I am still holding out hope for something more real with HH. Because we do have a lot in common, and are at the same place in life. But I don't know what is going on with him, haven't talked to him for 10 days except a few messages on facebook.
post #274 of 288
Momanderson, you really need to work on your self-esteem. When you feel (and believe) like you are the most amazing woman... there is NO man out of your league! Just a lot of men that don't deserve such an amazing woman as your self.

As for this man's education... let me tell you about my x-bf. My x-bf was an ivy-leagued educated with a MD, MS and PhD to his name. Seriously, the man was an amazing academic with a vocabulary to die for.

BUT... he had little to no social/emotional intelligence. With 18+ months with him, I finally learned that social/emotional intelligence is FAR superior to academic intelligence.

Does he know that you have 5 kids? Did you write that into your profile?
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Momanderson, you really need to work on your self-esteem. When you feel (and believe) like you are the most amazing woman... there is NO man out of your league! Just a lot of men that don't deserve such an amazing woman as your self.
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No one is laughing about my cat pee story?
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No one is laughing about my cat pee story?
Oh, I was... I just got distracted by my own cats peeing next to me in their litter box!

post #277 of 288
Holly and Butterflymom- you're right I do need to work on my self esteem! I know I am awesome and any guy would be lucky to have me! Must be hormones going out of whack

I did message him back a while ago. In my profile I do mention I have kids, but not how many. In my message I did tell him I have 5 kids. So we shall see! I will post his username in private and you gals can check him out! He looks very familiar, I am thinking he works in the health inspector/food safety part of our local health unit. I think I have met him when I worked in long term care. I didn't want to ask right off, that seems a bit gold diggerish When he replies I'll ask what department he's in!

And butterfly I was laughing about the cat pee! I'm not a cat person so I wouldn't have been so graceful about the incident!
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And butterfly I was laughing about the cat pee! I'm not a cat person so I wouldn't have been so graceful about the incident!
I like cats, but man cat pee is one of the nastiest things ever. I would not have handled it with much grace at all. Stage actor ought to be worshipping you, at this point, Butterfly.

Rosehip, I want to second what everyone else said. It is so hard to feel good about ourselves as we get back out there, but this is a great time to "fake it till you make it" and hit some thrift stores for fun, flattering clothes, get a cute new haircut or something, and just jump in with both feet. Online dating is great for building up some confidence -- go on lots of dates and it will build your confidence and help you figure out what kind of guy you are looking for.

I do totally know what you mean with the 5 kids issue though. I have 4, all under 7, and I'm practically a solo mom. I have a HUGE chip on my shoulder about the kids thing. Poor ATG, on our second date I told him that there was a very small window time that he could date me before he could tell me that he just couldn't deal with dating someone who had 4 kids, and that if he tried to end it based on the kids after that window of time, I would kick him, hard.



Poor guy didn't know how to respond to that one. But it is hard. Hugs, honey

I'm thinking I might have to give up on the skeptical, pessimistic chip on my shoulder wrt ATG though. The guy just keeps showing up, and making me . He came over last night for dinner with me and the kids, played trains with the boys a bit before bed....slept over...I'm just
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sugarmoon
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MomAnderson - good for you for replying to him!

Sugarmoon - full steam ahead with ATG! Sounds wonderful

Butterfly - I don't know whether to laugh or running screaming from your cat pee story! I'm NOT a cat person & would NOT have coped well with that!

Well, I took the plunge & contacted a bunch of guys online yesterday & today, and not too many bites A couple that are only semi-promising. On paper, I think I've got a lot of things stacked against me (student, have kids, and I live *outside* the city, and what with traffic & public trans, that poses a bit of a logistical hassle). Ah well. I'll keep trying!

On the upside, I've got New Year's plans! Not a date, but a friend invited me to join a group dinner & later party @ her house outing. Aside from dating, I'm actually very happy about my social life. I became SO isolated during my marriage, for a whole host of reasons. Since pulling myself out of the depths of my divorce despair, I've really been working on creating a nice little local group for myself. It's not easy because I live in a pretty wealthy town, and I'm *really* the minority in that I'm single/divorced (my kids are young, the cynic in me says to wait a few more years and the divorces will begin), living with my parents, and am a student/not a SAHM. Anyhoo, I've gradually become a part of this nice group of women, which has been really lovely. I've also been making a point to spend more time with my long-time best friends from college, high school, old jobs, etc.!
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