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post #81 of 146
I actually saw a commercial this weekend talking about the latest upsurge in h1n1 flu. It was either selling vaccines, or bleach. I forget which. I was so shocked when they said there was another upsurge in flu that I did not pay attention to what was being sold.
post #82 of 146
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Originally Posted by mama1803 View Post
What is the deal with people who have already had the swine flu getting vaccinated for H1N1? I have been hearing about this so much lately. Has everyone forgotten what natural immunity is?

The latest case is child in my community who was extremely ill from a confirmed case of H1N1 a few months ago. He had pneumonia and apparently a stroke brought on by the virus.

He had a stroke? was he given Tamiflu? Some of the data the Cochrane Review was able to get from Roche showed Tamiflu caused heart-damage. where is the criminal investigation into the Roche fraud regarding Tamiflu? parents of kids who died after receiving Tamiflu need to start a class action suit against the company. Roche does not have protection from liability for non-vaccine drugs. or is there a clause in the HSA protecting all pandemic drugs - anyone know?
post #83 of 146
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Originally Posted by Juvysen View Post
So just the other day they were holding an H1N1 vax clinic at a local school...

does it seem weird to anyone else that they're still doing this? Things I keep reading say that it ran it's course and probably stopped because of the herd immunity... vaxing just seems... ridiculous to me now.

I just keep

Oh, and on medscape the other day - an article questioning the efficacy of tamiflu in reducing the chance of severe symptoms.

The whole thing just seems more and more like a giant debacle to me.
Around here, the news outlets won't stop talking about the "h1n1 vaccine surplus". In one part of the article, they'll say the officials are *shocked* that there are so many doses left over because people are refusing it (or have already gotten h1n1 so skipped the vax) but then they'll go on to hint that all who don't get it are risking death.

They really try to pull out all the stops, eh?
post #84 of 146
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Originally Posted by k9sarchik View Post
I just saw on the news that you can sit on Santa's lap and get your H1N1 vaccine. After they showed the boy getting his vaccine, the director of the clinic said that there is no more cases of H1N1 in Colorado, but you had better still come and get your vaccine because someone could still bring it in.
...whatever.

Sweet! Now we can really make sure kids are scared of Santa. Way to kill a Christmas tradition and take advantage of the situation.


post #85 of 146
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Originally Posted by AllyRae View Post
Sweet! Now we can really make sure kids are scared of Santa. Way to kill a Christmas tradition and take advantage of the situation.


Yeah, now that you mention it, the whole SANTA + VACCINE scenario is downright disturbing.
post #86 of 146
Just saw a rather interesting program on PBS {PBS Newshour} on Swine Flu. Wasn't quite a biased as usual and actually had a bit of back and forth vax vs no-vax. Worth trying to catch if you can.


But what caught my eye/ear was the CDC {keep in mind this program was made several months ago per them} picked miscarriages as their "normal" event that might happen and not be related to the vaccine. According to the CDC director {and I'm loosely paraphrasing} "If we vaccinated every pregnant woman in the US, we could expect that about 2000 would miscarry within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine". They compared it to the heart attacks that occurred in the 1976 vaccine and the elderly.

Does anyone know how many there have been reported? It seems to me that with only about 40% of the population vaccinated {again per CDC on the update given at the end of the show} that that number is already higher than 2000.
post #87 of 146
Children's Swine Flu Vaccine Recalled.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/...ne_flu_vaccine

It's not as strong as they initially thought. But don't worry if your child got one or even two doses, they're still protected.
post #88 of 146
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Originally Posted by jeanine123 View Post
Children's Swine Flu Vaccine Recalled.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/...ne_flu_vaccine

It's not as strong as they initially thought. But don't worry if your child got one or even two doses, they're still protected.
Seems I'm confused on the definition of "effective". How can they say it's effective, but sort of not, but sort of yes, so just don't worry. Huh?
post #89 of 146
Exactly. We're recalling it because it's not as strong as we thought it was but don't worry, it'll still work. Ummm...so why the heck are you recalling it then???




(the little cynic in me thinks they're saying this to avoid all of the panicked, ticked off parents who had their children injected with this now not as useful vaccine)
post #90 of 146
Wait... What?

From that link:
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Swine flu was first identified in April. During the first seven months of the pandemic, it has sickened about 50 million Americans and killed about 10,000, according to CDC estimates.
Really? 10,000? I smell something... sorta barn yard-y.
post #91 of 146
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Originally Posted by jeanine123 View Post
Children's Swine Flu Vaccine Recalled.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/...ne_flu_vaccine

It's not as strong as they initially thought. But don't worry if your child got one or even two doses, they're still protected.
I just saw this on the NY Fox affiliate. The doctor on there said that the recalled batches were the thimerisol free ones and that now there are no more thimerisol free vaxes for kids under 2.
post #92 of 146
10,000?

*spews hot cocoa* what?? since when??
post #93 of 146
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Originally Posted by Sileree View Post
10,000?

*spews hot cocoa* what?? since when??
Last week they re-adjusted the numbers again more than doubling the more than doubled numbers that they derrived from adjusting the numbers they actually COUNTED -wait, did they actually count any?

you know... to sell the rest of the vaccine...
post #94 of 146
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Originally Posted by JacquelineR View Post
Wait... What?

From that link:


Really? 10,000? I smell something... sorta barn yard-y.

See... but the funny thing to me... is that it's still TENS OF THOUSANDS of deaths lower than the normal seasonal flu So ooga booga, I guess.
post #95 of 146
Ooga booga, indeed.

http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en_us/us/

I don't know what ooga booga means, but man, it's fun to say!
post #96 of 146
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Ooga booga, indeed.

http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en_us/us/

I don't know what ooga booga means, but man, it's fun to say!
LOL... it sure is!

It's what the boogie man says when he comes to get you
post #97 of 146
I am digging ooga booga too!
post #98 of 146
What's not so funny to me is that those shots were prefilled.

WHY?

The 800,000 pre-filled syringes that were recalled are for young children, ages 6 months to nearly 3 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/...ne_flu_vaccine
post #99 of 146
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Originally Posted by Gitti View Post
What's not so funny to me is that those shots were prefilled.

WHY?

The 800,000 pre-filled syringes that were recalled are for young children, ages 6 months to nearly 3 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/...ne_flu_vaccine
That is interesting. I know that the doses that have trace preservative are in single dose vials. But, even those then need to be put into syringes. I wonder if it was something as stupid as they had them ready to go for patients who never came into get them--and they degraded because they were stored improperly.
post #100 of 146
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Originally Posted by Gitti View Post
What's not so funny to me is that those shots were prefilled.

WHY?

The 800,000 pre-filled syringes that were recalled are for young children, ages 6 months to nearly 3 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/...ne_flu_vaccine
Because that's how any vaccine comes - it's either in multi-dose vials, single dose vials or pre-filled syringes that the provider attaches a needle to.
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