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post #1 of 182
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This thread is not what I intended it to be. I started it one night because I was upset after a person was nasty to me while I was at a festival with my family. A couple days prior I experienced something similar. I was upset and wanted to hear if this happened to other mothers. Some people were very supportive and made excellent points. I thank them.

Just to be clear, I don't have hostility towards strollers. I have experienced hostility towards my stroller.

If you haven't read the thread yet, I suggest you skip it. I hoped it would be removed.
post #2 of 182
I find people to be both rude and nice.I get my mix of people letting the doors slam on me usually by teenagers or old people while trying to stroller inside a building.Hollister clothing store has gave me the evil eye by being a mom with a stroller in there store (there store is to strong with perfume anyhow)

Most of the time people are nice.


What rips me is stores not being stroller friendly.I get upset by shopping at shops that have racks ontop of each other or stuff in toddler reach lol.Not everyone has a nanny.My child thinks its fun to see what he can rip off the racks while strolling by. When I get him out of stroller I see a million clothes tags where he was sitting.
post #3 of 182
I don't get that often, especially that I have a Maclaren single (doesn't take too much space). But I was in the mall recently with a friend who had a double stroller and as we were walking side by side down the main isle (not in a store) a lady mall walker told us as she went by 'single file ladies' in a very rude tone of voice! She had plenty of room to get by, so I don't know what her problem was. Grrrr.
post #4 of 182
I'll admit, I have a problem with strollers. Too many of them are 'cadillacs' - huge things that have shocks and off-road tires that don't belong in stores. And parents are careless with them. I love children, but if there's a double stroller in the middle of the aisle of a crowded restroom, I'm going to curse the parents under my breath.

If more people used smaller strollers that were a single person wide and didn't take up a good portion of close areas, I don't think there'd be much of a problem with it. But it's the behemoths that make people groan - especially during the busy shopping season and the already crowded areas.
post #5 of 182
It's not just strollers! Some people are just too rude and selfish to accomodate anyone else in a public place. I can't tell you the number of times people have shoved past me in a crowd when I'm wearing my son in the Moby wrap. It happened just today while shopping in a crowded store - a group of 3 college age kids cut right in front of me in an aisle, close enough they brushed my son. No "excuse me" or anything. The one that REALLY gets me is @$#% people in parking lots who zoom on by and don't yield to pedestrians. I'm always amazed - do they really need to get somewhere SO BADLY that they can't wait until I am done crossing their path with my son before driving past?

Anyways, sorry you're encountering this. I would totally hold the door for you if I could!
post #6 of 182
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I'm always amazed - do they really need to get somewhere SO BADLY that they can't wait until I am done crossing their path with my son before driving past?
post #7 of 182
I was just reading an article about this, about two months ago, and it really stuck with me. I wish I remembered where I found it.

The article was basically about how traditionally women aren't allowed to take up space, and the animosity towards women with strollers is all about that. How if people see a guy with a stroller, they think "aw, what an awesome dad taking his kid out!" but a woman with a stroller is "taking up too much space" or "entitled." Because women should be in the kitchen, out of sight, and children should be invisible.

I dunno, it kid of struck a chord with me. Some very good points were made, I thought. On the surface it was kind of weird, but the more I think about it, the more I think maybe there's something to it.

I also never understand when people complain about how big strollers are. Hasn't anyone seen an old-fashioned pram, the kind common right up to the 1970s? Those things were friggin TANKS. The animosity towards large strollers is 100% class-based.
post #8 of 182
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Originally Posted by lach View Post
The animosity towards large strollers is 100% class-based.
interesting article, to be sure!
i will politely disagree with you on that last point though, i think the animosity toward large strollers is that they are large! they make navigating crowds difficult. there are lots of small strollers (umbrella strollers, for one that are cheap and aren't so huge.
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Originally Posted by April Dawn View Post
It's not just strollers! Some people are just too rude and selfish to accomodate anyone else in a public place. I can't tell you the number of times people have shoved past me in a crowd when I'm wearing my son in the Moby wrap.
true. but i also cant count how many times i have been bashed - not grazed, not bumped- bashed with a stroller. people in crowds sometimes use their stroller like a battering ram to get people out of their way.
not saying that glaring at a person with a stroller is ok, we could all use a little more compassion in our lives. maybe some of the hate comes from being bashed. (not saying you bash into people, OP!)
post #9 of 182
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Originally Posted by MadiMamacita View Post
interesting article, to be sure!
i will politely disagree with you on that last point though, i think the animosity toward large strollers is that they are large! they make navigating crowds difficult. there are lots of small strollers (umbrella strollers, for one that are cheap and aren't so huge.
First of all, I want to say that I normally agree with everything that you say But I have to disagree with the umbrella stroller thing. When I was a Nanny I found it to be really uncomfortable. Maybe I am just too tall? I always had to hunch over to push it and the larger stroller was much more comfortable for me to use. It was fairly big but obviously I didn't buy it

ETA: Ours umbrella stroller did not adjust, so perhaps they make some that do, in which case, disreguard what I just said!
post #10 of 182
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Originally Posted by Bunnyflakes View Post
First of all, I want to say that I normally agree with everything that you say But I have to disagree with the umbrella stroller thing. When I was a Nanny I found it to be really uncomfortable. Maybe I am just too tall? I always had to hunch over to push it and the larger stroller was much more comfortable for me to use. It was fairly big but obviously I didn't buy it

ETA: Ours umbrella stroller did not adjust, so perhaps they make some that do, in which case, disregard what I just said!
fair enough! i've never actually used an umbrella stroller, but i was just using that as an example of a small stroller that isn't super expensive. i still dont think that a bias against large strollers is class based.
post #11 of 182
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Originally Posted by MadiMamacita View Post
true. but i also cant count how many times i have been bashed - not grazed, not bumped- bashed with a stroller. people in crowds sometimes use their stroller like a battering ram to get people out of their way.
not saying that glaring at a person with a stroller is ok, we could all use a little more compassion in our lives. maybe some of the hate comes from being bashed. (not saying you bash into people, OP!)
I have to agree, this is all too common. The attitude of "get out of my way, I have a stroller, I take precedence over everyone else. Too bad about your shins..."
post #12 of 182
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Originally Posted by MadiMamacita View Post
interesting article, to be sure!
i will politely disagree with you on that last point though, i think the animosity toward large strollers is that they are large! they make navigating crowds difficult. there are lots of small strollers (umbrella strollers, for one that are cheap and aren't so huge.

true. but i also cant count how many times i have been bashed - not grazed, not bumped- bashed with a stroller. people in crowds sometimes use their stroller like a battering ram to get people out of their way.
not saying that glaring at a person with a stroller is ok, we could all use a little more compassion in our lives. maybe some of the hate comes from being bashed. (not saying you bash into people, OP!)
And they are pieces of crap. Every.. single.. umbrella stroller I have owned.. or family members have owned have had something funky happen to the front wheels so they don't work anymore within a matter of months.. sometimes weeks. I spend my whole time fighting with the stroller to go the direction I want becuase it will not steer anymore. I generally end up popping a wheely and my kids go around with the front wheels in the air. I hate those things and there is a reason they are cheap!!

However with my younger two kids.. after they grew out of being worn.. I have found decent smaller strollers that were not umbrella strollers. They still fit in the car... have cup holders, padding, and canopies that make a comfortable ride and do not take up too much space.

As for strollers not being able to get down isles cause stores have the racks too close. I have complied to a store before. Aren't they supposed to be handicap accessible? If I can't get a stroller down the isle how is a wheel chair going to get down the isle? I was shrugged at.

ETA: and I have never been rammed into by a stroller.
post #13 of 182
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Originally Posted by choli View Post
I have to agree, this is all too common. The attitude of "get out of my way, I have a stroller, I take precedence over everyone else. Too bad about your shins..."
you'd be lucky to hear "too bad about your shins!"
post #14 of 182
I'll admit it. I'm a stroller hater too. Especially in places like Victoria's secret where there isn't really much room to walk.

Strollers have gotten massive over the last 15 years. They used to be easier to work around, but now it's not much smaller than pushing a full size shopping cart around the mall.

I'm not rude about it... but, I am annoyed.

Last night a woman had a giant stroller in Wal Mart... while also dragging a shopping cart and holding the baby (who was old enough to walk). THEN... she was parked next to my van, and put her cart behind my van while she unloaded her groceries into her car even though she knew I was trying to leave. It took a long time before she put the baby in the carseat........ then slowly folded her stroller up.........put it back in the trunk of her car......... then she moved her cart out of my way AND gave me a nasty look because I was in HER way. I have done that faster with four kids.
post #15 of 182
If you want to experience stroller hostility try pushing the huge boxy double stroller at Disney (world -lands aren't bad) through crowded mainstreet.

and I agree that cheapie umbrella stroers are awful. We do have a nice, compact peg perego - but like maclarens they are $$$.
post #16 of 182
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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
And they are pieces of crap. Every.. single.. umbrella stroller I have owned.. or family members have owned have had something funky happen to the front wheels so they don't work anymore within a matter of months.. sometimes weeks. I spend my whole time fighting with the stroller to go the direction I want becuase it will not steer anymore. I generally end up popping a wheely and my kids go around with the front wheels in the air. I hate those things and there is a reason they are cheap!!
The only umbrella strollers that I've owned that were comfortable for me to push (I'm 5'6"ish) cost more than those nasty, plasticky travel systems that some people love.

Those cheap umbrella strollers are only comfortable to push if you're a short person going a short distance.

If I'm going to use a stroller, dang it, it's going to be comfortable for both my child, myself and DH to use.

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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
As for strollers not being able to get down isles cause stores have the racks too close. I have complied to a store before. Aren't they supposed to be handicap accessible? If I can't get a stroller down the isle how is a wheel chair going to get down the isle? I was shrugged at.
In some stores, the racks are so close that you can't get the darned carts between them, let alone a stroller or wheelchair.
post #17 of 182
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Originally Posted by musikat View Post
I don't get that often, especially that I have a Maclaren single (doesn't take too much space). But I was in the mall recently with a friend who had a double stroller and as we were walking side by side down the main isle (not in a store) a lady mall walker told us as she went by 'single file ladies' in a very rude tone of voice! She had plenty of room to get by, so I don't know what her problem was. Grrrr.
I would have had to asked her if we were still in high school.
post #18 of 182
I just have to say that I HATE driving a stroller!! LOL

It seems like ESPECIALLY the malls are a pain in the arse to drive stollers around.............

That being said I have never been glared at (don't get out much, LOL) and I have never been run over by a stoller. BOTH of those things would make me pretty upset.

I have been run over by store carts however............I guess that's another story
post #19 of 182
I've never been rammed by a stroller either. That isn't to say that it doesn't happen, obviously, or that there aren't some really obnoxious people out there who happen to be mothers who happen to have children in strollers. But I think that there's a peculiar tendency for people to be eager about sharing their stories about obnoxious women with strollers, and then painting all mothers or even all women with that broad brush.

I mean, if I posted on this forum with a specific example that seemed to confirm a broader negative stereotype, I'm sure I'd be (rightfully) corrected by other posters, and perhaps even get into trouble with the mods. So why is it okay to hate on "large strollers" and use as the only evidence some anecdotes that are more about obnoxious people than about strollers?

I've been following the anti large-stroller trend with a lot of interest since it really started in full force about 5 years ago (back then it was 100% about the Bugaboo, now that there's a wider assortment of high end strollers it's expanded), and I really have to say that I think it's a subject heavily influenced by both misogyny and class. Both of which our culture supports criticizing, so people get away with perpetuating the stereotype of women with children in strollers as being bad females: taking up space, "entitled," and somehow automatically poor mothers.

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Originally Posted by nextcommercial View Post
Last night a woman had a giant stroller in Wal Mart... while also dragging a shopping cart and holding the baby (who was old enough to walk). THEN... she was parked next to my van, and put her cart behind my van while she unloaded her groceries into her car even though she knew I was trying to leave. It took a long time before she put the baby in the carseat........ then slowly folded her stroller up.........put it back in the trunk of her car......... then she moved her cart out of my way AND gave me a nasty look because I was in HER way. I have done that faster with four kids.
Not to pick on you, because every anecdote in this thread and on every other message board I've ever read about this subject and in countless articles follows basically the same theme, so I'm just using it as an example. But while that is totally obnoxious (though I would like to say that it's very rare that I let my 2.5yo walk in a store like that, though she is more than capable of walking herself. And running. And picking things up off the shelf. And helping to rearrange the shelves.), that story doesn't really have much to do with strollers. It's just an obnoxious woman who happened to have a stroller.

Oh yeah, and another vote for umbrella strollers being awful. We have an expensive one at my parents', and have run through a string of cheap ones at our house, and they're uncomfortable and break easily. My parents were really enthusiastic about the real strollers we have, and went on at length about how when I was a baby all the strollers were awful umbrella strollers and they would have given their right arms for a stroller that was big enough to be comfortable to the kid and easy for the adult to push.
post #20 of 182
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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
As for strollers not being able to get down isles cause stores have the racks too close. I have complied to a store before. Aren't they supposed to be handicap accessible? If I can't get a stroller down the isle how is a wheel chair going to get down the isle? I was shrugged at.

ETA: and I have never been rammed into by a stroller.
I wonder that, too! If I can't get in there w/ my stroller, I darn sure couldn't get in w/a wheelchair or scooter!

We do have a large 3-tired stroller. Our city has many junky sidewalks, for one, and pushing anything less than an air-filled tire is a nightmare. Our stroller also converts into a double, so there is no way we are spending more than the staggering amount we spent on this (very much worth it) stroller we already own. We own one, the end. You are also able to store more things in a bigger stroller, like coats and bags. No way am I trying to push a usually crappy or overpriced umbrella stroller, carry my coat, diaper bag, and whatever I have purchased. It's just not practical, esp w/ more than one kid/baby in tow.

I have never been hit by a stroller, but I have hit many things! I am a bad navigator! I do apologize a lot, though! I always apologize when I bump into someone w/out a stroller, too. I try to be v polite, always saying, "Excuse us," when we are trying to get through
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