was bullied into vaccinating - Page 2

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

Remember you dont have to do the WBC at all or you can only do certain ones. It is totally up to you and perfectly legal. I stopped all WBC when I stopped vaxing since I had a baby scale and ruler and didnt want to debate vax at every single appt. Some prefer to do WBC so they are covered and then only do 2m, 6, and a year. Some more some less.

From what you describe going through if it where me I would avoid them because they are going to give you are really hard time every time. Something you can do is tell them you are religiously opposed to them and they may leave you alone since they dont want to get in trouble for discrimination.

[hippy mum]

I'm so sorry they bullied you. Not a reason to vax though. I'd cancel the appt if it were me and switch drs. You could always write a note stating the circumstances that surrounded the paper and have them put it in the chart, and keep a copy for yourself. I'd make them sign it. Also the MDC paper too.
Hugs to you.

[chaoticzenmom]

It sounds like you've decided to cancel the appt. and not get her vaccinated. You don't have to keep that appt. just in case you were wondering.

The problem with allowing yourself to be bullied is that the bully gets to walk away and forget the interaction, but you get stuck with the feelings of regret and inadequacy from being the victim of the bully. Wearing a white coat doesn't mean that they're not as much of a bully as the stereotypical bully.

If I were you, I"d probably change dr's.

[New_Natural_Mom]

Check your local laws, but those are YOUR medical records and I believe they are legally required to provide them for you. I would just take it out of the chart - in front of them or not, but I am a b* sometimes.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by stiss

Hmm...are you suggesting that I open my mind beyond what my gut instinct is telling me?

That depends on how well your gut instinct has served you in the past. I have a miraculous record. I can trust mine 100%.

[moonlight mom]

Thanks for the advice. I am looking into a family doc right now. I would also like to update everyone that my husband went back today and asked to see his daughter's chart (a different nurse today). He took out the form and said that he is taking it home because I signed it under duress. The nurse was stunned and said you can't take that and he just walked out. The police never showed up so I assume we are OK

Anyway, I also assume that I am kicked out of the practice. Oh well.
On a side note - this is my first experience with selective/delayed vacs. My ds is fully vac. I can't believe how hard it is and how much trouble you get at every well baby visit. It is like they are the parents and not you. They treat you as if you are crazy and/or stupid. I am sorry I even went to the WBV.

[chaoticzenmom]

LOL, that's too funny. "You can't do that."

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by moonlight mom

Thanks for the advice. I am looking into a family doc right now. I would also like to update everyone that my husband went back today and asked to see his daughter's chart (a different nurse today). He took out the form and said that he is taking it home because I signed it under duress. The nurse was stunned and said you can't take that and he just walked out. The police never showed up so I assume we are OK

Anyway, I also assume that I am kicked out of the practice. Oh well.
On a side note - this is my first experience with selective/delayed vacs. My ds is fully vac. I can't believe how hard it is and how much trouble you get at every well baby visit. It is like they are the parents and not you. They treat you as if you are crazy and/or stupid. I am sorry I even went to the WBV.

I am sure you can see now why some people never take their kids to a doctor. Our last visit was 11 years ago. And it's been much longer for dh and me.

For trauma we go to the ER. Everything else, we take care ourselves.

We have gone to the ER once in the last 20 years for a broken arm.

[luv-my-boys]

Originally Posted by New_Natural_Mom

Check your local laws, but those are YOUR medical records and I believe they are legally required to provide them for you. I would just take it out of the chart - in front of them or not, but I am a b* sometimes.

I wanted to chime in as a mom that dosent vax and a nurse. Medical records are considered legal documents and are the property of the medical professional. However, under HIPPAA you have a right to have access to what your medical documents contain for instace copies/labwork/reports. NOT to the actual documents themselves . That being said, because they are considered legal documents it is considered unethical and could be contrued as illegal to alter said documents (removing,white out,deleting portions or all) because you dont like what it says. You can however request that updated or corrected information be made part of your record if you believe it is incorrect or not complete. Again this is protected under HIPPAA. If you are ever in a situation in which you disagree with what is in your medical record or believe it is not accurate do make a letter to that effect and demand that is made a part of your record.

[Jenelle]

Originally Posted by moonlight mom

I would also like to update everyone that my husband went back today and asked to see his daughter's chart (a different nurse today). He took out the form and said that he is taking it home because I signed it under duress. The nurse was stunned and said you can't take that and he just walked out.

This is awesome.

I am so glad to hear a tone of empowerment instead of "I am backed into a corner and am going to vax". Good for you guys!

[etc]

Here in central Maryland, some pediatricians are extremely aggressive. One said she wouldn't see us at all if we didn't vax. the other said would turn us into CPS if we didn't get tetanus shot after a minor dog bite.

[member234098]

...turn us into CPS if we didn't get tetanus shot after a minor dog bite.

There is no scientific evidence that a tetanus shot after a minor dog bite is always warranted. A good soap and warm water washing is just as effective.

It has been my experience that most CPS workers are aware that most nonvaxers are well-informed, well-educated, and are up to speed on the latest in research, so that file would go no where; yet this person would still have a CPS file on them, which is not a good thing.

[moonlight mom]

Originally Posted by Jenelle

This is awesome.

I am so glad to hear a tone of empowerment instead of "I am backed into a corner and am going to vax". Good for you guys!

Thanks! It felt good to remind them who is in charge - even if I was slightly illegal
I rightfully just had to listen to a small lecture from my husband about signing something I haven't read

[Mschrissy007]

What a BLESSING IT IS TO BE ON THIS FORUM! IM A MOM, WIFE AND MOST OF ALl a wOMAN OF GOD:).. I have always vaccinated my children who are
10,8,2&8mths. BUT AS OF NOW GOD HAS BEEN PUTTING IN MY HEART WHERE IS MY "FAITH". As a PASTORS WIFE I BELIEVE THAT VACCINES ARE WRONG , after I had my last daughter I started to feel really sad and uneasy about vaccines and I asked the LORD TO PLEASE GIVE ME WISDOM ON THIS MATTER. PRAISE GOD CAUSE HE SHOWED ME THAT I NEED TO HAVE FAITH IN HIM NOT THE WORLD. I DON'T JUDGE THOSE WHO DO OR THOSE WHO DON'T BUT WE NEED TO BE INFORMED AND WISE OF THE DECISIONS WE MAKE FOR THE CHILDREN THE LORD HAS INTRUSTED US WITH , I used to be very scared that if I didn't vaccinate my children they would be taken away and not allowed to start school . IM STILL NEARVOUS BUT IM ALSO HUMAN THANK U TO ALL YOU WONDERFUL SMART MOTHERS I PRAY THESE SCRIPTURES CAN BRING A BLESSING TO .

The Bible teaches that there are clean and unclean animals and that God's people are not to put the unclean into their bodies (Deuteronomy 14). Furthermore, the Bible teaches that Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself; (Deuteronomy 14:21) and hut flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. (Genesis 9:4) Vaccines are often made of, or in bodies, fetuses or eggs of said unclean creatures. The process of creating the vaccine often causes said creatures to die in the process (i.e., dieth of itself). Many vaccines are made in or of the blood of diseased animals. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own. For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. (I Corinthians 6:19,20):joy