Teen Mom - Page 7

[lilmom]

Originally Posted by Tilia

Ok, I am so mad for Farrah. I am actually on her side and I think her mom treats her horrible. And Dr. Drew was making her feel bad for the way she treats her mom. Yes, duh, because her mom says that she is a bad mom and acts like Farrah is just this horrible person. She goes to school and works, give the girl a break and let her go out once in a while.

I cannot believe that Amber laughed when she saw the scene where she hit Gary. I know she is very immature but please, that was terrible. Classic abuser too "there is more back story than what they showed." It doesn't matter, you took it past the line and abused your DP.

YES to all of that!!! AND I also think that Dr. Drew is dead wrong that Ryan could possibly change. Did he not see/hear everything Ryan was saying/doing this whole season??? Honestly, I was not impressed with how Dr. Drew was handling things. I realize he has only a very short time to talk and to do the show..however, Farrah needed some support, Maci needed some support..good grief GARY needed some support!

You know who they need on there? Dr. Phil. He would tell them straight up.

It made me really sad to see how Amber has not taken any responsibility still for the problems in the relationship. She said she didn't regret hitting Gary, because she was defending her dad! Um, that does not make it ok.

I really felt like Farrah had come a very long way and didn't get alot of credit for it.

Also Tyler and Catelynn..still precious. And baby Carly looks EXACTLY like Tyler to me.

[oiseau]

Man, I just finished watching the finale special and it made me really upset. Dr. Drew was driving me insane. He seemed so dismissive to all of the girls, but especially Maci and Farrah. I can't believe he told Maci that she and Ryan should still try to work on their relationship!! She needs to get away from Ryan and do things for herself and Bentley. Wasting more time on Ryan just seems so stressful and awful for Maci.
As for Farrah, she used to drive me nuts, but she looked like she was hurting so bad during the whole finale. She really needs to get away from her mom. I was wondering if they filmed the special before or after Farrah's mom's arrest (not sure if I'm allowed to mention that, but hopefully it's ok since it's in reference to the show). I also hope Farrah doesn't get too caught up in the whole "I'll never find a guy" thing. She's only 18....someone right will come along sometime and I'm sure she won't be alone forever.

And what about Amber....do you think she's really pregnant again?

[mandib50]

i was kind of disappointed with farrah actually. i think she has come a long way but to me it sounds like she still feels entitled, which probably has a lot to do with how she was raised, because there are some odd dynamics in the family. she does seem to think she should be a teenager first, and a mother second. i don't think her mom is emotionally healthy though, but i can certainly understand why she would get frustrated with farrah. not a good situation for any of them.

i wonder how amber and gary will work out ... i'm not sure if she's pregnant or not. it seemed sort of an odd thing to bring up on tv before gary even knew about it.

i was sad for maci, i don't think that she and ryan should get back together either, unless ryan steps up to the plate and changes before they consider reuniting. but he doesn't feel sorry for treating her the way he did.

are any of you watching the new moms? i don't think i'm going to ... it's kind of a depressing show in a way.

[darcytrue]

Originally Posted by oiseau

Man, I just finished watching the finale special and it made me really upset. Dr. Drew was driving me insane. He seemed so dismissive to all of the girls, but especially Maci and Farrah. I can't believe he told Maci that she and Ryan should still try to work on their relationship!! She needs to get away from Ryan and do things for herself and Bentley. Wasting more time on Ryan just seems so stressful and awful for Maci.

I agree. I think Dr D sides with the males. Ryan humiliated Maci saying what he said to her. He is so immature. My 14 yr old son is more mature than him.

And Amber still seemed a bit snotty towards Gary IMO. I thought it was silly how she said he had to change a lot in order to come live in her home or something to that effect. I'm guessing he is now kissing her a$$. Nothing made that girl happy. But if they're happy then they're happy I guess. I think it's great if they truly are.

[ticklemegreen]

I could not stand the host! What the heck was up with him talking about how Men love there children differently than women? He said it almost like he was making excuses for Ryan being distant with Bentley. Maci loving Bentley and wanting to be with him is normal, yes, but Ryan having NO interest what so ever in his son IS NOT! DH loves Ella just as much as I do! PARENTS should have a special bond and connection to there children, not just mothers!

And I wanted to scream when Amber started making excuses for hitting Gary. There are NO excuses for hitting someone, especially your dp. She had no right. I don't think she's pregnant, I found the whole situation very odd. I might be pregnant even though we always use protection and I haven't missed my period or taken a test, um what? To make that announcement on television without discussing it with Gary was ridiculous! I think it was all about getting attention, I think Amber is definitely an attention hog.

I found it really interesting that both Maci & Ryan said that they would work things out if they were married.

[Madalyn]

Dr. Drew was really frustrating me too, especially with Maci. The whole thing about dad's not having that overwhelming love and did you see that face he made toward her toward to end of their segment? Like he scrunched his nose and shook his head like it was her fault or somehow she was to blame for how she feels about Ryan. And also Ryan calling Bentley an obligation. *pulls hair* Can we send Amber over to knock some sense into him instead of Gary lol? I have a feeling by the time he realizes what he's missing out on with Bentley it's going to be too late.

[darcytrue]

Originally Posted by ticklemegreen

I could not stand the host! What the heck was up with him talking about how Men love there children differently than women? He said it almost like he was making excuses for Ryan being distant with Bentley. Maci loving Bentley and wanting to be with him is normal, yes, but Ryan having NO interest what so ever in his son IS NOT!

I agree. some of the comments Dr. Drew made were very silly. I hope he's not a real therapist.

Originally Posted by ticklemegreen

And I wanted to scream when Amber started making excuses for hitting Gary. There are NO excuses for hitting someone, especially your dp. She had no right. I don't think she's pregnant, I found the whole situation very odd. I might be pregnant even though we always use protection and I haven't missed my period or taken a test, um what? To make that announcement on television without discussing it with Gary was ridiculous! I think it was all about getting attention, I think Amber is definitely an attention hog.

I thought Amber was showing off the entire time. She was trying hard to seem more normal than the other girls and the questions she asked each of them were so rude IMO.

[LavenderMae]

I was also wondering if Dr. Drew is an actual therapist because his advice was just inane on this show. I can't believe he was encouraging Macy to try more with Ryan. Any decent therapist would I hope have seen Ryan's behavior as abusive and not suggested Macy try harder. And all the men being so different (and incapable) crap was just on my last nerve and incredibly sexist. It does no one any favors to act like men by default can't be really good and loving parents.
Dr. Drew let Ryan off the hook basically because he's male but didn't do the same with Farrah and she's more of a parent to her child than Ryan is. Why the gross double standard, ugh!

[ticklemegreen]

Originally Posted by LavenderMae

Dr. Drew let Ryan off the hook basically because he's male but didn't do the same with Farrah and she's more of a parent to her child than Ryan is. Why the gross double standard, ugh!

I didn't even think about that! That's a good point. Makes me dislike him even more lol

[Tilia]

No kidding. So what you aren't in love with your baby? You can still help out. You can play with your child so your partner can do a couple classes, especially when she doesn't even need to leave the house. And he was calling her lazy?? What exactly did Ryan do with his time during the day?

[StoriesInTheSoil]

Dr Drew is also anti breastfeeding so I pretty much don't listen to a word he says. LOL! He is just a tv doctor anyway. He has a radio show where he gives terrible, patronizing, chauvanistic "advice" about sex and he has a celebrity rehab show on vh1.

I think it is awful how he just let Ryan off the hook. Sickening.

[Hazelnut]

He is???! That is too bad. I recall listening to him on Loveline years ago and he was actually constantly countering his sidekicks sexist comments and advice, but maybe he has changed. That's horrible what he said about breastfeeding. What you just said would have been perfect- yeah it CAN be tough. But it is certainly not impossible. And it's free too, so you'd think that would be a perk even.

[becoming]

Dr. Drew makes my head hurt. The entire episode, aside from Catelynn & Tyler, was just a train wreck.

Farrah & Ryan should hook up. They have similar parenting styles. They could leave both babies with their parents while they go out twice a week or more for SIX HOURS or more!!?! Seriously? But at least Farrah has a job, right?

Poor Gary. Amber is awful to him. Just awful. She's never satisfied.

Maci seems to be a great mom.

[darcytrue]

Originally Posted by becoming

Dr. Drew makes my head hurt. The entire episode, aside from Catelynn & Tyler, was just a train wreck.

Farrah & Ryan should hook up. They have similar parenting styles. They could leave both babies with their parents while they go out twice a week or more for SIX HOURS or more!!?! Seriously? But at least Farrah has a job, right?

Poor Gary. Amber is awful to him. Just awful. She's never satisfied.

Maci seems to be a great mom.

3 good point regarding Farrah and Ryan. Although Farrah seems to be "trying" atleast. Ryan acts like he has NO clue whatsoever. I can't believe his parents tolerate his behavior after watching the show. They must be very bad parents to raise such an uncaring and insensitive son. I'd be mortified if my son talked to anyone that way, especially the mother of his first child.

[darcytrue]

Originally Posted by Tilia

What exactly did Ryan do with his time during the day?

I've wondered about this as well. He was living off unemployment so he wasn't working.

And on the last episode where Ryan was talking to his buddies he was talking about how Maci was so bossy and controlling. She only gets on him about how to treat her and his child. What's wrong with that? All women will expect that from him in life? Doesn't he realize that? What kind of parents does this boy have as a role model...that's what I want to know.

[AnnieNimIty]

I wouldn't be so quick to jump on Ryan's parents about his personality, and behavior. Obviously they do have an influence, but really, there are people who are dense almost regardless of what they are shown.
Saying that that Ryan's parent's are the reason for his lack of ... well responsibility and etc is like saying that Tyler's dad did a great job raising him. Yeah his mom is in the picture but you get the idea.
Good people raise bad kids, and bad parents can raise good kids.

[ticklemegreen]

Originally Posted by AnnieNimIty

I wouldn't be so quick to jump on Ryan's parents about his personality, and behavior. Obviously they do have an influence, but really, there are people who are dense almost regardless of what they are shown.
Saying that that Ryan's parent's are the reason for his lack of ... well responsibility and etc is like saying that Tyler's dad did a great job raising him. Yeah his mom is in the picture but you get the idea.
Good people raise bad kids, and bad parents can raise good kids.

From what they've shown on Teen Mom, Ryan's parents are trying to get him moving in the right direction.

[Hazelnut]

I didn't see where Drew talked to Ryan, but I did see him talk to Farrrah, and I didn't think he really got on her case either. I think his approach is directional but not overbearing. He brought up the issues with her and kind of let it go, where I felt like she kind of needed to be beat over the head with the obvious a little more. I'm curious now as to what he said to Ryan. I saw the episode where he basically called her lazy and Maci didn't take the bait. What a jerk.

[darcytrue]

Originally Posted by AnnieNimIty

I wouldn't be so quick to jump on Ryan's parents about his personality, and behavior. Obviously they do have an influence, but really, there are people who are dense almost regardless of what they are shown.
Saying that that Ryan's parent's are the reason for his lack of ... well responsibility and etc is like saying that Tyler's dad did a great job raising him. Yeah his mom is in the picture but you get the idea.
Good people raise bad kids, and bad parents can raise good kids.

that's partly true. But have you seen Ryan's house? and Maci's parents house? Both families have very nice homes. They seem very well off. Ryan just reminds me of a snobby boy that needs to grow up. In fact, it's very obvious the way he talks to Maci on the show. I don't think what I'm saying is THAT off base. It's all shown by his behavior.

[darcytrue]

Originally Posted by ticklemegreen

From what they've shown on Teen Mom, Ryan's parents are trying to get him moving in the right direction.

when? The only time I've noticed that they even showed Ryans parents was when his dad was talking to him about needing to find a job soon because of his unemployment running out and when the guy came from the trucking company to talk about a job working for him and Ryan was a complete rude jerk concerning that job interview. I've never once seen an episode where Ryans parents talk to him about how he treats his child and Maci.