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My 3 yo (born 31.5 wks) expressed sadness over her birth

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Just some background...My twins were born at 31.5 weeks by cesarean (breech) after DS's membranes has been ruptured for 75 hours and I was in active labor.

The other day it was DH's birthday and DD and I were preparing his birthday dinner. I'm a RN in a birth center and she loves to hear stories about babies births. After telling several stories she said, "I want to be in your tummy still. I want to be back in the water." Then she went on to say that "My brother came out because he had to, but I wasn't ready. I wanted to stay in the water for a lot longer" (her membranes were not ruptured). Then she got all sad and just couldn't stop hugging me. My heart sank, as I naturally wasn't expecting this, nor did I know she was aware of who was born first (him) and why. I did suddenly feel guilty for feeling annoyed by all her excessively clingy behavior.

As a preemie, her twin was ready for discharge well before her and after him coming out of thier crib for one night, she sunk. Her behavior was of the failure to thrive type (refusing to nurse or open mouth for bottle), but she did thrive because we had to keep her with an NG for another month after she came home. She appeared to have no trust whatsoever as a preemie and it took lots of extremely consistent care to get her to open to the world (and to literally open her mouth to eat), and she didn't even take to nursing until 3 months old. But then she seemed great, like she had pulled through some sort of newborn/preemie depression. Oddly, for the first 2.5 years of her life, she would absolutely freak out by anything that gave her the experience of floating (floaties, rafts, floating docks, etc). I had always sensed it was related to her birth and let her explore floating on her own. Look what happened the last time she was floating (in the womb)...she was abruptly yanked out by a surgeon and wisked into the NICU. She needed intubation and surfactant to breathe. Interesting, she *loves* water and is now learning to swim and will use floating devices, but it absolutely must be on her terms. Her control issues are extreme.

All interesting and I could go on and on with the connections I see in behaviors with birth, but my question is, how can we help our children work through their birth trauma? I know their is no one simple ceremony or symbolic act that can even touch upon the pain and loss they have experienced but there must be something we can do to help.

We passionately practice attachment parenting and I'm committed to child-led-weaning (which we're no where close to yet), but what else? Today we played "birth" by cuddling the kids into a bean bag (the womb) and covering with a blanket, and I'd say, okay, you can be born when ever you choose, and they'd take turns popping out from under the banket. I'd hug them and say, "welcome little one! I've drempt of you my whole life! I'm so happy to have you here!". We did this over and over and over. It felt good, even for me since I was never able to embrace them and cuddle them after birth like I had dreamed I would.
post #2 of 13
Hi DoubleLove
My younger dd had some birth issues to work out- sort of similar to yours. I lost a twin early in the pregnancy so dd came out on her own but seemed sad and disconnected.
I work with a great physical therapist who also does cranio-sacral work as well as Reiki. I took dd there as an infant and the practitioner really helped to change dd's energy/attitude.

Now dd is 2 1/2. She talks a little bit about missing "her friend" it spooks me sometimes because I've not talked to her about her lost brother/sister.

It all gets a little woo-woo for me but it made such a difference. I'm not sure how it helped but it did.
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Your post made me all teary. It's so hard for me to know which of my girls' behaviors are due to their prematurity. Do they want to sleep with me every night because of the 9 weeks of separation they endured, or just because they're my children? Does Katie burrow her feet under me maniacally as she falls asleep because she craves closeness after being ripped from my body at 29 weeks, or just because she has cold feet? Are they more snuggly than the average 3-year-old just because they have snuggly parents, or is it because they were born early and have a lot of missed snuggles to make up for? I rarely get as straightforward a sign as you got from your daughter, and I can only imagine how difficult that was for you to hear.
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OMG- Those are amazing stories. It really makes me believe in an after life – and perhaps a “pre-life” too. I got all tingly reading them. I can’t wait until my kids are old enough to talk about that kind of stuff.
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Originally Posted by OGirlieMama View Post
Your post made me all teary. It's so hard for me to know which of my girls' behaviors are due to their prematurity. Do they want to sleep with me every night because of the 9 weeks of separation they endured, or just because they're my children? Does Katie burrow her feet under me maniacally as she falls asleep because she craves closeness after being ripped from my body at 29 weeks, or just because she has cold feet? Are they more snuggly than the average 3-year-old just because they have snuggly parents, or is it because they were born early and have a lot of missed snuggles to make up for? I rarely get as straightforward a sign as you got from your daughter, and I can only imagine how difficult that was for you to hear.
I have been thinking about this and I want to say that I'll bet those extra cuddles aren't from any memory of their premature birth but rather the product of your parenting. We preemie parents realize how fragile life can be from the very beginning of our children's lives... a lesson many parents never get. I'd like to think we're a bit more aware of just how lucky we are and our parenting styles are informed by that... including extra cuddles.. also, preemies get a lot of AP from the moment we can hold them... with a healthier child it is easy to not respond to every single whimper the way a preemie parent does.

OGirlieMama, your girls know they are loved wholeheartedly, and that is what matters the most!
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I have been thinking about this and I want to say that I'll bet those extra cuddles aren't from any memory of their premature birth but rather the product of your parenting. We preemie parents realize how fragile life can be from the very beginning of our children's lives... a lesson many parents never get. I'd like to think we're a bit more aware of just how lucky we are and our parenting styles are informed by that... including extra cuddles.. also, preemies get a lot of AP from the moment we can hold them... with a healthier child it is easy to not respond to every single whimper the way a preemie parent does.

OGirlieMama, your girls know they are loved wholeheartedly, and that is what matters the most!
I love this and I agree wholeheartedly. It's so easy to get negative and depressed with the way my child entered the world -- but I just have to remind myself of how lucky I am to have him in my arms -- I can't take for granted how it could have very easily ended in tragedy.
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My son (a 29 weeker who is now 23 months old) hates loud noises and hissing sounds. He is incredibly disturbed by machines like vacuum cleaners, blenders, and hair dryers. He talks a lot about things that are "loud", many of which aren't actually that loud at all, but sort of hissing or continuous in nature. I can't help but wonder if he is reminded of the sounds of machinery in the NICU when he hears those "loud" things.

I've often wondered what the legacy of his NICU stay would be, but it wasn't until now that I considered it might be something other than developmental. :-/
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Originally Posted by jennchsm View Post
My son (a 29 weeker who is now 23 months old) hates loud noises and hissing sounds. He is incredibly disturbed by machines like vacuum cleaners, blenders, and hair dryers. He talks a lot about things that are "loud", many of which aren't actually that loud at all, but sort of hissing or continuous in nature. I can't help but wonder if he is reminded of the sounds of machinery in the NICU when he hears those "loud" things.

I've often wondered what the legacy of his NICU stay would be, but it wasn't until now that I considered it might be something other than developmental. :-/
Lilly was born at 29 weeks and she is now four. She also hates "loud" noises (and most of them aren't loud). One thing that I always wonder about is whether or not the fact that she hates being held or cuddled has anything to do with her being a preemie. Even when she was tiny, she would try and push away if people cuddled her. We did lots of kangaroo care, but maybe spending so much of her early moments alone in a box instead of being curled up in the womb, made her prefer not being held close.

Or she could just be someone who likes their own personal space and it doesn't have anything to do with being a preemie, but I will never know for sure.
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I love this and I agree wholeheartedly. It's so easy to get negative and depressed with the way my child entered the world -- but I just have to remind myself of how lucky I am to have him in my arms -- I can't take for granted how it could have very easily ended in tragedy.
Absolutely.

I won't fault myself for holding DD a little closer a little longer, because we both feel the memory of the NICU and our separation and what might or might not have been. We dodged a bullet together. (Figuratively, of course.)
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by yogafeet View Post
I have been thinking about this and I want to say that I'll bet those extra cuddles aren't from any memory of their premature birth but rather the product of your parenting. We preemie parents realize how fragile life can be from the very beginning of our children's lives... a lesson many parents never get. I'd like to think we're a bit more aware of just how lucky we are and our parenting styles are informed by that... including extra cuddles.. also, preemies get a lot of AP from the moment we can hold them... with a healthier child it is easy to not respond to every single whimper the way a preemie parent does.

OGirlieMama, your girls know they are loved wholeheartedly, and that is what matters the most!
I like this outlook better than mine.
post #11 of 13
We've done cranio-sacral therapy with a physical therapist for our kids, particularly for Zeph who was born at 31 weeks. He had some birth trauma as well. My water had been ruptured for almost 2 weeks and my active labor was crazy fast. The OB ended up forcefully holding his head in through several contractions while the NICU team got ready. This caused little man some neck and head issues.

The cranio-sacral therapy was able to help him sort of be "reborn", physically going through the motions his body should have done when he was born. This relieved a lot of pain and helped him to be a happier little baby. We did this when he was very young...starting in the NICU (unknown to the docs) at about 34 weeks and then again at home about once a month.
post #12 of 13
I'm fascinated by everyone's responses. My 4.5 yr old told me once when he was around 2.5 or so about his birth...and again last year...

He remembered coming out and told me how it was all red and dark inside...and then suddenly it was all cold and bright....and he showed me w/his arms waving in the air how he yelled and screamed in "the box" (incubator) and "tried to get out", but I couldn't hear him b/c I was sad and asleep.

We talked about how Daddy was right there and helped take care of him and made sure he was safe, and about how they had to put the tube in his lungs to help him breathe. We talked about why I was "asleep" and couldn't hold him, in easy not-too-scary terms. And I told him who saw him first and checked in on him, to remind him of all the people that love him and were there for him. We just talked about it. He didn't seem that upset, but more wanted to share it while he remembered. It was very much a spontaneous discussion both times.

Thanks for bringing this up!

mrsfru
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We did this when he was very young...starting in the NICU (unknown to the docs).


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