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post #21 of 63
I still havent heard from my friend, but I wll let you know as soon as I find out.

Actually if you think about, the Gold Label process does sound kind of unsanitary. Sure "fermented" is great, but lettting 3rd world countries (please don't take offense by this statement), make their own share of the coconut oil and letting it sit out to ferment, who knows how much quality control is going on. You see there has to be alot made since TT is a big producer of cocnut oil, and how many people make it and can TT monitor it all?

People have given Dave at Green Pastures greif about his fermenting process for cod liver oil and he has strict standards and is a one place company.

Just some thoughts!
post #22 of 63
I am not trying to promote this oil at all but here is a place that is selling fermented coconut oil and I have talked to the owner and they are a more strict quality control company:
http://www.laureece.com/
anyone hear of it?
post #23 of 63
I have never heard this of this about the TT oil. We liked it, but we have been ordering from Mountain Rose for a few years and prefer this. It is a high quality oil that meets all of our standards and is SO cheap when we order it by the 5 gal bucket. This provides our years worth of oil for like $170 (I think... I need to go order more).

When we first started ordering it from MR we ordered with a small group of friends and split the bulk cost and oil amongst us.

post #24 of 63
I feel the same. No contest between MRH and TT. I have never heard it before either. It's quite possible, I've just never heard it before.
post #25 of 63
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
if it's expeller pressed there's no flavor. Virgin CO has a VERY coconutty flavor.
Do you still get the same health benefits of coconut oil when it is expeller pressed and not virgin?
post #26 of 63
I got an email back about the fermented coconut oil. The website he provided is very good and I know I have much reading ahead of me. Really opens my eyes of the different worlds of coconut oil. By the way, I am not promoting any kinds of coconut oil. And the friend who sent this to me is very traditional foods based and promotes other kinds of fermented foods such as kefir, and lacto fermented veggies. So his opinion comes from a very good background:

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Dear,

Good coconut oil now-a-days are picked that morning and goes through the whole process the entire day and becomes coconut milk and coconut oil by the end of the day. The old fashion, they scoop out the flesh, sun dry it, ferment it with flies in the meantime landing on it and crawling over it, and the oil ends up looking a little yellowish and to say nothing about the sanitation significant amounts of nutrition is really lost.

Just go on to www.coconutoil-online.com 800-922-1744 and they have, in my opinion, the most modern, clean, facility that happens to have organic coconut oil by default. The people are too poor in the neighboring area to purchase any fertilizers. They simply go out in the 100,000 hectares of wild growing coconut, pick it and bring it to the factory.

Sincerely,
Thoughts? Opinions?
post #27 of 63
I believe the less processed and closer to nature the more nutrients. I'm fine with flies and fermented, hand-picked coconuts.

The two big benefits of coconut oil that I know of are that it is a medium chain fatty acid which has specific health benefits for gut healing. And it is heat stable at high temperatures.

Pat
post #28 of 63
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Originally Posted by CageFreeFamily View Post
I have never heard this of this about the TT oil. We liked it, but we have been ordering from Mountain Rose for a few years and prefer this. It is a high quality oil that meets all of our standards and is SO cheap when we order it by the 5 gal bucket. This provides our years worth of oil for like $170 (I think... I need to go order more).
OMG, A 5 gallon bucket would take up half the space in my kitchen! LOL.
post #29 of 63
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Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1 View Post
I got an email back about the fermented coconut oil. The website he provided is very good and I know I have much reading ahead of me. Really opens my eyes of the different worlds of coconut oil. By the way, I am not promoting any kinds of coconut oil. And the friend who sent this to me is very traditional foods based and promotes other kinds of fermented foods such as kefir, and lacto fermented veggies. So his opinion comes from a very good background:



Thoughts? Opinions?
Thanks for sharing the link - never heard of that company (is this something I could research forever?!?! but I need to feel well informed to ask DH to shell out more $ for another new TF diet thing)
post #30 of 63
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Originally Posted by onetrumpeter View Post
ooooy. I've got lots to learn and I feel like all I've been doing for 30 min is researching coconut oil, lol! Thanks. I was thinking virgin=expeller. Obviously NOT - lol! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by bright_eyes View Post
Do you still get the same health benefits of coconut oil when it is expeller pressed and not virgin?
This is right where I am atm Could someone please explain for dummies? It seems all I can find here is expeller expressed.
post #31 of 63
I'm right here with y'all. I tried a little thing of Spectrum and it got me hooked on coconut oil. It's long since gone and I already ordered a gallon of oil from The Vitamin Shoppe but they screwed up my order and I cancelled it, and maybe that's just as well.

So now my head is spinning as I consider:

Tropical Traditions / Expeller-Pressed Coconut Oil
http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/ex...oconut_oil.htm
SALE till Jan 10!! 2 gallons for $55! Now that is a good deal. It's not certified but the site implies that it's grown without pesticides (dunno how much I trust that claim). I don't need certification but it's different when I'm talking to a farmer locally and visiting the farm etc. versus ordering online from another country.

So then I look at their FAQ
http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/fa...r_coconut_oils
It does a nice job upselling you to their green label. I don't have a clue about "taste and scent of fresh coconuts." The Spectrum jar I got smelled like coconuts and I loved it. I would be disappointed if I got an oil that was completely tasteless.

So I take a look at their green label product.

Tropical Traditions / Green Label Virgin Coconut Oil - Certified Organic
http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/vi...conut_oil2.htm
$68.50 for a gallon.

Then I read on this thread about Mountain Rose

Mountain Rose Herbs / Coconut Oil (Virgin Unrefined)
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bul....php#oac_coc_u
$37.00 for a gallon. Wow, also a good deal.

I dunno, guys. The latter is virgin and not expeller-pressed. While $55 for 2 gallons is the CHEAPEST I've seen by far, y'all might have sold me on Mountain Rose Herbs.
post #32 of 63
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Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1 View Post
Someone told me that TT gold label was unhealthy and unsanitary, and to get the green label. Any thoughts?
Hmmmm...I'd like to know about this now. When I first began using CO, I researched this, and came up with the plan I have now, but if this is wrong, I want to know.

Basically I buy two kinds of CO from TT. I buy what they call the gold label because I thought this was the one that was supposed to be the supreme healthiest, because it is not refined and it is organic. It's a black label with a gold seal-thing on it. This is what I use any time I don't mind the coconut taste. I have even been putting a few spoonfuls of this in our smoothies for the health benefits. This is the one:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/vi...oconut_oil.htm


Then I also buy the expeller pressed, for those times when I am making something that I don't want the coconut taste in. I figure that this is still good, and I am still getting some benefits from it, but I still opt for the gold label when I can. The expeller pressed I buy has a white label and green writing, and I get the certified organic one here:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/ex...oconut_oil.htm


So, someone, please enlighten me on the details. It is pretty expensive but that was what I thought the best options are.
post #33 of 63
Oh and one more thing, the gold label from TT is not in any way "yellowish". It is just as white and pure looking as the refined expeller pressed. In fact I cannot tell the difference unless I taste it or smell it very closely.
post #34 of 63
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OMG, A 5 gallon bucket would take up half the space in my kitchen! LOL.
Ha! Me too. When we were living on the RV it occupied our shower, and now that were in our cabin it lives in the bathroom as a toddler stepstool.

I never experienced a yellow batch of TT gold label either. We switched to MRH because it was comparable at a waaaay more affordable price. We use CO exclusively for everything from cooking to smoothies, butter substitute, oil pulling, moisturizer and cast iron care.

post #35 of 63
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Originally Posted by CageFreeFamily View Post
Ha! Me too. When we were living on the RV it occupied our shower, and now that were in our cabin it lives in the bathroom as a toddler stepstool.

I never experienced a yellow batch of TT gold label either. We switched to MRH because it was comparable at a waaaay more affordable price. We use CO exclusively for everything from cooking to smoothies, butter substitute, oil pulling, moisturizer and cast iron care.

Do you use the refined or the unrefined, or both?
post #36 of 63
My first batch was from Spectrum as well. I didn't like it, I ended up using it for skin stuff rather than cooking with it or supplementing with it. Now I either buy Mountain Rose Herbs virgin coconut oil or Nutiva. I really like both brands. I haven't tried the TT brand yet. . .just because I'm so satisfied with MRH and Nutiva. I buy my Nutiva from Vitacost. . .$4.99 shipping is nice when you're overseas (on a base).
post #37 of 63
Only the unrefined
post #38 of 63
I'm doing a CO comparison. I just ordered from TT (Since all this controversy over the gold label I got the green label---Still all the good stuff, unrefined, virgin, etc, just not fermented, it's machine pressed), I got a Nutiva at the co-op which I like so far but it is "gritty" which I didn't expect, and I ordered one from Wilderness Family Naturals. I figured trying the smallest size of each shouldn't break the bank and let me have a bit of perspective before buying in bulk.

I didn't try MRH because when I went on their site I couldn't figure out which was the CO everyone was talking about. The one on there looked like for body care, and did not say all the "virgin, unrefined, organic" specifications. Was I looking in the wrong place?
post #39 of 63
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth2008 View Post
OMG, A 5 gallon bucket would take up half the space in my kitchen! LOL.
My kitchen is 8 feet by 6 feet including all appliances(fridge, stove, sink, counters, etc) - I keep 4 bookshelves elsewhere in my house for my food storage! I would NOT be able to eat a tf(ish), gluten free, dairy free diet if I kept everything in the kitchen. I would barely be able to eat at all!
post #40 of 63
OMG, so glad I read this thread. I was planning on ordering from Nutiva this month, since I'm fed up with buying little jars here and there at the HFS for too much money. I'm glad to hear about MRH! I have bought herbs for tea from them in the past and welcome another chance to buy their products. The oil to get must be the 'virgin unrefined' for $37/gal? That one says it is suitable for food use. What's the shipping like?
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