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The myth of Selectively Vaccinating?

post #1 of 25
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I'm confused. This is what I wanted to do. I wanted to wait until he was five and then maybe do a couple of the ones we think are necessary. I thought by choosing to homeschool we didn't have to worry about it. Wrong. Turns out once we report he has to have the same vaxes he needs to go to public school. If we file a Religious exemption then we can't ever get any vaxes again and I plan on having quite a few more children. So it appears to be ALL or NOTHING which doesn't really seem very constitutional. Even Dr. Sears has his delayed/selective schedule for parents who would otherwise not vax at all. Where would you be able to follow this? It just seems silly to have it be and all or nothing because then they are pushing parents who would have chosen some vaxes to choosing no vaxes. But I digress from my orginal point and question.

So is this true? Is it really all or nothing? Am I missing something?

Thanks!
post #2 of 25
Yes, it's pretty true...the only other thing you can do is cross state lines and be sure that you have opted out of your state registry (if possible).
post #3 of 25
This may not be much help, but I would check your state's compulsory school age. It would at least buy you some time.

If your state allows a philosophical exception or leaves the language for a religious exemptions open (like it says: personal beliefs like that of a religion) then you may be able to get around it, saying you don't believe all vaccines are necessary and you don't believe any are necessary before a certain age. It may not get you far, but it's worth a try.
post #4 of 25
I think sears schedule eventually does every vax on the schedule...and does them by school age anyway.

The book tells you which are not important and which are most dangerous...then tells you when you should get them
post #5 of 25
I think you could do the ones you want to at the Health Dept and then have a change of religion. Hmmm tricky situation. Which ones were you considering? We did change our mind and claimed a religious exemption, but the vaccines were done in a different state b/c we moved.
post #6 of 25
There are plenty of parents who chose one or two vaccine and they used an exemption anyway. I think that's why they created "the registry".

But then you have to figure if a child lives healthy until the age of 5, there is little value in missing with his health. He'll never be that healthy again after injecting toxins. jmho
post #7 of 25
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There are plenty of parents who chose one or two vaccine and they used an exemption anyway. I think that's why they created "the registry".

But then you have to figure if a child lives healthy until the age of 5, there is little value in missing with his health. He'll never be that healthy again after injecting toxins. jmho
Really? THere are? That gives me some hope. Do you just have to have an understandng ped?

What is the registry? Must research this.

and yes, I do agree with you in a way. I haven't completely made up my mind but I am appalled by the lack of choice.
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm View Post
I think sears schedule eventually does every vax on the schedule...and does them by school age anyway.

The book tells you which are not important and which are most dangerous...then tells you when you should get them
He has two schedules. One gets you all of them and the other doesn't but I can't find the book to be certain.
post #9 of 25
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We will probably end up in PA. The reporting age is 8.
post #10 of 25
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does anybody know if you can claim religious exemption to just the ones that use aborted fetuses and hep b because of its sexual nature?
post #11 of 25
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does anybody know if you can claim religious exemption to just the ones that use aborted fetuses and hep b because of its sexual nature?
No. That is considered philosophical. To be a religious exemption, you have to be opposed to the practice of vaccination, not the vaccines themselves.
post #12 of 25
In Vermont people pick and choose and it isn't a problem. But Vermont is one of the saner states around.
post #13 of 25
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In Vermont people pick and choose and it isn't a problem. But Vermont is one of the saner states around.
It's not a problem in MD, either.
post #14 of 25
Once you file a religious exemption for one child, any additional vaccines for that child would invalidate the exemption for that child (presuming they cross-check between the registry and the exemptions they've received). But at a practical level, I'm not sure they are able to cross-check vaccination status between children in the same family. Maybe they'll add that capability in the future, but I'm not sure they do it now.

Some states do allow pick-and-choose philosophical exemptions, so everyone needs to check their own state laws (and support rational changes to state law).
post #15 of 25
Not a problem in Michigan either. When you sign the exemption form, you can list which vaccines you are opting out of.
post #16 of 25
Texas also makes it easy for non or selective vaxers. On the exemption form, you check which vaccines you don't want.
post #17 of 25
most schools where i am (california) dont double check to see if children have not gotten a vaccine. if you tell them you dont vax, they take your word on it and you just dont have to fill out the card.
maybe its different here though than where you are? i mean, i doubt your ped is going to call the school or state and tattle on you if you say your not vaxing and still get a few.
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by Harmony08 View Post
does anybody know if you can claim religious exemption to just the ones that use aborted fetuses and hep b because of its sexual nature?
Actually, from what I understand, a religious exemption must be used to show opposment to ALL vaccines. To be opposed to vaccines that use aborted fetal cells would be a philisophical exemption, and cannot apply to all.
post #19 of 25
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/sta...nsylvania.aspx

I have no idea if your state has a registry. You can opt out of it, right? Also ask around in finding your tribe. I've found family practioners to be better about this issue than PED. What vaccines are you thinking of doing? If it is just like tetanus, maybe you could just get that one done at the health department. That is what one dr would have us do, b/c they didn't actually do the shots at their office. It is going to look better imo if you stop vax completely after declaring exempt.
post #20 of 25
we enrolled dd1 in ps k. She went for about 2 months, now we are back to hsing and plan to hs for many years. When I filled out the enrollment forms, I lied, and said she did not have any VAX, even though she did have a few, but not all. Its not like the school is allowed to access my kids medical files.... so besides me telling them what vax, they would never know otherwise.
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