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post #81 of 91
Really, it's like those harness backpacks. You can use them and have the child get 5-10ft of safe exploring space as you go for walks, or you can make them hold your hand all the time, or you can make them hold onto the stroller and get put into the stroller if they let go for an instant. Those harnesses are "bad/lazy parenting" in some books too.

When did our society (as represented by your relatives RocketGirl) get the insane notion that quality of parenting is directly proportional to the number of times a parent says "no"?
post #82 of 91
I've heard of moms doing that before.
post #83 of 91
Hehe. I have a 13 month old and babysit several toddlers. I put the tree on the train table and no one touches it. They play with their cars, trucks, and trains on the train table under the tree.

But I can't see making fun of someone for taking extra precaution. I did joke that "I put up a festive winter tree now I need a festive winter electric fence."
post #84 of 91
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
Really, it's like those harness backpacks. You can use them and have the child get 5-10ft of safe exploring space as you go for walks, or you can make them hold your hand all the time, or you can make them hold onto the stroller and get put into the stroller if they let go for an instant. Those harnesses are "bad/lazy parenting" in some books too.

When did our society (as represented by your relatives RocketGirl) get the insane notion that quality of parenting is directly proportional to the number of times a parent says "no"?
I think it's more the idea that you're a great parent if you only have to say no once, and your kid listens. The thing that people forget when they're judging other parents' techniques is that all kids are so different. My kids don't touch the Christmas tree really, has nothing to do with my parenting skills, they just aren't interested. So I don't need a gate around the tree. My first was a bolter and it didn't matter what I did or how much I redirected, he did not want to stick by me, so I put a fence around the yard. Doesn't make me a bad or lazy parent, just smart
post #85 of 91
I agree. I live in France and French parents are not very safety-conscience. They're really into the word "no". They're constantly scolding their children. I find it irritating and my American ears get tired of hearing it over and over. Whenever I recommend something like "Why don't you put it away?" or "Maybe he's not yet ready for..." I hear them screach "...but he must LEARN!" For crying out loud, they still have time...

This is culturally considered "good parenting" in France. With a very active child, I find they are fighting the child's basic personality and instincts. Two little girls we know are very active and their moms are exausted dishing out their constant tirades. My sister-in-law used to call my mother-in-law in tears over something her dd had done. This can't be a pleasant way to parent!

I'm happy to hear all this support for the OP. I wish I had thought of that! We don't have an X-mas tree but my parents do and I remember walking in the door and we knew it would be a challenge with my oldest as a toddler. If I had thought of it, I could have simply asked them to borrow a baby gate and we would have had a more relaxed holiday. We could have just removed it for the photos and present opening.
post #86 of 91
[QUOTE=mommajb;14802943]
... Good thing as my sneaky kids ate the gingerbread men one limb at a time.
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My sister and I did that too. We also broke off pieces of candy cane.
post #87 of 91
This year I have a very "touchy" 4 year old, a very "push the limits" 6 year old and a "I don't have to listen to you" 2 year old and our kitten who still has her front claws and tries to climb our tree, so the only decoration on our tree this year is silver and red garland. We decided not to mess with the other ornaments that couldn't be replaced as easily. It's very pretty and clean. If my living room was bigger I would have loved to gate it off, at least from the kids. It just doesn't seem the same without my decorations made from christmas' past by my older kids. But for now they are just safer in storage in the basement.
post #88 of 91
You're not the only one! I think some people gate off the whole room, but we have a tiny living room. Last year we gated off the tree. This year, we used wires to attach the tree to the wall so it can't tip over, but no gate. The youngest is old enough to touch lower hanging, non-fragile, ornaments but I would worry about climbing attempts.

As for "we never needed to" comments, my parents never did these things, but my younger brothers nearly pulled over a tree twice that I recall, and actually pulled it over once, and I'd like to avoid that!
post #89 of 91
if i had one i would
post #90 of 91
My mom said she put up the Christmas tree in a playpen before--then garlanded the edges as well (must have been for baby me, because I don't remember this...).
post #91 of 91
The year my brother was two, my father drilled 17 holes in the ceiling to find a stud, put an eyehook in the ceiling and wired the tree to the ceiling.
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