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can't argue with that

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Just wanted to share a lovely conversation I had last night

Dh got a letter from our Representative asking for suggestions to bring to the floor in January... quite a bit of it was a form about health care. I had "mixed company" over, some know how vocal I am about RIC, some had no clue.

Anyway, I popped on here to get some ideas on how to word a response (wanted to write it right then so I didn't forget with the holidays here)... So, everyone was asking what was so important. I told them I was writing to try to get unnecessary cosmetic surgery defunded in our state (KY, one of the highest rates).

Of course one of the guys gave me this look We'll call him C. Everyone there was in their later 20's, hubby was there. All of us are parents or uncles and care about children deeply.

Me: What do you think about circumcision?
C: Well, I never really gave it much thought.
Me: I firmly believe it is unnecessary surgery on an unconsenting minor.
C: Hm... I can see both sides of it, I guess.
Me: What sides?
C: That it's surgery, but that it's also "cleaner."
Me: You know the "cleaner" thing is a myth, right?
C: How so?
Me: You can cut off your fingers and your fingernails would be a whole lot cleaner.
C: Well, can't argue with that. Never thought about it that way. So, why do they do it then?

And the conversation went on and got better from there

Keep talking about it, intactivists! Every little seed that's planted makes the awareness grow.
post #2 of 6
Oh come on, you have to write down the WHOLE conversation, not just a teaser!!!

I'm thrilled and love to hear about the "awakening" moments of others!

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I really believe it is SO good to plant those seeds before the emotional stress of an impending child. It seems to be easier for people(especially men) to think logically about a hypothetical future child, instead of waiting until they are freaked out about becoming a father and all of the REAL responsibility. Good Job!
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I really believe it is SO good to plant those seeds before the emotional stress of an impending child. It seems to be easier for people(especially men) to think logically about a hypothetical future child, instead of waiting until they are freaked out about becoming a father and all of the REAL responsibility. Good Job!
Exactly!

I've been talking a lot to my sister NOW because she is planning on TTC next year. I know her DH's family is very vocally pro circ. Her SIL has an intact son and she regularly gets all kinds of crap about it. (Her ILs are really weirdly interested in the family's penises. The family BRAGS about all of the boy's/men's penis sizes, enough that I have heard it. Creepy and way TMI. But on the other hand you would think that anybody that proud about this stuff would not want to cut anything off and make things smaller. )

I feel like it can become a way too emotionally charged discussion with a pregnant couple. But when it's all hypothetical the facts tend to be a little easier to get across.
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Exactly!

I've been talking a lot to my sister NOW because she is planning on TTC next year. I know her DH's family is very vocally pro circ. Her SIL has an intact son and she regularly gets all kinds of crap about it. (Her ILs are really weirdly interested in the family's penises. The family BRAGS about all of the boy's/men's penis sizes, enough that I have heard it. Creepy and way TMI. But on the other hand you would think that anybody that proud about this stuff would not want to cut anything off and make things smaller. )

I feel like it can become a way too emotionally charged discussion with a pregnant couple. But when it's all hypothetical the facts tend to be a little easier to get across.
you know the fact that your BIL's sister already has an intact boy is a good point for you as you talk to them.
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Exactly!

I've been talking a lot to my sister NOW because she is planning on TTC next year. I know her DH's family is very vocally pro circ. Her SIL has an intact son and she regularly gets all kinds of crap about it. (Her ILs are really weirdly interested in the family's penises. The family BRAGS about all of the boy's/men's penis sizes, enough that I have heard it. Creepy and way TMI. But on the other hand you would think that anybody that proud about this stuff would not want to cut anything off and make things smaller. )

I feel like it can become a way too emotionally charged discussion with a pregnant couple. But when it's all hypothetical the facts tend to be a little easier to get across.
Haha! That is creepy! I have had people comment on the size of my son's penis and it always kinda creeped me out. My mom's elderly neighbor cracked me up though. She says "Wow! He's got a LONG little mister!"

I agree though, if her SIL has an intact son that could be used as an example that things don't have to be a certain way and all that jazz...
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