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I am not happy about my OB care!

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
So I am doing care with an OB the only reason is because I would like my Quad Screen and the u/s @18 weeks. I did the same last pregnancy and did dual care with my midwife and stopped seeing the OB (different OB) after I got my u/s. This is really the only OB around here I would see, as he is a straight-shooter and no BS kind of guy. As in he won't lie to me about his intentions. I also trust his competence as a dr as there are a lot of them I wouldn't trust to handle a rock around here! We do not agree on a lot of things..obviously..haha... Its getting harder to do this the longer I go...I feel so passionately about the rights I have as a woman and only want to do the things I feel is right for me and my baby.

That being said...my OB has been pushing the H1N1 vaccine on me the past two visits and two days ago I went in for my 12w appt. He again pushed me and then made some snide comments like "Well no one has died from it!" And I see you DID get the flu so you would have blamed that on the vaccine if you had gotten it!" I am totally against the vaccine...I don't feel like I should be pushed. There was some other comments said in relevance to me not wanting the GD test either...but its so long to type everything so you get the idea. By that point in the exam I was done and wanted to leave. I was so upset that I didn't stand up for myself that day. I just left feeling ashamed that I didn't say anything and upset for being treated like that.

I called him the next day and really told him how I felt. We talked, argued and even debated....he feels that I am being dangerous by choosing to try for a VBAC after two c/s. He also thinks its "dangerous health practices" by not getting certain tests..especially the GD. I told him he was just looking for a problem...pregnancy isn't a illness. I think the GD test is dangerous and told him why... He told me that my midwife was a horrible healthcare provider for letting me labor for two days before going to a hospital...that I could have ruptured. I told him there was nothing wrong with laboring for two days and that I was closely monitored the whole time. He acts like if I have a rupture me and the baby will just spontaneously die and have no symptoms. And I'm pretty sure he gets his figures from ACOG...stating that I now have a 1 in 50 chance of rupture and just how much more dangerous that is than c/s which of course I think the total opposite.*rolls eyes*

We finally ended the conversation agreeing to disagree but that he will respect me and honor my wishes and beliefs and not push me or make comments again.

I've stewed over this for two days now and while I think a lot of what he had to say was skewed and BS as he is a OB and therefore will probably never understand in a million years that there are ways better for the birthing mother that he will never know as a dr...he has planted a small seed of doubt and fear in me. Its going to take some time to get myself back on track and I already feel a little better but now I'm saying well...what if? I mean, I always try to play the "what if" scenarios in my head because I want to prepare myself for any emergency that may arise and I usually can look at it objectively and not be frightened about it...just that its something to prepare myself for....but now I'm wondering about my uterus and thinking things like placental abruption and wondering where my placenta is located....hoping its not on my scar.

My uterus tore slightly with my last c/s when they were pulling her out...I hear thats a pretty normal thing but this conversation with my doctor has made me think about it.

I think I just need to hear some encouragement at the moment. I need to grow a tougher skin because if I want these tests I'm going to have to deal with a doctor and I'm always going to hear something negative about me being a "VBAC." Otherwise its going to mean I will have to forgo these tests that I feel is important to me and see my midwife...which I'm planning to start dual care soon anyway. ASAP I think...

Sorry this is long...its just been bothering me and I need somebody to talk to about it.
post #2 of 8
I'm sorry you're having such trouble with your OB. Personally, I stay away from all the genetic blood testing during pregnancy. Is there a particular reason why you want the quad screen? As for the u/s can't your midwife refer you? I've had a CNM and CPM both able to refer me to a radiology clinic where the u/s was covered by my insurance. If that's not possible for some reason, then perhaps you could "miss" your next OB appointment and just go in for the sono at 18 weeks. It's not unheard of to go 6 weeks between appointments. Then request your medical records be transferred to your midwife. Maybe? Good luck!
post #3 of 8
Well, you can go for the U/S & blood work, do the follow up consult wtih your OB and never see him again, right? And you can arrange to NOT see him until after your testing is done, correct? I'd just do that. Then you can find out placenta placement and the results from the quad without having to see him any more than absolutely necessary.

And i hear you on the seed of doubt thing. I got fired by my OB after refusing starting routine cervical checks at 30 weeks, and he was convinced i wouldn't know if I was going into preterm labour and was totally disgusted when I said I could check my own cervix. I left thinking he was a total nutjob.... but then I started questioning myself and wondering if I SHOULD have let him do it, maybe I"m wrong, etc. He'd planted a seed of doubt. Even on something SO stupid and ridiculous and medically unnecessary. It took me a few weeks to get over it and go back to trusting my body.
post #4 of 8
Are you planning a UC?

If so, I'd dump that OB immediately because he will just undermine your confidence all along the way. He is not speaking truth to you, and clearly has an overinflated view of how much authority he should have in your life.

Even if you not planning a UC, but a mw-assisted hb, I'd still dump him for the same reasons.

Don't engage with him, it will get you nowhere. If you want to have a natural birth at all, whether UC, mw-assist or even in the hospital, you'd do far better for yourself and baby to spend your energy engaging only with positive influences, and setting boundaries to keep out the negative. Being empowered in part means setting those boundaries, sharing your time and energy only with those you know will speak truth and be respectful, choosing your own path and refusing to waste your time and energy on those who cannot and will not understand.

good luck--
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
Ms.Black-- Yes, I'm planning a UC...

I think you are right, he is undermining everything I've worked so hard to achieve these past few years. That being said with my ins. I HAVE to see a OB to get the referral at least for the u/s. The bloodwork is easy to obtain...just a slip of paper. And personally some of the other OB's are complete a$$holes around here...there is one here in town who forces women to get the h1n1 vaccine by throwing them out of their practice if they decline...its so crazy...

I do want both the bloodwork and u/s. I know some women don't get those and I totally respect that but I want it. No matter what the results are there is no way I'd terminate or anything like that, but if there WERE a problem of some sort like a heart condition or defect...I'd like to be prepared for that...and as emotionally prepared for that as one could be. I've had two healthy babies with no problem and nothing really runs in my family so I'm not really worried about it..I'd just like to be prepared just in case!!

He did promise to back off, and I'm really curious to see if he does...that next appt (16week) I should get the paperwork and referral out for the u/s so I have to go to it. AFTER THAT I will be done...I am actually calling my mw today to start up dual care because she is AWESOME and will definitely help me put my fears to rest...she's just so supportive and also super supportive of me having a UBAC. She is also a wealth of information....she has been delivering babies for over 20 years and very knowledgeable on herbs, which I am just learning about

Even though I've managed to let someone plant a seed...I will NEVER back down on my beliefs and NEVER let a dr tell me what to do with my body and baby...even though last pregnancy my HB turned into a hospital transfer never once let the hospital drs call the shots...I was in total control of my birth even though it did end up in another c/s...I still felt empowered by that even though I, in a way lost the birth that I so wanted.

I am feeling better about it today and I'm glad I could come here and post about it and find women understanding...sometimes I feel alone in all this because IRL I have no one, friend-wise that feels the same way I do...and though sometimes I tell them certain things and they know where I stand I know that somewhere deep down they probably think I'm crazy! I do have my DH who is my biggest supporter and we talk a lot about everything...but sometimes a girl just needs another woman to talk to about things. KWIM?
post #6 of 8
Definitely know what you mean! Nothing like women friends and woman-to-woman talking

Glad you're feeling better about all of it. Get what you need from that guy, and don't let him bother you!
post #7 of 8

It actually sounds like the conversation met your goal

The phone conv (just from reading) was not to change his mind. It was for him to hear you--not agree. You won't change his/he won't change yours. But that's not the point. You agreed to disagree and he agreed to get off your case.

You can't understand what a feat that is to accomplish

Ms. Black is right. He may not have spoken truth, but he spoke his truth. He did not sound dishonest about his thoughts/motives/ or otherwise and you stated that when you said he was a straight shooter.

You spoke your truth and got him to back down.

So cool of you.
post #8 of 8
How about re-framing his comments in your mind? He has planted a seed of doubt about you being a VBAC, but I would be willing to bet he would lecture any HB Mama about HB too! (Considering ACOG is opposed to any OOH birth - even FSBC birth!)

Just think that he is of the medical mindset. He truly believes what he does for women is right. You know he is wrong! Whether it is about the GD test, HB in general, or HBAC or VBAC. You know he is wrong, so you need to dismiss it all! Don't let him make a dent in your armor of knowledge.

As for other women, have you looked into a local ICAN group, or even LLL or any natural parenting groups? Baltimore has ICAN, several LLLs, and even a couple Yahoo groups on Natural parenting, so it might be worth looking into.
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