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post #21 of 37
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride View Post
hmm....maybe I will go see this, after all. I wasn't going to, because it's James Cameron. (All I've seen by him is Titanic, and I hated it.)
I'm right there with you, I never made it all the way through Titanic. What a bore! But you will love this movie. I promise. I'm not even into sci fi stuff and only went because this is what my DS 1 wanted to watch, and I thought it is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time.
post #22 of 37
I loved it! The special effects are game changing and beautiful! The plotline is predictable but the acting helps makes it sincere. The anti pillaging other cultures and lands/planets is strong, as is the message of spiritual connection to the land. This really spoke to me.

Our son is 6 and has watched a lot of movies. Some Harry Potter but not all, no LOTR and yes Pirates of the Carribean. But he is sensitive to animals getting hurt. So we decided to not let him watch this one. The peril to the planet’s beings, humanoid and animal was very real.

Oh and DS did not like Coraline. He was kinda freaked out and didn’t finish watching it. He likes Nightmare before Christmas though.

Rhianna
post #23 of 37
There was definitely some violence and the movie was really long. I know DS, age 6.5, is no where near ready to see it.

And I guess I'll be the only one to say, I didn't love it. I saw it in 3D. It was visually really appealing. But I didn't think the plot was all that interesting (seemed unoriginal to me) and didn't sustain a 2 hour and 40 minute movie for me.

Catherine
post #24 of 37
I generally really dislike sci-fi, and only went to see Avatar because I was sick and bored, and needed something to do that didn't require physical activity and was sweat-pant appropriate. So, I took my 16 year old little sister and went. We tried to get into the IMAX 3D, but it was sold out, so we settled for just regular 3D. I was skeptical, but I'd already seen "It's Complicated" and there is nothing else good out. So, I grumbled about spending $13 until the movie started.

Oh my god, what a great movie. By far one of the best I've ever seen, especially in theaters. I was completely captivated. Was it original? Well, with the thousands and thousands of movies, is any plot truly original? It kept me on the edge of my seat and got my heart beating pretty fast. It was truly an experience, not just a movie. I'm going next week to see it in IMAX 3D. I just wonder if it'll have the same effect on DVD.
post #25 of 37
It was an awesome movie, but not what I would bring a young child to see honestly. The biggest issue for me is the warfare - it is not gore but it is definitely very violent - savage actually, and heart rending....There are significant battle scenes that do involve destruction and death. More powerful IMO since it was not gore....

Some of the other posters mentioned LOTR - not quite as graphic as the battle scene of Helms Deep, but still a good gage - if you let your child watch LOTR and it has not scared them, then this would be fine.

Personally I try to preview anything my son is going to watch.

that said - it is really well done, and a beautiful movie. I love the eco-spiritual thing they have going on in it!!! Very very well done.
post #26 of 37
We went today.. 2 adults, and three kids age 11-4.. The 4yo and 6yo LOVED all the graphics, tech stuff, etc but the movie is LONG and they both fell asleep at some point. The 11yo and both adults loved it though.. We didn't go to 3D- 1, it is a pricier ticket here and there WERE 5 of us going, 2- 3D sometimes gives me a headache..

theme wise I kept thinking Word for World is Forest.. over and over.
post #27 of 37
Dh and I went to go see it last week. Is it really that good in 3D? The theater we watched it in only had 2D. I would have liked to have seen it in 3D but dh was saying that even the 2D made him a little motion sick.

I did like it a lot. I think that I'll let dd1 watch it with us when it comes out on DVD. (Or maybe we'll even take her to the $3 theater when it arrives there)
post #28 of 37
We ALMOST went...

but ds#2 only wanted to see it in 3-D.

Dh and I wanted to see it in 2-D ( 3-D makes us both feel awful.)

Ds#1 didn't want to go if ds#2 wasn't going.

Then by the time dh and I decided to go and see it in 2-D by ourselves, it was too late to go.

Maybe later...

Le sigh.
post #29 of 37
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Originally Posted by Belle View Post
Dh and I went to go see it last week. Is it really that good in 3D? The theater we watched it in only had 2D. I would have liked to have seen it in 3D but dh was saying that even the 2D made him a little motion sick.

I did like it a lot. I think that I'll let dd1 watch it with us when it comes out on DVD. (Or maybe we'll even take her to the $3 theater when it arrives there)
I wish I hadn't wasted the money on 3D. It was distracting and a lot of the movie was just in regular 2D.
post #30 of 37
I'm always hesitant to see 3-D movies in 2-D because I saw Coraline in 2-D and thought it was awful. It was visually so bland, like they decided only to show half the frames of the movie or something. And it seemed blurry at times. So now I worry I'll have the same experience at other movies.

I actually forgot I was watching a 3-D movie when I was seeing Avatar. I think it would be find in 2-D as long as they have a version specifically filmed for 2-D.

My husband took our 10 year old and she liked it so much she encouraged me to go so she could see it again. I think she was done by the second time, she said it was better the first time around.
post #31 of 37
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Originally Posted by naturegirl7 View Post
It was an awesome movie, but not what I would bring a young child to see honestly. The biggest issue for me is the warfare - it is not gore but it is definitely very violent - savage actually, and heart rending....There are significant battle scenes that do involve destruction and death. More powerful IMO since it was not gore....
My DH and I just went to see this last night, and I want to second this opinion. I would not take a child under 13 to see this. IMO, the violence is worse than LOTR, because the "monsters" are people who look like us. In one of the worst scenes, they shoot canisters of poison gas from airplanes into a structure full of families and children, and we're watching babies and children staggering and falling as they try to get out.

The difference between this and LOTR is the difference between the writers' times: Tolkien represented WWI in his battles, so it's all about soldiers facing each other across a contested line of battle. Brutal and gory, yes, but face-to-face. And it's made a bit easier by the fact that nearly all the "bad guys" are actually big ugly monsters, not other people. Avatardepicts the far more terrifying reality of modern warfare: brutality performed at a removed distance, where the perpetrators never have to recognize the humanity of the people they are destroying. I think it's far more horrible because it's far more recognizable.

And, in that vein, I have to say that I left the theatre a bit disappointed. I'm definitely glad I went to see the movie, and especially glad we sprung for the 3D tickets - I've never seen anything so visually spectacular. But in the end, the message of the movie was still the same old myth of redemptive violence: "the only appropriate response to violence is violence." "You can't reason with terrorists, you can only eliminate them." The only thing this film does is suggest that we have a skewed view of who the "terrorists" are... and that they may actually be "us." But it doesn't change the same basic premise, which is that people who use violence can only speak the language of violence, and that there is no way to escape or stop it except by being the most violent and winning the battle decisively. Yawn. What I wouldn't give for one good movie that shows the truth: that violence always begets more violence and never, ever stops. But I suppose that wouldn't sell nearly as many tickets...
post #32 of 37
Has anyone been reading up on the racism controversy of this film?

http://www.adn.com/nation/story/1087631.html
post #33 of 37
thank you for this. i have been trying to find some references to some kind of criticism.

i am involved with indegenous people. and unfortunately the idea that the white man is a hero is actually true. most of the lawyers who are fighting for the people ARE white. i mean look it was diane fossey (or was it jane goodall) who brought the plight of the chimps to the world.

dont want to start a controversey here. but movies yes make a huge deal, but truly it is the 'white' man - with all his privileges - who is helping big time.
post #34 of 37
Film, as one of the dominant expressions of our cultural conversation, expresses what we think about ourselves. And in this particular (American) film, we have a tired storyline about a white man who "saves" a native people by using the same old methods of violence and aggression that are used by the oppressors. Nothing new is added to our cultural conversation here. The war is the same (only flashier thanks to CGI) and the racism is the same (only broader and multispecies) and the end result is the same.

In Avatar, the entire 15-year struggle of the indigenous people of Pandora is solved in three months by one knucklehead-with-a-heart-of-gold ex-Marine who is able to bring the considerable power and technology of his destructive, warmongering race to the aid of an oppressed people (by teaching them bigger, better ways to make war). Tada, in less than 3 hours we have a happy ending, and a cross-species love story to boot.

This is a lovely fantasy, except that life doesn't really work this way. Let's imagine the sequel, based on how we know these things really go. After they win back Pandora for the people, the tribes begin to battle among themselves for dominance and access to the "sky people's" superior technology. Sully teaches 'his' own small tribe how to build bigger, better guns than the other tribes, and they win control of the planet by destroying the other tribes. See? The story just goes on and on and on. It never ends. There is never peace on this route. After a few generations, the "sky people" come back for another try, with better weapons this time, and they eliminate the people of the planet altogether with the excuse that "they're fighting among themselves anyway."

Meemee, you may be right about people with power who help those without power.
This is often true because people without power don't have access to the resources they need to help themselves, because the people with power took those resources away from them to begin with. So some good-hearted people, once they realize this, have to go back and try to make things right. But they never completely abdicate their own power and supremacy in doing so. They "help" people, sure, if they're good hearted, but they keep their power and wealth in the process. If Bill Gates' fortune was threatened by his philanthropy, you can bet he'd think twice about all his "good works." The protagonist in this film, in the end, "becomes" part of the people - physically speaking - but he retains the class privilege he brought to the story in the first place. He ends the story as the military leader of the people; no way can the white man enter this story and end it on the fringes of the society he's joined, right?

A white person with an education, if they are a responsible person, can go to bat for poor people of color, or indigenous people, and do some excellent good on their behalf. No argument there, meemee. I would venture to say that any white person with an education who is NOT doing work on behalf of the oppressed people of the world is actually perpetuating that oppression. Our white privilege (including our access to education) is facilitated by the oppression of others. It isn't "good-heartedness" to work for the oppressed, in this context - it is a debt we are responsible for paying. We don't help the poor because we're nice people, we help the poor because their poverty has enabled our wealth and we are responsible for restoring that balance as much as we can. And most of us fall short. I do, all the time.

I think it's like the title of Ralph Nader's new book, Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us. Don't we all wish that the people who have the most money and power would come to the aid of the people with the least money and power, because that would solve a whole lot of problems right quick!!! Unfortunately, this book, like the film Avatar, deals more in fantasy than in real life. It's too bad - because real life could use a bit of help from the creative imaginations of our time.
post #35 of 37
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Originally Posted by meemee View Post
dont want to start a controversey here. but movies yes make a huge deal, but truly it is the 'white' man - with all his privileges - who is helping big time.
this is what made the movie disappointing to me, from a plot standpoint. visually, the movie was spectacular, and i was just gobstopped by the imagery and the work that went into creating the world. but really, we could have had more narrative tension by doing something different from the "white guy blunders in, shows up the natives, saves the day, and oh yeah, gets the native princess, too" shtick.

there's a reason why my more cynical friends call the movie "dances with smurfs in ferngully", you know?

christina
post #36 of 37
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Originally Posted by lafemmedesfemmes View Post
this is what made the movie disappointing to me, from a plot standpoint. visually, the movie was spectacular, and i was just gobstopped by the imagery and the work that went into creating the world. but really, we could have had more narrative tension by doing something different from the "white guy blunders in, shows up the natives, saves the day, and oh yeah, gets the native princess, too" shtick.

there's a reason why my more cynical friends call the movie "dances with smurfs in ferngully", you know?

christina
oh christina YES YES YES!!! the story line was soooo lame!!! so terribly PREDICTABLE!!! that indeed was its weakest point. just like 2012. hah!! the christians won, and the ark saved the people. i mean we survived sucha catastrophe. however just to introduce the idea thru hollywood to care about one's environment i think is a huge message.
post #37 of 37
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there's a reason why my more cynical friends call the movie "dances with smurfs in ferngully", you know?
OMG, YES!!!! White guy saves the noble savages.

Sure, the film was visually appealing. But the story was so predictable and nothing to write home about.
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