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post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
I could really use some help from some UC mamas who have worked through similar issues as mine.

I am currently 35 wks pg with baby #4. My birth history is 1 medicated hospital birth with an OB, 1 unmedicated hospital birth with a CNM, and 1 UC.

When I had my daughter UC, I was totally comfortable with it and at peace with my decision. I knew it was the right way for us to go.

With this baby, some other (non-health-related) circumstances have come up that are making me feel different about this birth.

Issue #1 - A local family is currently being prosecuted for having a homebirth. Because lay midwives are not legal here, they did not tell the authorities that had a midwife, so they are being treated as though they had a UC. Both baby and mom were and are healthy and fine. Authorities got involved because they transferred mom after birth due to some medical concerns. Family (mom and dad both) is being prosecuted for "giving birth in unsanitary environment" and "not seeking immediate medical treatment upon birth."

With my last UC, I felt like I was doing nothing wrong, nothing illegal, and as such should be safe from a legal situation. Now, I am incredibly uneasy about this. Even though homebirth / unassisted birth are not illegal, I can see now that if someone wants to go after you (for whatever reason), they can find another way to do it. I also used to feel like if you had truly done nothing wrong and your choices were defensible, then it would work out okay. I don't really feel that way now. Through some other life experiences, I know that innocent people get burned in our system every day. Innocence does not protect you, at least not always anyway.

So now, I feel as though I am trying to do something sneaky or wrong. Like, I won't be able to rest until it is over and I haven't "gotten caught." I obviously don't feel like I should have to feel this way about my birth choices, but I can't shake the feeling. Thus, I have had a really hard time relaxing into the idea of a UC.

Issue #2 - With my last birth, we just didn't tell people are plans. So, I had no negative influences from family / friends. This time, we aren't telling people, but since family knows about last time, when they ask, I'm not lying (b/c I'm not comfortable doing so). So, I am getting a lot more pressure / anxiety from this negative vibe, although it is indirect. I am having a really hard time forcing that out of my mind.

Because of these issues, I had planned during my mid-pregnancy to go to our local birthing center. I feel confident in my ability to stand up for my rights and not be bullied in that environment. My main reason for UC was that it was the safest way for my baby to be born without unnecessary interventions, etc., etc. I thought I would be able to achieve that at the birth center. It was worth it to me to sacrifice some of my wishes for the experience to avoid some of the other fears, knowing that I would still be able to achieve the majority of what I want (primarily, safe, healthy me and babe in an untraumatized manner)
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However, two circumstances arose that changed this plan. #1 - my children would not be able to visit at all, due to H1N1. This is non-negotiable. #2 - I found out some things about one of the providers in the practice I am with that make me really uncomfortable.

So, I changed plans back to UC.

At this point, the plan is still to UC. I have been trying to do positive visualizations, and really am not worried about me and the baby, in terms of safety and such. But I can't shake the fear of the legal situation. It is really strong for me (whether or not it should be).

Then I try to visualize a birth center experience, to see if that is what feels right to me. Sometimes, I'm okay with it. But mostly, I feel like I couldn't give birth comfortably / easily in that setting. I would be very anxious and uncomfortable with all the invasiveness, medicalization, constant checking / monitoring, etc. But then again, if I visualize the possibility of being "caught", I feel like this is the better alternative.

Then, I come here to read and reinforce why I choose UC. I read stories about the hospital and remember why I don't want an institutional birth. Yet, I still can't seem to get past my fear.

I know that no one else can tell me what the right answer is. But, what I am looking for is some stories from others who have walked a similar path and made peace with their decision, either way. Or just some words of wisdom. Anything you have that might help me work through this process.

If you made it this far, thank you so much for all your help!
post #2 of 7
I don't have anything helpful to offer, but I can definitely relate to your concerns. I am 39 weeks pg and planning a UC. I went to the health department for a proof of pregnancy to make getting the birth certificate easier, and they keep calling me demanding to know where I am getting my prenatal care and where I will be delivering. I don't have anything to tell them! When I gave birth at the hospital to DD they sent someone from CPS to talk to us just because I kept turning down all the interventions they wanted to do, so it's been stressful for me this pregnancy. I am just trying to think positive and not worry about it. I am confident my birth will go fine but I have concerns about afterward, especially when I have to go to the health department to file for the birth certificate.
post #3 of 7
I can't tell you what to do. My advice for family members is not to discuss your birth plans with them and to change the subject if it comes up.

Do you know if the homebirth family has support from homebirth/family organizations?
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post #5 of 7
I haven't had any similar situations. But had to reply to offer some hugs. I really don't like basing my own decisions off of what has happened to others. I say that because if I did, I wouldn't even be pregnant right now. I would believe that birth is risky and can kill you, especially doctors negligence. But here I am, 36 weeks and still chugging along. And still thinking that if I had an emergency it is still a good idea to seek out professional help (even though I know what the outcomes can be of said help).

Does any of what I am saying make sense? I am sorry if it's not and I am just blathering here. I would follow your heart and trust it. I hope you can keep the faith in the shadow of so much hardship. I wish you the best.
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thank you for your input, ladies. I appreciate your thoughts and am working a lot on working through these issues internally.

Yes, Serenyd, that is the case I was referring to.
post #7 of 7
Hello,

I have had 3 UC for 4 kiddos. Let me tell you a little about them.

My first UC was with my 3rd kid. She was beautiful and healthy and when her father's family found out we went UC they treated me like I tried to kill her (except his dad that was born in 1931 and was impressed I gave birth to his granddaughter the way he was born). no legalities but the family stress. No one ever talked to me about it unfortunately, because I would have showed all the information I had about what I was learning versus common medical practices. (Henci Goer has a wonderful book you might suggest to family members if they continue asking)

For the second birth, it was twins. One of them had a problem due to her size and other conditions that warranted a trip to hospital a day and half after her birth. They called CPS. The worker went to my house, but I was at hospital with the twins, but noticed stuff I had on my door about birth and being a doula (I was trying to share this information so thoroughly it saved my bu**)

After speaking with me at hospital and asking about the info on the door, she decided there was no abuse, I knew what I was doing and then the fact I got them medical treatment when it was dire all played in my favor.

I have since been pursued because of another doctor, a supposed specialist, complaining of my malnourishing the one with low blood sugar issues (that has been debunked by better physicians). This caused CPS to be on my case for 6 months. Just in time for the good doctors to not have anything written yet, so for my choices I have a medical neglect file with the CPS.

As for your situation. I would simply do what felt the most comfortable for you and the baby. If you feel the baby and you will be healthier going UC> go UC. I have had friends take their baby to the regular doctor the next day (or business day) or transfer for a problem (which the type of problem you would have to be transferred from a birthing center anyway)

And for my last birth, I was in deep with CPS because of the school system for older kids (they got lice and when i said "hey i'm pregnant, i'm not using your chemicals" they called). I had the CPS worker comin over every month, a lady from another agency coming once or twice a week. They knew my experiences and my ideas because I told them. I also told them I was seeing a midwife. I had 2 appointments with a midwife and told them that too, she wouldn't continue to see me because I continued to smoke.

I had a meeting planned with the CPS lady the day my son was born lol. I called and said I have to reschedule. She assumed whatever she assumed.

At the very least, if you do decide to UC, and get "caught" you can use it to teach a large majority. Even though you will have psuedo professionals breathing down your neck, get some media coverage for youself. Someone somewhere may learn and actually hear your side of the story. (tlc will air a show called twins by surprise jan 1 @ 1pm > shameless plug - my story is last -lol)

And give super support to the family you know of currently be prosecuted. Use your previous UC experience and your faith and instincts to guide you. I always say if you think of it and it gives you peace it is right for you, no matter what it is.

Anything worthwhile is difficult. And there are always people who disagree. And others that are scared because of a fear of the unknown. Teach them and the fear goes away. Agree to disagree with the rest.

GL and keep me posted
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