What are your top reasons for not vaxing?

[BarnMomma]

I'm curious, if the non vaxers here had to make a list as the top reasons they don't vax what would they be?

For me:

1. I don't like the ingredients
2. I believe they kill and injury thousands of children every year and the gov not only knows, but tolerates it
3. I firmly believe they are responsible for the rise in autism, diabetes, chronic adult illness and the general overall lousy health of americans
4. I believe they lower IQ and the ability to think
5. I don't think they woork

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

Basically everything you listed along with the damage that was done to my dd from vax.

[Fyrestorm]

Yup!

[twead]

everything you listed plus they haven't been proven safe

[Gitti]

My first and main reason is that I find the injection of anything into a healthy human body as totally interfering with health.

[tessa_s212]

Quite simply, I believe the vaccine itself is more dangerous than any VPD my child could get.

[Debnicolai]

1. It doesn't make sense.
2. It never made sense to me.
3. None of the CDC facts/arguments are logical.
4. I can read. I have read a great deal.
5. It still doesn't make sense.
and to quote GITTI:
My first and main reason is that I find the injection of anything into a healthy human body as totally interfering with health.

[MountainMamaGC]

When I looked into it, I found out they dont even really work and are not responsible for the decline in VAD at all.

I found out there are NO long term studies regarding health and side effects.

I dont think health comes from a needle or pill.

[SummerLove]

Everything you said... for me, it just didn't feel right.

[Kailey's mom]

After researching, I was terrified.
Dd seemed to get sickER after vaccines which is why I started researching.
I feel most are more harmful than the actual illness
I think that natural immunity is better in the longrun
Since Sensory processing d/o is a neurological disorder, I feel it's unsafe to continue vaccinating.
I think injecting harmful toxins into the body can cause long term neurological damage.
I am convinced of the above!
I've NEVER EVER been the same since a hep B shot I recieve October 10th, 1999. I'm now on disability.
I do not believe for one minute that big pharma has "our" best interests in mind, it's all about money, and how many vaccines they can scare us in to thinking we need.


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[caned & able]

As I said on the other thread, common sense.

Please, think about it.

[JAZE MOMMIE]

For me it was a GUT THING!

I had my older 2 boys vaxed --but only because I did not know there were exemptions.

Child # 3 -I was enlightened after she had 3 shots and was due for another --I COULD NOT GO AHEAD WITH IT.

Got me searching health and illnes and how to deal with sickness.
THANKS MOTHERING!

[SunshineJ]

There are many reasons, some more significant than others. In order it would probably look something like this.

1. I believe that Nature created our bodies in a way designed to combat illness and that interferring with that via immunizations seriously compromises the way our bodies were designed to work.
2. I do not believe that most VPD's are "scary" or automatically life changing or fatal. With proper hygeine and nutrition, as well as common sense and available medical treatment, I believe that for most people these diseases are not a real concern.
3. The inbreeding of vaccine makers and people in key places of policy decision making power raises far too many red flags for me to consider any recommendations from those sources as valid. Likewise the refusal to acknowledge any possibility for serious side effects as well as the vaccine manufacturer's "immunity status" from lawsuits raises more concerns.
4. The ingredients in vaccines are not things that were meant to be injected into the human body and have a very real potential for disaster.
5. The potential for disaster has not been adequately researched.
6. Secondary and cross contamination from the vaccine incubation procedures is rarely acknowledged and seldom studied - another potential for disaster.
7. Vaccines are not proven to be effective. No one knows how long they last, if they'll "take", when they may or may not wear off or how well they work. Many children who receive the chickenpox vaccine, for example, still contract chickenpox.
8. I would not want to be responsible for intentionally exposing other children or adults to VPD's - which can and does happen with the shedding issue of some vaccines.
9. I hate needles and don't like to see my children get shots. (Obviously if points 1-8 did not exist this wouldn't prevent me from providing what I felt to be the best medical treatment for my kids. But it is true - I do hate needles! LOL!)
I think that's all, but I may be leaving some out.

Funny, I haven't seen a lot of people posting about their fears of autism in this thread. Don't y'all know that's the *only* concern non-vaxing parents have? Sheesh people, get with the program <sarcasm>

[phathui5]

- I'm not comfortable with the ingredients.

- While I don't want my kids to get sick, I'm comfortable with most (not all!) of the VPD's.

[3princesses]

Originally Posted by SunshineJ

There are many reasons, some more significant than others. In order it would probably look something like this.

1. I believe that Nature created our bodies in a way designed to combat illness and that interferring with that via immunizations seriously compromises the way our bodies were designed to work.
2. I do not believe that most VPD's are "scary" or automatically life changing or fatal. With proper hygeine and nutrition, as well as common sense and available medical treatment, I believe that for most people these diseases are not a real concern.
3. The inbreeding of vaccine makers and people in key places of policy decision making power raises far too many red flags for me to consider any recommendations from those sources as valid. Likewise the refusal to acknowledge any possibility for serious side effects as well as the vaccine manufacturer's "immunity status" from lawsuits raises more concerns.
4. The ingredients in vaccines are not things that were meant to be injected into the human body and have a very real potential for disaster.
5. The potential for disaster has not been adequately researched.
6. Secondary and cross contamination from the vaccine incubation procedures is rarely acknowledged and seldom studied - another potential for disaster.
7. Vaccines are not proven to be effective. No one knows how long they last, if they'll "take", when they may or may not wear off or how well they work. Many children who receive the chickenpox vaccine, for example, still contract chickenpox.
8. I would not want to be responsible for intentionally exposing other children or adults to VPD's - which can and does happen with the shedding issue of some vaccines.
9. I hate needles and don't like to see my children get shots. (Obviously if points 1-8 did not exist this wouldn't prevent me from providing what I felt to be the best medical treatment for my kids. But it is true - I do hate needles! LOL!)
I think that's all, but I may be leaving some out.

Funny, I haven't seen a lot of people posting about their fears of autism in this thread. Don't y'all know that's the *only* concern non-vaxing parents have? Sheesh people, get with the program <sarcasm>

well said!

[nanamar]

~None of the vaccine ingredients belong in the human body.
~We were created perfect, and our bodies have the ability to fight off disease from within, without inteference from the outside.
~Too many, too soon...
~Side effects... as the vax schedule goes on the rise, so is autism, diabetes, learning disordes and the sad state of health in America.

[MomofMusa]

Originally Posted by Kailey's mom

After researching, I was terrified.
Dd seemed to get sickER after vaccines which is why I started researching.
I feel most are more harmful than the actual illness
I think that natural immunity is better in the longrun
Since Sensory processing d/o is a neurological disorder, I feel it's unsafe to continue vaccinating.
I think injecting harmful toxins into the body can cause long term neurological damage.
I am convinced of the above!
I've NEVER EVER been the same since a hep B shot I recieve October 10th, 1999. I'm now on disability.
I do not believe for one minute that big pharma has "our" best interests in mind, it's all about money, and how many vaccines they can scare us in to thinking we need.


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Wow.. Your post is very interesting..

I stopped after my son's 8th month shot. I can't recall which one it was but, he had became sick. It scared the hell out of me.. I am not a great student at reading almost everything, but it gave me reason to read some books.

Mom's, I am so scared.. I am afraid of both what could happen if I don't and what could happen if I continue.. My son is 2 yrs old and I really don't want him vaccinated anymore for most of the reasons stated here and my own.

[luckiest]

For me (talking about future children here), it's all of the reasons everyone has listed so far, plus the firm belief that the MMR I got when I was 2 caused my current rheumatoid arthritis.

I developed anterior iritis days after the shot, which was successfully treated with anti-inflammatory drops. The iritis returned when I was 12, at which point they began asking if I had any joint pain, because forms of uveitis are usually indicative of a larger systemic issue, mostly autoimmune conditions. No joint pain until this last year (I'm 24), and now I have three large joints affected. It hasn't presented as "typical" RA because it's affected non-symmetrical large joints.

No one knows the exact cause of RA, but they think it's a combination of genetic predisposition and an infectious trigger. If vaccines cause an immune response that would mimic response to an actual infection, isn't it logical that the vaccine could be the infectious trigger? Maybe I was predisposed, but I absolutely, definitively believe that the MMR played a huge role in me developing the disease.

My older brother also has a sensory disorder that my mom believes was caused by vaccines. Our three younger siblings are completely un-vaxed and have no systemic issues at all.

So, yeah. I'll pass on vax.

[JMJ]

1. Some of the vaccines are made from aborted fetuses, and I am very pro-life. This was the issue that got me looking at vaccines in the first place.

2. The vaccine companies participate in what I consider to be unethical practices.

3. If you are never exposed to the disease, you are better off not getting the vaccine than getting the vaccine.

4. For most people and most of the diseases, if you are exposed to the disease, you end up better off not getting the vaccine than getting the vaccine because you usually build better immunity.

5) I don't think that universal vaccination against all diseases possible is a good use of our nation's health care dollars.

6) My child is healthy and has excellent nutrition, and I am in a position that if she does get sick, I can stay home with her so that she does not pass her illness on to others or catch more serious illnesses while her immune system is compromised.

Note: I am not completely anti-vax. I vax against illnesses that I believe my daughter is likely to come in contact with, and if she does, it's reasonably likely that she could die or experience long-lasting side effects from the disease... and only if the vax is not made from aborted fetuses.

[mamadelbosque]

All of what everyone posted. But my major argument (and what I told my ped) is this:

If vaccines are so perfect and safe and all, *WHY* do the manufacturers need immunity?

My DC's ped couldn't answer the above. So, I told her: If you can answer that, and give me a good explanation for it, I'll vax. She hasn't brought it up since.