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when your toddler attacks you in a public place

post #1 of 12
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I'm looking for discipline advice on what to do when your toddler maims you in public. We've had many struggles with DS and his biting. Today he clawed my husband's face and twisted it in his hand. It was incredibly upsetting for the whole family. He left big marks all over DH's face. There were sickness and tiredness factors involved - but there's no way I consider this acceptable! Please help tell me what you would do in this situation.

In general I have trouble with my child being physically aggressive when he starts to get tired. He's what I would call spirited, high-needs, intense, etc.
post #2 of 12
how old is your toddler?


seriously, if you know it is because of being tired, then maybe stopping the situation before it arises will be in order. Make sure your toddler has plenty of rest and do not take him out into public without a nap.

Why did he claw your husbands face? What were they doing? Honestly, I would have put the child down and said "no scratching" and not ignore the child, but not give them any attention
post #3 of 12
Does he only do this when he's over done and over tired? If so, for a while I'd set a really strong bedtime schedule and not deviate from it.
When my kids get aggressive and harmful, we leave wherever we are. Having observers only escalates the situation.
post #4 of 12
If he is too young then avoid taking him out..
post #5 of 12
I had some biting and/or hitting/pinching from my youngest (to a much lesser degree though). I usually said "No biting, biting hurts. I can't carry you if you bite." and then I'd set him down. Usually w/in a few seconds he was ready to be picked up again and we'd get on with whatever we were doing. For him, being set down was a big enough consequence for him to break the habit. In your situation I'd probably leave the store or whatever and go home. Even if I didn't finish my task, its clearly too much for a tired toddler who is prone to scratching/biting/etc.
post #6 of 12
In the short term. If you hold the toddler facing away from you with their arms crossed on their chest, they cannot scratch you. Just be careful to have their head low enough so that if they start flinging their head it doesn't hit you in the face.

If they start to kick, then make their body slighly diagonal so that their feet pass to the side of you.

I do not allow anyone to hurt me. Children are included in that. I think that it's important to protect yourself.
post #7 of 12
I used to say "we dont hit" and grab his hands... but after repeating myself so many times and not seeing any change in his behaviour, I changed tactics. He is 16 mo but and advanced 16 mos, so I do expect a little more from him. I started grabbing his hand and saying "that hurts" with a sad expression, and then I show him what I prefer he do with his hands. I take his hand and pet my face with it, and say "Nice, thats soooo nice" and show him that I like that. After a week of this, I have seen him start to hit/claw me in the face, then he remembers and starts petting my face and says "Nice." Now, he very rarely forgets, and frequently just comes and pets my face and says "nice." He seems to do better with me telling him what TO DO as oppsed to "DON'T DO." Since he's responded so well to this, we have started saying "nice" when he is approaching our animals, so he has it in his mind what his hands should be doing once he gets up to the animal.
post #8 of 12
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If he is too young then avoid taking him out..
I don't understand this. How young is too young to go out in public? It doesn't seem like never leaving the house is realistic for most people.

When ds hits when we are out my response usually depends on why he's acting out. If he's overtired we leave; if he's frustrated at being cooped up (in the grocery cart or high chair, for instance) I try to take him someplace he can walk or explore or play a little game that engages his brain and imagination. I try to react in public the same way I do at home - that is, not let other people's opinions influence how I behave. Others might feel better if I yell, but ds and I certainly won't.
post #9 of 12
JL83 has good practical advice. Also, if you know you have to go out and he is tired, then a stroller would be safe for him and others.

Tjej
post #10 of 12
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If he is too young then avoid taking him out..
Uh, that's kinda not very helpful. Some people have no other option.

DS has done the face-clawing thing a few times but not often. When he does do it, we kinda growl "NO" at him, and then follow up with "that hurts, be soft," and take his hand and softly touch our faces with it. If he continues to try and claw, we put him down and don't talk to him, look at him, until he can be nice.

Good luck.
post #11 of 12
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If he is too young then avoid taking him out..
He's not a dog she can leave in a crate at home, I'm sure she has a life and doesn't want to spend the first two years of her child's life cooped up inside with him, you know? Not really solving the problem, either, it's a bit like taking something for your fever rather than treating what's causing it.
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by Super_mommy View Post
If he is too young then avoid taking him out..
There is no such thing as "too young" to take out.

OP. I gave different advice last time I posted, but does this kind of violence happen at home as well as when you're out? Or is it just an out thing?

My response would be different based on that. If he's doing it at home too, then you probably need to come up with a plan to put a stop to all physical outbursts of this kind. DD started to do some stuff like this when she'd get mad at us around 2 (to our knowledge she's never even hit/pushed another kid once, so it was really weird). When she'd hit us we put her on the stairs. She went with the idea that she was overwhelmed by what was happening and needed a break. Our stairs are kind of isolated (away from the action of our house) and work well. We'd either sit with her on our lap facing outwards (watching out for head/face collisions like I said before) and just be with her until she calmed, or we'd set her on the stairs and back off. It seemed almost random as to which she needed. Sometimes if we held her she just got worse, and other times it made it better. So we'd normally start off holding her and if that didn't work we'd walk away.

But we never really left. We would hover and wait until she was ready for some hugs and cuddles. Then we'd talk about gentle touches and help her touch us gently. And if we had any idea of what set her off, we'd talk about that too. But she was a bit slow to talk so we'd often have no clue and just focus on the idea that if she felt she was about to hit us she should go sit on the stairs. Now that she's 3, she often removes herself from the situation with either a tiny prompt "you look like you need a break" and she'll go to the stairs for ~10 seconds and come back more reasonable or sometimes no prompting. She'll go from losing it in the living room to looking at a book in her room on her own.

She never really did this when we were out. But the few times she did I held her in a way that wouldn't let me get hurt and tried to find a safe quiet place for her. Sometimes that was the car. I would put her in the back seat and sit down in the front and just wait for her to work through it.

For me it's really important to me that my children never think it's OK to hurt other people. And I'm included in that.
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