Winter MJ / Cannabis Mamas - Page 8

[chirp]

Originally Posted by shishkeberry

Oh, don't I know it! I still haven't managed to quit cigarettes completely. I have stopped buying them, and that goes a toward a great deal, but I live with people that smoke and my DF smokes so sometimes it's hard not to ask someone for one or two. I never managed to quit with my DS and he was a very small baby and I've always felt super guilty about it. He has certainly caught up by now and I don't think he has any lingering issues over it, but man, I felt like a terrible mother when he came out at only 5 lbs.

It's very hard to quit smoking cigarettes when you've smoked since you were 14. I am trying my very best, though.

i managed to quit cigarettes cold turkey. it was hard but i was motivated by my pregnancy (although I know many women who were just as dedicated as I was who couldn't quit...so no judgments here, mama.)

In the end it was the unbelievable, insatiable feeling of wanting a cigarette that made me quit. I couldn't believe that something could have that much of a hold on me. It made me ANGRY!!! I got pissed off at cigarettes and never went back. LOL. So have pity on yourself mama. It's the cigarettes. They're made to be that addictive. Pity yourself, get angry at the cigs and the companies!!!

For DH it was a lot harder, and he does still have the occassional social cigarette ubt our son doesn't see it, or even smell it or anything so I just look the other way (mostly).

It also doesn't help that you live with smokers. That makes it a billion times harder.

[karika]

Hi there! I haven't been around MDC much but have been catching up a bit lately. I am a huge advocate for legalizing drugs. I personally have been unable to partake for some time due to cost issues and I have decided I am against buying cannabis. I want to be able to grow my own, legally. I could pursue a mm card in my state, and I may, but just really wanted to say hey ya'll! There is quite a bit of hope for us with CA contemplating legalizing... also Nevada.... I may move I use cannabis for headaches, tummy upset, migraines, mood stabilization, relaxing, helping with appetite, helping go to sleep, making a game of chutes and ladders more fun.... hopefully I will feel free enough to do this again soon. Keep up the good work, and burn one for me...

[Sweetmama26]

Not on the subject of MJ but well it kind of is CANADA JUST WON GOLD IN MEN'S OLYMPIC HOCKEY!!!! I should go smoke a big FATTY to celebrate!

[yippiehippie]

For me, it was luckily kinda easy to give up cigs when i got pregnant bc they started sounding (and smelling) real bad to me-i just kinda stopped wanting them, thank goodness.
Smoking mj, however is a different story...i dont smoke much, i use a vaporizer and i really don't believe it harms the baby. In fact, it would have harmed him more w/o it bc i don't know if i would have been able to eat. Also, i've had such a rough pregnancy (mentally and physically) that i think i would have turned him into one big stress ball! It's proven that poor diet, sadness, and stress harm babies, but it''s not proven that mj does

Anyway, i'm quite happy right now bc we just got a new vap (other one just stopped working) and it works well

[Kailey's mom]

Hey, quick question that I have not yet researched. My mom and I were having a debate on which was worse, smoking cigarettes vs smoking pot. We both agreed that pot would be the better. Have there been any studies, or does anyone know if smoking pot would cause things like lung cancer? Is weed safer if you for instance use a bong? I guess injesting it would be the ultimate.. Just curious, and would love to hear if it does NOT cause lung cancer, breathing issues, etc. Thanks

[simple living mama]

Kelly's mom... Hello. If you go to the beginning of this thread on page 1, mama516/419 has put up some really great links that will answer your question in detail. Check it out.

[yippiehippie]

Kailey's mom: First off, i definitely agree that you should check out those websites-you'll find tons of info. It's actually quite overwhelming! Overall, it seems that so many people are out to prove that it's bad, but for every study they've done trying to conclude it, there's one that reverses it! Cigarettes, on the other hand have been continuously proven to cause so many issues...to the point you shouldn't even classify it w/weed-tobacco is just plain bad for you! (and, yes, i was a cig smoker!)
Anything (other than oxygen) you inhale into your lungs is prob not good, and mj is no exception. Some ppl wont even go near regular wick candles, for fear of inhaling their smoke. If you want to be a little "safer", i recommend a vaporizer- it doesn't heat it up enough to burn it so you're not "smoking" but rather inhaling THC vapors. Or, ingesting it: this way you also aren't inhaling any smoke, but mj is fat soluble, not water, that's why you must cook it first w/butter or fat instead of just eating it

IMO there is nothing wrong w/"God's green"! If i thought at all there was i wouldn't do it while preggers. On that note, i do feel a llittle guilty if i smoke it.

[Kailey's mom]

Originally Posted by yippiehippie

Kailey's mom: First off, i definitely agree that you should check out those websites-you'll find tons of info. It's actually quite overwhelming! Overall, it seems that so many people are out to prove that it's bad, but for every study they've done trying to conclude it, there's one that reverses it! Cigarettes, on the other hand have been continuously proven to cause so many issues...to the point you shouldn't even classify it w/weed-tobacco is just plain bad for you! (and, yes, i was a cig smoker!)
Anything (other than oxygen) you inhale into your lungs is prob not good, and mj is no exception. Some ppl wont even go near regular wick candles, for fear of inhaling their smoke. If you want to be a little "safer", i recommend a vaporizer- it doesn't heat it up enough to burn it so you're not "smoking" but rather inhaling THC vapors. Or, ingesting it: this way you also aren't inhaling any smoke, but mj is fat soluble, not water, that's why you must cook it first w/butter or fat instead of just eating it

IMO there is nothing wrong w/"God's green"! If i thought at all there was i wouldn't do it while preggers. On that note, i do feel a llittle guilty if i smoke it.

I just quit smoking cigarettes, and thought about getting some green to help with the increased anxiety and withdrawl.. then of course my mom was telling me how it is equally as bad as cigarettes. I've been cigarette free for 9 days!! thanks for the info. I've never seen a vaporizer, do you mean those big things you fill with water when you are sick, plug them in?? I live under a rock huh

[~D~]

Originally Posted by Kailey's mom

I just quit smoking cigarettes, and thought about getting some green to help with the increased anxiety and withdrawl.. then of course my mom was telling me how it is equally as bad as cigarettes. I've been cigarette free for 9 days!! thanks for the info. I've never seen a vaporizer, do you mean those big things you fill with water when you are sick, plug them in?? I live under a rock huh

Good job!! If you can make it 9 days, you can do it!! MJ should help a lot with the quitting process. It sure helped me. It's not equally as bad as cigs, imo. If you think about it this way - 20 cigs per pack, right? Nobody I know smokes 20 joints a day. If you give up cigarettes and smoke even 2 or 3 joints a day (which is a lot, imo) you save your body from 17 or 18 cigs worth of smoke! I think you are on the right track. Do what feels right for you - even if others don't agree! Here you can find out more on what vaporizers are about. Good luck mama =)

Peace & green love mamas!!

[eilonwy]

Originally Posted by ~D~

If you think about it this way - 20 cigs per pack, right? Nobody I know smokes 20 joints a day. If you give up cigarettes and smoke even 2 or 3 joints a day (which is a lot, imo) you save your body from 17 or 18 cigs worth of smoke!

In fairness, while I know no one who smokes twenty joints a day I know plenty of people who smoke at least that much weed when given the opportunity to do so-- they just prefer glassware. The thing that I find most fascinating is that the people I know who are the most functional while high are most inclined to do more, while the people who are least functional smoke the least. It's not like, say, alcohol or cigarettes where everyone just does as much as they're inclined to do regardless of how well they're able to function. I was chatting with a good friend of mine who likes to smoke occasionally, and applauding him for cutting back-- he gets *nothing* done when he's high, he's fun and sweet but utterly useless. Meanwhile another friend of mine would smoke a whole bowl every hour and a half if he was able to afford it, and in fact did so while working a physically and mentally demanding job for at least 8 or 9 hours a day. It's almost like weed is somewhat self-limiting in that regard.

[chirp]

Originally Posted by eilonwy

In fairness, while I know no one who smokes twenty joints a day I know plenty of people who smoke at least that much weed when given the opportunity to do so-- they just prefer glassware. The thing that I find most fascinating is that the people I know who are the most functional while high are most inclined to do more, while the people who are least functional smoke the least. It's not like, say, alcohol or cigarettes where everyone just does as much as they're inclined to do regardless of how well they're able to function. I was chatting with a good friend of mine who likes to smoke occasionally, and applauding him for cutting back-- he gets *nothing* done when he's high, he's fun and sweet but utterly useless. Meanwhile another friend of mine would smoke a whole bowl every hour and a half if he was able to afford it, and in fact did so while working a physically and mentally demanding job for at least 8 or 9 hours a day. It's almost like weed is somewhat self-limiting in that regard.

i know people who are totally useless who smoke waaay too much pot and know that the pot effects them, but they don't care. But I also think those same people suffer from depression or something (that the pot isn't helping, obviously).


i get your point though. I AM a better housekeeper when I'm high. Probably a better mommy too, although I like to think I'm a fairly good momma most of the time!!

I'm better at multitasking, keeping on track (yes! i said it! weed does not make me spacey if I'm doing housework or other kinds of work! it only makes me lose track during conversations!!) I'm better at assessing and thinking about my pending tasks strategically, and I whine about what I have to do less because I actually enjoy things like cleaning the oven when I'm high. LOL!!! I love attention to detail!!

BUT...if i smoke before 9:30-10 in the am I AM USELESS. So I self-regulate. Unless it's a rainy sunday morning and we've got all the fixin's for a giant breakfast and no reason to keep the oven cleaned. Then I indulge!

[eilonwy]

That's fascinating to me. Maybe my friends are just more mature than average? It made for very interesting conversation; I was at a party where everyone was either a smoker or very respectful of those who did. There was one guy who didn't like the smell, so it was vaporized for his sake... but then the fellow who didn't particularly care for vaporizers was accommodated too (our host found a safe outdoor space for him). There were some occasional/social smokers (among them the friend who knows how useless he is, so he only smokes at parties-- and only if he knows he won't have to be a grownup), some regular smokers, and some heavy smokers... but everyone smoked according to what they were able to accomplish while high. "I love smoking, but I can't do anything when I'm high so I wait until the weekends" or "I smoke all the time, but I'm very functional, I've got a full-time job and it goes really well" and so on. Even the people who didn't smoke were very accepting/accommodating of the whole deal, and in my experience smokers are the same way-- very accepting of everyone's personal comfort levels. I've never seen anything like the "It'll make you feel good" commercials from pot users-- they just aren't about pressuring people that way.

Have I mentioned here that I love my friends? I love my friends! They rock. They'd rock more if they could get me a steady supply of my own... but we're working on it.

[yippiehippie]

Originally Posted by Kailey's mom

I just quit smoking cigarettes, and thought about getting some green to help with the increased anxiety and withdrawl.. then of course my mom was telling me how it is equally as bad as cigarettes. I've been cigarette free for 9 days!! thanks for the info. I've never seen a vaporizer, do you mean those big things you fill with water when you are sick, plug them in?? I live under a rock huh

LOL! no, it's not the same, i have to call that a humidifier now bc dh looks at me funny when i ask him to fill the vaporizer w/water (this type of vap doesn't require water like the humidifier type does)!
There's a few different types, go to your local head shop and they'll show you and how to use them. there's portable ones, but i use one that we plug in and it's a box and you fill a tube w/a bowl on one end, then put it on the box and breath through the tube, hard to explain!
Sometimes, though, i just really enjoy the sensation of smoking, like you prob will (i gave up cigs 8 months ago upon finding out i was preggers, and, yeah, it helps to smoke mj). In that case it's nice to have an occasional joint or smoke from a pipe. IMO cigarettes are much worse-congrats on giving them up!!

AFM, i can go either way when high, i'm productive if i get right up, but can be lazy and relaxed with it too. It really depends on what my mindset is b4 smoking! In the eve it helps me relax and eat and sleep, during the day (though i very rarely smoke dureing the day) it helps yucky tasks turn fun!

[maminatural]

I know exactly what you mean, eilonwy...

Although I'm sure there might be folks who smoke and are lazy... I'd say that tends to happen more with younger people... It makes sense to me that while one is older and have more responsibilities, it is for different reasons that one would smoke. It's not like you're just hanging out smoking weed in your High School's backyard anymore.

I am one of those that should probably smoke more than I do because I am way more productive but in a very calm and spiritual way when I smoke my meds... I can focus better, I have a better outlook and can totally do my domestic duties better.

On the other hand, I also know those like my babydaddy who tends to suffer from depression (though he doesn't admit it) and hasn't smoked for a long time cause he fears being knocked out by it... the effect is way different for him.

On another topic... I realized I can't roll a joint! I broke my beautiful glass pipe the other day, it fell from where I had left it and I was so bummed out, especially because I can't be spending $20+ on another one.... Luckily, babydaddy is great at rolling them ;-).

[eilonwy]

Originally Posted by maminatural

I am one of those that should probably smoke more than I do because I am way more productive but in a very calm and spiritual way when I smoke my meds... I can focus better, I have a better outlook and can totally do my domestic duties better.

Yeah, that's me. It's one of the reasons that not having any is so depressing.

On another topic... I realized I can't roll a joint! I broke my beautiful glass pipe the other day, it fell from where I had left it and I was so bummed out, especially because I can't be spending $20+ on another one.... Luckily, babydaddy is great at rolling them ;-).

I asked about this earlier in the thread, and someone linked me to some very reasonably-priced pieces on Etsy, of all places. You might also consider a dugout & one-hitter-- they're very sturdy.

[~D~]

Miss you mamas! Are we ready for Spring yet? It's been sunny & warm here hope ya'll are happy & peaceful & full of magic love!!!

[eilonwy]

I love spring. The weather has been nice and the kids have been outdoors. I've been dead sober, but it's a lot easier to deal with when we can open windows.

[yippiehippie]

Almost time for a Spring thread! It's been so nice, i've been enjoying it as well. The forecast in my area calls for snow tomorrow, though. Oh well, at least it can't last long, right?! My baby shower is next weekend and i was really hoping for some warmer weather

Hope everyone's supply is good-min'es not, we've been scraping and are forced to get the expensive stuff today, which sucks since DH has only worked one day this week and this is my last week til maternity leave. The good news is we have relatives driving in and bringing us a bunch from AZ where it's actually good and cheap...can't wait!

[eilonwy]

My supply is nonexistent. It's depressing, but like I said it's a lot easier to deal with when I can open windows. I've got relatives coming to visit from AZ too, but they are almost unbelievably "straight". I can say with almost 100% certainty that if I asked my brother to bring me some, he would faint dead away. He was totally freaked out to hear me *talk* about smoking when we shared an apartment. One of his friends said, "You smoke and *he* gets paranoid? How does that work?" My mother, though she has never tried it, is much more laid back but my brother has always been super tense. He's a Virgo, he worries.

[yippiehippie]

Originally Posted by eilonwy

My supply is nonexistent. It's depressing, but like I said it's a lot easier to deal with when I can open windows. I've got relatives coming to visit from AZ too, but they are almost unbelievably "straight". I can say with almost 100% certainty that if I asked my brother to bring me some, he would faint dead away. He was totally freaked out to hear me *talk* about smoking when we shared an apartment. One of his friends said, "You smoke and *he* gets paranoid? How does that work?" My mother, though she has never tried it, is much more laid back but my brother has always been super tense. He's a Virgo, he worries.

Sorry to hear, wish i could share...i'm lucky to have MIL that loves it and i have quite a few others in my fam that do too, it sure makes everyone easier to deal with during any family issues!