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post #21 of 92
I'm with you 100%. I also hate how boys = puppies and girls = kittens. WTH!?

I've now got two boys and had a hard time the first time around with finding colourful things that weren't plastered with 'All Star' sport junk on them. I dressed DS1 in a cute little sleeper with flowers and someone asked me if I was 'trying to turn him gay' !! LOL! Unbelieveable!

I found some plain t-shirts with the plan to applique my choice of things on them. I like stripes, so will look for those. It's just so hard when stores separate into boy/girl sections. Why not a section with all kinds of colourful choices?
post #22 of 92
THis is why I shop consignment. You get lots of brands/styles to choose from, without having to go to lots of stores. It works for us!

I prefer one piece outfits for babies, too (until they are 2 or 3), like a PP upthread. If you can sew, you can also easily make them. They take a yard of fabric and an afternoon.
post #23 of 92
I love tie dye! If it doesn't move, I dye it...
post #24 of 92
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I love the baby clothes at Rugged Bear.
Me too - especially the bargain basement
post #25 of 92
Theres LOTS of stuff out there. I know this cause' I shop more-or-less exclusively at goodwill/salvation army/etc and I find lots of gender nuetral plain clothes - plaine green/blue/yellow/red/striped shirts
post #26 of 92
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Zutano makes gender neutral cothing.

Cheaper clothing and mass marketed (GAP, Gymboree, mall stores and the like) are generally gender specific. Urban baby boutiques and specialty stores are the best places to look.
Seconding Zutano for very cute clothing options (they tend to run small - fyi) and also basic Brilliance.
post #27 of 92
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the great ideas! I see that several people suggested Old Navy - I haven't tried there and I will. I was surprised someone suggested Children's Place - that was actually the store I mentioned in my original post where EVERY ITEM for boys had a sports theme! I have been putting my son in a lot of Carter's things bought either consignment or at Kohl's on sale, but I will check out Old Navy, Target and Walmart based on this post. Also, I LOVE the idea of buying plain and tie dyeing it - what fun! Thanks everyone!
post #28 of 92
I mostly get my son's clothing from Hanna Andersson. They have a lot of stripes or solids and sometimes, shockingly, even nice colors. LOL.

I also like Mini Boden but it depends on the items. They do have solids but also sometimes typical 'boy' emblazened clothing. Generally the only exceptions I make to the plan clothing are things with musical instruments on them, or in rarer cases a car. He mostly wears solids/stripes. I also got a super soft solid t-shirt from Gap Kids, too (ducking, I know, I know, it's Gap). I'm not happy with how the Children's Place holds up to washings but I have bought solids there in the past as well.

I loved Zutano when he was under 2!! I did used to get him things with prints back then, they just make cuter things for that age. He had a lot of animals or boats.
post #29 of 92
I've had lots of luck at LandsEnd. Be sure to check their overstocks page for sale prices. Hanna Andersson also has a fair bit of gender neutral stripes and solids, but tends to be quite pricey. And I agree with people who have suggested Target, I've found lots of very inexpensive solid t-shirts and sweats there.

Catherine
post #30 of 92
Lots of really great options on this thread! I hear you: I HATE it! It's ridiculous. I feel like it's even worse for my daughter... finding a pair of girls pants that don't have a giant flower embroidered somewhere is ridiculously hard! Sometimes, I just want a pair of plain pants. Is that too much to ask?

I'll throw in Tea Collection. Really cute stuff.
post #31 of 92
THis is actually a huge pet peeve of mine too. Somehow we came through Christmas unburdened with clothes that I won't let him wear. I must *itch about gendering to my family enough!

My kid is about the same size/age as yours. I have had the best luck buying from:

American Apparal (baby sizes don't really run small IME, but the toddler sizes do)
Zutano (love, love, love...still gendered but in a less obnoxious way)
Speesees (My FAVORITE! Totally gender neutral and they are having a great sale right now. Speesees.com)
Carters for super basics like soft pants and one-color onesies. Some of their other stuff is ok too (but you knew that already).
Lucky Kid (Their girls clothes are pretty awesome; I bought a ton for my boy. But they seem to be downsizing as the store by me is no longer there. Sad, because next to speesees the pieces I got there have been my favorites).

What I do NOT like:

Children's Place (Uber-gendered! Plus their PJ's don't fit...too skinny).
Gymboree (boy's stuff all has firetrucks, dinos, pirates, what have you)
Macy's (I was there today and found nothing. Not even anything in Carter's (all too small) And the Macy's by me is HUGE).
Hannah Andersson (Their boys clothes are really boring compared to their super-cute girls stuff).

Neutral:
The Gap and Old Navy (They have lots of stuff without characters, but its still very gendered in terms of color combo. Plus all their boys stuff seems to have stripes. Stripes, stripes, stripes. I used to like stripes).
Janie and Jack Cute boy's clothes but the price tag is enough to stun.

Anyway that's my two cents. Much of it has already been posted by others. I just wanted you to know that I feel your pain. Its my personal quest to find clothes for my boy that are cute but that don't impart inappropriate messages.

Oh, and for the person who said that the kid is too young to notice...that may be true, but I am certainly old enough to notice. Most of the people who look at my kid are old enough to notice. Hopefully some of these clothing designers will wise up that MANY of us notice...and take our business elsewhere.
post #32 of 92
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Oh, and for the person who said that the kid is too young to notice...that may be true, but I am certainly old enough to notice. Most of the people who look at my kid are old enough to notice. Hopefully some of these clothing designers will wise up that MANY of us notice...and take our business elsewhere.
I wish. This seems to be what most consumers want. I can't tell you how many comments I get when my daughter wears her red corduroy overalls (with a black and white striped girl's shirt underneath). Everything from "I guess DH dressed her this morning" with a wink to outright questions about why I dress her like a boy. Um, hello, I have photographs of me in red corduroy overalls! Last I checked, nothing about red, corduroy, or overalls is gender specific. I, however, seem to be the only person on the planet that thinks that, however.

I'm reading Pink Brain, Blue Brain about this topic and it's really interesting.
post #33 of 92
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I'm reading Pink Brain, Blue Brain about this topic and it's really interesting.
Oooh! I read that book. I thought her theory about prenatal testosterone was intriguing.
post #34 of 92
I love love LOVE dreamsacks stuff for baby (and me!): http://www.dreamsack.com/store/baby/
It is bamboo: sooo soft, sustainable, and comfy... Just solid colors too.
Their duds are pricey but basic white baby clothes are on sale on sierra trading post right now: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/Dreamsacks.html
I just stocked up!
post #35 of 92
i wanted to add that i am a girl that loves trucks and dirt! so maybe you are assigning more gender attachment to the images than there needs to be?

i get your frustration on feeling cornered into anything for sure
post #36 of 92
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i wanted to add that i am a girl that loves trucks and dirt! so maybe you are assigning more gender attachment to the images than there needs to be?

i get your frustration on feeling cornered into anything for sure
Oh, I'm not saying that girls can't love trucks and dirt. What I'm saying is that an outfit like that is clearly marketed to my son, and his g-ma bought it because he's a boy, and everyone oohs and aahs at how cute it is when my boy is in that outfit. But if I were to put a girl in an outfit that says "I love trucks and dirt," I would get comments like the previous poster who said that people ask why she dresses her daughter like a boy. It's assumed that my son likes trucks and girls his age don't. And with an outfit like that, you can either put that outfit on a boy and confirm gender stereotypes, or you can put it on a girl and people will act like you're a total weirdo. I'd rather just buy stuff that is not clearly aimed at one gender and sidestep the whole issue!

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I'm reading Pink Brain, Blue Brain about this topic and it's really interesting.
I'm going to have to check that book out!

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Originally Posted by Chamomile Girl View Post
Anyway that's my two cents. Much of it has already been posted by others. I just wanted you to know that I feel your pain. Its my personal quest to find clothes for my boy that are cute but that don't impart inappropriate messages.

Oh, and for the person who said that the kid is too young to notice...that may be true, but I am certainly old enough to notice. Most of the people who look at my kid are old enough to notice. Hopefully some of these clothing designers will wise up that MANY of us notice...and take our business elsewhere.
Thanks for all of your suggestions, you had some great ones! Also, I agree with you about the kids noticing. It's not necessarily just about whether my son will notice his stereotyped clothes. It's that everyone around him notices, and many people treat boys and girls differently from the start, and I want to challenge that. As he grows older, I don't want him to start realizing that he is expected to like certain things and not others because of his gender. I don't want to restrict him like that!
post #37 of 92
Could someone explain the problems with gender-specific clothes to me a bit more? Does that mean no dresses for girls, etc.?
post #38 of 92
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Could someone explain the problems with gender-specific clothes to me a bit more? Does that mean no dresses for girls, etc.?
On a most basic level, I think it's about nature versus nurture. How to not "pre-determine" your child's nature with how you nurture and what you expose them to... i.e. dinosaurs, trucks, sports for boys and fairies, princesses, dolls for girls.

It's about trying to give your kids the room and freedom to be themselves rather than molding or stuffing them into a predetermined role.

There is the whole other component to this and this is robbing children of their childhood innocence with clothing and toys that are themed beyond their maturity level. I'm thinking of the t-shirt slogans that are sometimes way beyond the age they are marketed to (IMO).

I personally think that toys matter more than clothes, but each has impact, I think in giving kids ideas and clues about perceived social mores.

I don't so much go for gender neutral but I avoid the gender specific, stereotyped things.
post #39 of 92
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Oh, I'm not saying that girls can't love trucks and dirt. What I'm saying is that an outfit like that is clearly marketed to my son, and his g-ma bought it because he's a boy, and everyone oohs and aahs at how cute it is when my boy is in that outfit. But if I were to put a girl in an outfit that says "I love trucks and dirt," I would get comments like the previous poster who said that people ask why she dresses her daughter like a boy. It's assumed that my son likes trucks and girls his age don't. And with an outfit like that, you can either put that outfit on a boy and confirm gender stereotypes, or you can put it on a girl and people will act like you're a total weirdo. I'd rather just buy stuff that is not clearly aimed at one gender and sidestep the whole issue!
Exactly.

I am like this with toys. My inlaws buy very stereotypical "boy" themed toys. Trucks, trucks, trucks, trucks, and more trucks. We have so many trucks. Too many trucks. I posted earlier in a different post about how they buy riding toy truck after riding toy truck, or large truck after large truck. We are overrun!

If I had a daughter would they still buy the trucks? Don't some girls want to play with trucks? And wouldn't some boys prefer something other than trucks?

Yes, my son likes trucks but he also really likes dolls. My inlaws have never bought a doll. The closest they've come to that is a stuffed animal.
post #40 of 92
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Also, Grow is closing out their line of cotton clothing and everything is $10 or less. It's super cute and sturdy, and there's lots of plain/stripes/non-gendered pics. If I had a little one, I'd be stocking up.

https://www.growgrowgrow.com/index.asp
So cute! I like that stuff.

Also, kids will see their baby photos (as well as their siblings and other children) when they ARE old enough to 'understand' ... ie, they may not be able to read, but they can clearly absorb the trends in boys and girls wearing certain colors or images to the exclusion of others, and draw many (sometimes unwanted or harmful) conclusions as to what that means to their own or others' identities.
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