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what parts of NCSS did you find helpful?

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I'm reading The No Cry Sleep Solution and wondering what other people's experiences are with the book. I have a 9 month old who was a GREAT sleeper for the first 6 months-- we co-sleep and BF on demand (I WOH and pump so BFing at night was important to me to keep up supply).

For the first 6 months he went to bed at 7PM and woke to nurse around midnight and then maybe 3-4AM (sometimes slept through this one) and then at around 6:30 AM (I'd dream nurse him before work) then he kept sleeping with Dad until 9:30 AM or so. He was so easy to fall back asleep-- just nurse and cuddle and he's out.

Starting at 6 months with all the new crawling and teething and whatnot he became a different kid at night. This started *before* we introduced solids for the first time (and I later stopped solids completely for a few weeks to see if there was any change and there wasn't). For the past 3 months he wakes every 1-1.5 hours and is hard to get back to sleep. Dad and I have to keep trading off all night long, and he practically needs to be slung over our bodies to stay asleep. I do think that he is a light sleeper and we're waking him up, but we only have a 1BD so room-sharing it is. We have a loud air purifier that drowns out a lot of noise, but he still hears/feels us moving around and wakes up. He still is sleeping starting at 7 and still likes to sleep in, but is now down to one long nap during the day instead of 2. His naps aren't 100% consistent, but there's not a lot I can do about that because he is with Dad during the day most days and some days grandma and weekends me and dad and he responds differently to all of us!

Right now our crib is sidecarred and he sleeps in the crib part about half of the night and half of the night either in between us or next to one of us and the crib.

In reading the NCSS I was wondering if I should put up the 4th side to the crib and try to get him more used to laying him down when sleepy and patting his back or rubbing his head. Right now with me he nurses until sleepy then takes the pacifier while either cuddled in my arms in bed or laying next to me. Putting him to sleep the first time is easy. With Dad he holds him while standing up and bouncing.

Should I stop the pacifier? Put him in the crib and pick him up when he cries, then re-try again putting him down and patting him? Swaddling lately has helped somewhat, or at least a tight blanket. I don't do it every night only when he's really upset.

We haven't put the 4th side up on the crib yet because I'm scared. I'm scared of losing all my cuddle time, to be honest. I LOVE co-sleeping but I think it's keeping him awake. I'm scared of having a harder time when he wakes up and I can't just roll over and nurse. There is actually no room in our bedroom for the crib to be anywhere else, so I'd just have to sit up and grab him.

Any thoughts? Thanks for reading this far.
post #2 of 6
Well, I absolutely love NCSS and just read both that one and the one for toddlers. What we've done is turned night time parenting over to dad, because she (20moDD) just can NOT sleep near me without wanting Nite Nite Milk. Now, without me around she sleeps just fine with Daddy...ALL NIGHT LONG. The first night she did fuss a little, but I was more upset than her. The second hardly at all, and the third nothing.

We've enacted morning and naptime snuggles so she's (ahem...I'm?) getting caught up on mama snuggle time with her. If I'm gone running errands during either of those times then we do it when I'm home, no exceptions. It's really going so well and it's awesome.

So I guess my post is to encourage you to find what works for you. My kiddo is definitely one that cannot sleep with me all night or she just wakes up constantly. The change was miraculous once we did this. The plan is for me to head back in with them in a couple weeks, once she's really used to not being on top of ME all night. On top of DADDY all night doesn't apparently affect her sleeping habits

Good luck mama!
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Originally Posted by Theoretica View Post
Well, I absolutely love NCSS and just read both that one and the one for toddlers. What we've done is turned night time parenting over to dad, because she (20moDD) just can NOT sleep near me without wanting Nite Nite Milk. Now, without me around she sleeps just fine with Daddy...ALL NIGHT LONG. The first night she did fuss a little, but I was more upset than her. The second hardly at all, and the third nothing.
Same result here, although this isn't really what we were going for. I can't even be in the room without DD (10 mos) wanting mama milk. Seriously, she wakes from a dead, limp limbed sleep to scream for booby when I walk through the bedroom door.

She cannot sleep near me without nursing, but will happily sleep in daddy's armpit all night. Which is not so great with Daddy.

So NCSS changed our sleep but not really in the desired way. It's a work in progress.
post #4 of 6
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He does sleep
so much better with daddy!
post #5 of 6
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Sorry for the quick iPhone response above (mothering.com needs to have a iPhone ap it's annoying!)

I may try Daddy sleeping next to him for a longer chunk of tonight. Usually he starts off in the sidecar, then at some point in the night snuggles in next to me either next to the crib or daddy, and at some point I ask Dad to trade off with me and I go to the outside edge of the bed (and sleep blissfully well). Maybe I'll see if he'll sleep next to Daddy from 12-5 tonight. He cries a tiny bit more when falling asleep (cries with me too in the middle of the night) but then sleeps longer. He barely nurses at that time (maybe latches on and sucks a few sucks once or twice).

Hmm... I think my problem now is I don't know which solution to try in NCSS and I don't want to try each out for 10 days to see improvement.
post #6 of 6
I know what you mean about not knowing which solutions to try. A lot of them sounded like they might help us, but it started seeming overwhelming, so I just picked a couple to start with. For us and our all-night nurser, the most effective things have been:

1. Very consistent, calming bedtime routine
2. Changing the place where lo sleeps (used to be all three of us in a king-size bed, now lo has a futon in her room and only ever has one parent with her at a time)
3. Pantley Pull-Off
4. Having someone else take over some of the nighttime parenting (having DH with her for the first part of the night has helped her learn to go back to sleep without nursing)
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