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post #21 of 30
Three seems really young to me...I guess I just have different expectations, but I don't even have my 4 year old get dressed by himself. He's capable of doing so, and does sometimes ask to do so, but I don't have it as a current "you have to be doing this on your own" expectation at the moment. KWIM?
If she does it most of the time, I would just help her in those instances she needs help, or asks for it anyway. You could always redirect and say 'can you get on such and such and then I can help you with..." There's obviously SOME reason why on certain days she wants your help vs. doing it herself, KWIM?
post #22 of 30
My 3.5 yr old insists on getting dressed by himself. He has been dressing himself since the 2's, mostly b/c I was sick of dressing him. He just mastered socks (yay!) but is still clueless about buttons, zippers, etc.
post #23 of 30
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Originally Posted by freestyler View Post
Who the heck always says no to helping, on principle?? That would be kinda twisted.

And what is wrong with a child expecting attention all the time? Uhhhhh.....I can think of a lot of things. One Big Thing is that Momma gets Pretty Darned Tired and holy cow, it really helps if people who ARE ABLE to help themselves DO help themselves. And obviously, there will be times when the dressing process needs a parent's help, but there will mostly be times when the process does not need a parent's help (at age 3 and 4 and such), and mom or dad is able to use energy for the myriad other things waiting in the wings. Or urgently needing attention.

My kids get plenty of attention, all the time, and well, I have found out that I am a normal human mom and get tired and cranky if there are nonstop, unnecessary, superfluous requests. I think that where my kids can be self-sufficient, I am thrilled, because then I am not spread so thin. Period. But then, I never had to tell my kids to dress themselves. They just always wanted to, and balked at my helping them the day they could put those little outfits on themselves. Fine by me----there are plenty of other places to help them. All day and night.
Right, so you're the first kind of mom I mentioned -- the kind who helps when she's able (with other stuff, since your kids don't ask for help dressing) but also explains to her kids when she's too tired/busy and is happy to have them do it on their own in those instances.

I'm sure in reality all of us are that kind of mom, but there are a few posts in this thread that make it sound like only lazy, attention-grabbing kids (3 year olds!) would ever ask for help getting dressed, and my point was that if a kid perceives that that's how his mom thinks of him for wanting/needing help, it could actually increase the whiny behavior surrounding the issue. I know my kid is a lot more likely to act whiny if he feels like I'm brushing him off instead of like I'm willing to help but tied up with another task (or too tired) at the moment.
post #24 of 30
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Originally Posted by freestyler View Post
Who the heck always says no to helping, on principle?? That would be kinda twisted.

And what is wrong with a child expecting attention all the time? Uhhhhh.....I can think of a lot of things. One Big Thing is that Momma gets Pretty Darned Tired and holy cow, it really helps if people who ARE ABLE to help themselves DO help themselves. And obviously, there will be times when the dressing process needs a parent's help, but there will mostly be times when the process does not need a parent's help (at age 3 and 4 and such), and mom or dad is able to use energy for the myriad other things waiting in the wings. Or urgently needing attention.

My kids get plenty of attention, all the time, and well, I have found out that I am a normal human mom and get tired and cranky if there are nonstop, unnecessary, superfluous requests. I think that where my kids can be self-sufficient, I am thrilled, because then I am not spread so thin. Period. But then, I never had to tell my kids to dress themselves. They just always wanted to, and balked at my helping them the day they could put those little outfits on themselves. Fine by me----there are plenty of other places to help them. All day and night.
Hoo, this whole thing seems a little abrasive. Didn't your kids have any mundane daily task that they *could* do but sometimes wanted help from you anyway? And what was your response to that? THAT is the issue here, not specifically clothes. It's just manifesting as clothes in this OPs life right now.

I am not a person who coddles kids or does everything for them, but when a 3 yo does something developmentally appropriate, like sometimes wanting to be "babied" a little, I'm hard pressed to classify it as "demanding attention" in a negative light any more than a infant who *can* sleep through the night but wants to be near its mother and cries is "demanding attention" in a bad way. Both are technically demands for attention, and both are completely appropriate and when they can feasibly be done, should be IMO.

If we're getting into parent burnout, that's about a lot more than helping a 3 yo get dressed every day...and should be addressed, for sure.

There are also several things the OP could probably do to start nudging her kiddo, if she hasn't started doing them. OP, when you do ask her to get dressed, is everything laid out and you just say, "OK, get dressed" or do you give her specific instructions? That would be a fairly good bridge for you to do while not in th eroom but still maintaining the contact she's needing. It may have to start with you in the room with her doing some busywork, while you say, "OK, take your PJs off......now put them in the hamper....great, put your shirt on......." etc. until she's dressed. Once she's gotten that down, then you could not be in the room for the same rundown. I'd always try her doing it on her own first and then going into the room with her. It's really appropriate for 3's to need tasks broken down into individual steps instead of big goals. You could also get playful if she's refusing and see how that goes - some kids respond well to it (like my daughter), some don't (like my son - he's very sensitive to anything even remotely patronizing and playful parenting often edges that way in his mind). "Oh NO! Your ARMS are stuck and you CAN'T get out of your PJs? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ALL DAY WITH STUCK ARMS????" and then a tickle, you "unstick" her arms, etc.

And a big old : to this:
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Originally Posted by limabean
I'm sure in reality all of us are that kind of mom, but there are a few posts in this thread that make it sound like only lazy, attention-grabbing kids (3 year olds!) would ever ask for help getting dressed, and my point was that if a kid perceives that that's how his mom thinks of him for wanting/needing help, it could actually increase the whiny behavior surrounding the issue. I know my kid is a lot more likely to act whiny if he feels like I'm brushing him off instead of like I'm willing to help but tied up with another task (or too tired) at the moment.
post #25 of 30
There is no magical age where a child will start dressing her/himself. Each child is different. When I realized ds wouldn't/couldn't dress himself or wanted/needed help, I just prepared for that and added an extra 5 or 10 minutes to the schedule.
post #26 of 30
My five year old has been chosing what to wear since she was 2.5 and geting dressed alone since 3, I found that she is more likely to get herself dressed if she has had some say in what she is wearing. Have you tried seting out a choice of outfits for her to chose from?? At 3 they like to have some control over what they do and allowing them to chose gives them a sence of being 'a big girl/boy'
post #27 of 30
my 3 yo has the opposite problem of INSISTING every single day that she does it herself. she has been doing this since she was just over 2. If I try to help her b/c we are in a hurry I get "I can do it!" and a meltdown for putting on even one sock or turing her shirt back around the right way! if you do happen to put her clothes on or help her in anyway she will strip down and then put them on herself! she is very strong willed to say the least
Every child is different!
post #28 of 30
As a WHOLE I wouldn't not to for my kids what they could them selfs.. I'll let go off say worring if things match allow the halloween costume while going to the groccery store at 3.5 years or ingnore wanting to wear her sparkely green shoes with her soccer uniform at 5 but I won't dress a child perfectly capable..
Saying that I don't mind the occasional extra mothering the extention of grace and playfullness that looks like help. You put on the right shoe I'll do the left.. The hummm lets see how do these jeans go on I know OVER YOUR HEAD!!!! helping choose clothing and dealing with snaps zippers ties ect that help is often still needed with even past the ages where the "could" just not enough confidence.

Deanna
post #29 of 30
with both of my boys 5 has been the age where they started dressing themselves with regularity. my current 5 yo still needs some help with shirts.
post #30 of 30
I'm a really go with the flow type person, so if how much my kids feel capable of doing change day to day, then I'm okay with that. From what I've seen, it all balances out in the end. Some days, my three year old daughter will change clothes a dozen times. Other days, she'll run around in her underwear. It took my son until five to want to start dressing himself. I was okay with helping him, whereas DH would absolutely refuse to even get his clothes out for him because he thought he should do it himself. From a little kid's perspective though, I can see getting dressed being quite a task. Our son has to open one drawer for his underwear and socks, another for his blue jeans, go into his closet and pick out a shirt and shoes. That's a lot of steps. It makes sense to me that he'd feel overwhelmed sometimes.
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