HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! First Chat of 2010!!

[lil_miss_understood]

Happy New Year!!!!!

[chlobo]

Happy New Year!!!!!!

[FireWithin]

Happy New Year Friends!

I am so excited about this year. I want to sit down and right down my hopes and goals, but want to give it the time it deserves.
I'm about to go on a First Day hike at Walden Pond. looking forward to it.

write later.

[changingseasons]

Oh my goodness.. not only a new month, but a whole new year!

I am spending the first day of the new year sick as a dog - I'm pretty sure it's a sinus infection.

Happy New Year!

[mtn.mama]

Looking forward to seeing what this new year has to offer us all...

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

Oh my goodness.. not only a new month, but a whole new year!

I am spending the first day of the new year sick as a dog - I'm pretty sure it's a sinus infection.

Happy New Year!

I sympathize.
The mail server broke yesterday and I got 0 minutes of sleep last night bc ds2 has decided he is the only one deserving of milk.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

I have never had an issue with oatstraw and gluten but there is a mama on this board who says she has. DD visibly reacts to gluten though and I've never ever seen an issue with it. I've been doing them for years and very regularly too. However if it concerns you, exercise caution!

I can't imagine putting a cup of herbs into a quart sized jar. I go between 1/4 and 1/2. That's as high as I'd go though. And yes, I consider red clover to be blossoms. They turn bitter, fast.

on the amounts, I need to dig up the other thread, I'm feeling befuddled because I thought I was doing it the normal way. But it's good to know about the red clover, no one's been thrilled since I added it, I guess letting it sit 4 hours isn't the best move.

Originally Posted by whoMe

How fast does zinc act? The chewies seem to be gone as of yesterday, but she only got a little zinc the day before, then maybe 10mg yesterday morning and a little more today. I seriously think I'm just seeing what I want to see half the time here. And I *know* that's what dh thinks is going on ALL the time.

When the kids are borderline, I see changes within a day or two of increasing the dosage, or skipping doses. It's pretty fast _if_ they're just borderline, but to get to that point took quite a long time supplementing (maybe a month when I added in one more capsule of zinc for the kids? beyond our long-term baseline amt I mean).

I'm sorry the troubleshooting is still ongoing.

...

The New Year, this year, is turning out to be a nice time to reflect. Most years it hasn't been particularly helpful/of interest, so this is nice. I still need a bit more time to really think, things have been busy (still in El Paso, very nice visit, fun and productive, worked on projects here, totally fell down on pills for the kids and even more for myself, but hey, who cares? ).

Happy New Year to everyone, Boudicca, forgot to quote you from the last thread, hope you start feeling better soon and figure out what's going on, sounds confusing and frustrating and sorta scary.

[Theloose]

Up way too late last night, talking with dh. Totally didn't even look at a clock and missed midnight - there was a big boom that was *probably* at midnight, but it didn't even register that it might have been a celebration until this morning

Dh and I were talking about perspectives and pseudo science and my mood history and stress levels. I *think* (hope) he's FINALLY on board. I think I've thought that before. But he was suggesting a spreadsheet to track symptoms and supplements and food trials so that he could better believe that this isn't all in my head. And he was realizing how much this is stressing me out and that there are different things he can do to help relieve my stress. Anyway, despite no sleep (after all that, dd couldn't sleep in the middle of the night) I'm actually feeling better than yesterday instead of worse, and things are looking up

I want to make myself some egg nog, cause it'd make me happy. Trying to decide if I should go to the store for raw cow's milk, or wait till next week and order some fresh raw goat milk to use that. (Coconut really doesn't cut it for me)

And finally, I don't know how many of you are on GFCFNN, but a link to this blog post about butyrate was just posted. Do we have a probiotics and prebiotics thread?

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

When the kids are borderline, I see changes within a day or two of increasing the dosage, or skipping doses. It's pretty fast _if_ they're just borderline, but to get to that point took quite a long time supplementing (maybe a month when I added in one more capsule of zinc for the kids? beyond our long-term baseline amt I mean).

I have finally decided to join in with a chat thread. I have never done so before even though I am in this allergy forum all the time.

What type of zinc is this that you can get your kids to take? I have realized that my 2 yr dd needs zinc for her health issues. I have noticed a difference wen I can get her to eat enough pumpkin seeds, but she is getting tired of eating them every day. And half the time she tries to get them down that they come out whole the other end.

[rileyscoutmom]

Happy New Year? I mean, Happy New Year!!

I started out today feeling . . . lost. dd2 (who is 1) woke up with the everyday rash on her belly - kind of worse than normal. But it has been on her legs before and not today. I just, I just don't even know what to do anymore. I posted a help my baby post a while back - but I just feel overwhelmed and like I should start a new one chronicling the entire history of her first year. I am so lost in a maze today.

Trying to make meatloaf without any cracker and using turkey. See how that works. I made rice with chiken bone broth which I used as a substitute for the crackers. Then just added some seasoning. Ri and I will have to put ketchup on our own later since dd2 has a tomato allergy. I must be honest and admit that I grated a brazil nut into the meatloaf - I figure it will not be tasted at all. But it probably won't benefit anyone as it will be so spread out through the whole loaf.

Okay so
If we are high on Cadnium, that effects zinc right?
I know she is low on calcium and magnesium and am trying to work that in
She has no selenium
High in arsenic - did I just read that meant something?
Low on iron - which I want to be careful about because I know that it can be replaced by Lead. Lead is not real high right now.
I think she is getting good a, c, and d right now
I ran out of probiotics and glutathione, which I want to replenish soon

Just, super lost. She didn't sleep well last night (go figure!). I need sleep - and for that I need her to sleep. And the belly rash worries me so.

I'm going to be honest: My fear is that I know that food and gi issues are associated with asd issues. I know that a lot of kids regress in this 12 to 24 month range. I really worry about that happening. As it is, she seems like a classic case of ADHD - she just doesn't stop. No sitting and playing with toys. Just running around and touching everything. She is very social and makes good eye contact. But I will admit it for the first time ever, behaviorally I find her to be a challenge. And it is taxing. And it stresses me out. And it makes me sad and worried. My 7 year old was and is the most easy going child (overly emotional in the sad category, but otherwise easy). Dd2, not so much.

So, here's to a good 2010. I hope something good happens for us all and that we can figure out how to optimize our family's health.

Karen

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1

I have finally decided to join in with a chat thread. I have never done so before even though I am in this allergy forum all the time.

What type of zinc is this that you can get your kids to take? I have realized that my 2 yr dd needs zinc for her health issues. I have noticed a difference wen I can get her to eat enough pumpkin seeds, but she is getting tired of eating them every day. And half the time she tries to get them down that they come out whole the other end.

Welcome to the thread, the more the merrier.

I give the kids powders, I open capsules. They recently started swallowing pills, but before that I mixed the powder with a tablespoon of juice (strong flavored, I used black cherry juice for a long time), and sometimes I put powder in between two layers of applesauce (anything squishy would work).

If your kiddo prefers real foods and has a broad flavor palate, you can get a LOT of zinc in via oysters. I've never eaten an oyster, and I'm a bit scared to try, so I can't give more advice than that.

If you're seeing benefit with pumpkin seeds, you can grind them and use them in grain-free recipes instead of almond meal, or you can add them to other baked goods that aren't grain-free.

[lil_miss_understood]

posted this elsewhere

DS2 has been wanting to nurse CONSTANTLY, day and night. He has started waking 4+ times a night to nurse- more than my 7 month old and he wants to nurse CONSTANTLY during the day, often taking temper tantrums if I have to nurse the 7 month old (both day and night).
I don't know what to do! I'm seriously losing my mind. I am SO EXHAUSTED.

then just realized i've been messing up on his allergens recently.


he is literally OBSESSED with milkies right now. it's practically the only word out of his mouth to me.

[rileyscoutmom]

Just jumping in to say my meatloaf was AWESOME. Yeah - and very proteiny what with the turkey and eggs. 7 Year old was all: "I'm so glad God made taste buds. This is yummy."

And welcome to the chat thread. What makes you think zinc? What are the issues you are seeing?

And just now when I typed this - 1 year old stacked 3 blocks. This is the first time I have ever seen her do anything like this. Yeah.

Karen

[chlobo]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

posted this elsewhere



then just realized i've been messing up on his allergens recently.


he is literally OBSESSED with milkies right now. it's practically the only word out of his mouth to me.

So DS has been really red this whole week. I started a new remedy & another supplement but other than that nothing out of the ordinary. We were scratching our heads wondering if the green tea I was drinking might be the cause. Then, suddenly, i remembered that I'm taking abx.

Anyhow, I'm hoping that's the cause b/c I'm almost done with them and I'd like to continue with the green tea.

so its not only you.

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by rileyscoutmom

And welcome to the chat thread. What makes you think zinc? What are the issues you are seeing?

My dd has loads of allergies. She especially gets constpated with meat. JaneS suggested zinc for her digestion and WhoMe has great info I learned about her liver detox pathways improving from zinc. And her rashes are less so I think it is helping. She even had some fermented cod liver oil which was an issue and she did well on it!!

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

Welcome to the thread, the more the merrier.

I give the kids powders, I open capsules. They recently started swallowing pills, but before that I mixed the powder with a tablespoon of juice (strong flavored, I used black cherry juice for a long time), and sometimes I put powder in between two layers of applesauce (anything squishy would work).

If your kiddo prefers real foods and has a broad flavor palate, you can get a LOT of zinc in via oysters. I've never eaten an oyster, and I'm a bit scared to try, so I can't give more advice than that.

If you're seeing benefit with pumpkin seeds, you can grind them and use them in grain-free recipes instead of almond meal, or you can add them to other baked goods that aren't grain-free.

Good idea! I love the almond meal recipes but don't use those anymore since that is an issue for us. I guess that since zinc is a mineral it is fine even after cooking.

[rileyscoutmom]

I used to have this website bookmarked that you could put in what foods you ate during a week and then it would tell you which nutrients you were lacking and what foods you could add. I lost it. I know it also told you the nutrients of indivdiual foods. Does anyone have a website that can do this? Argghhh.

Karen

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Do we have a probiotics and prebiotics thread?

probiotics 101


Pat

[Koalamom]

How is this? I just checked here and it says that liver is high in zinc and I am adding zinc for my dd digestion, but liver makes her constpated.
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname...=115#foodchart

[mamafish9]

Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1

I have finally decided to join in with a chat thread. I have never done so before even though I am in this allergy forum all the time.

What type of zinc is this that you can get your kids to take? I have realized that my 2 yr dd needs zinc for her health issues. I have noticed a difference wen I can get her to eat enough pumpkin seeds, but she is getting tired of eating them every day. And half the time she tries to get them down that they come out whole the other end.

Brainchild has a liquid zinc that is easy to mix in yogurt or DS was even OK with it straight in a squirter.

With pumpkin seeds, you can also put them in a blender and make flour, and then sub it as part/all of the flour in cookie/muffin recipes. It's totally yumm, and a lot more digestible ground up.

Originally Posted by rileyscoutmom

Okay so
If we are high on Cadnium, that effects zinc right?
I know she is low on calcium and magnesium and am trying to work that in
She has no selenium
High in arsenic - did I just read that meant something?
Low on iron - which I want to be careful about because I know that it can be replaced by Lead. Lead is not real high right now.
I think she is getting good a, c, and d right now
I ran out of probiotics and glutathione, which I want to replenish soon

Just, super lost. She didn't sleep well last night (go figure!). I need sleep - and for that I need her to sleep. And the belly rash worries me so.

I'm going to be honest: My fear is that I know that food and gi issues are associated with asd issues. I know that a lot of kids regress in this 12 to 24 month range. I really worry about that happening. As it is, she seems like a classic case of ADHD - she just doesn't stop. No sitting and playing with toys. Just running around and touching everything. She is very social and makes good eye contact. But I will admit it for the first time ever, behaviorally I find her to be a challenge. And it is taxing. And it stresses me out. And it makes me sad and worried. My 7 year old was and is the most easy going child (overly emotional in the sad category, but otherwise easy). Dd2, not so much.
Karen

Doesn't sound like ASD (my DS is on the spectrum). Sounds like you're dealing with mineral deficiencies and metals issues, which cause lots of behavioral and digestive problems (and which lots of ASD kids also have).

To me, it sounds like you have mag issues. Arsenic blocks magnesium utilization, so she'll need a lot more mag than most kids to balance that out (and B6 to help it get used - B6 counteracts the arsenic some). But "ADHD" type behaviors are classic low magnesium. I'd start there - if she is low mag, focusing on that will have a ton of awesome effects - sleep, behavior, calmness, focus...

Brainchild makes a liquid mineral supp which you might want to try - it has selenium, zinc, mag, and several other important trace minerals. Then I'd do extra zinc and a lot of extra mag in addition to that, to counteract the high cadmium and high arsenic you're dealing with. And assuming you're still nursing, take lots of B vites and extra B6 yourself - those pass through breastmilk really well, and they're hard to supp with LOs (they taste nasty). But supp the minerals direct - you won't be able to pass her the high levels she needs in your breastmilk.

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

If your kiddo prefers real foods and has a broad flavor palate, you can get a LOT of zinc in via oysters. I've never eaten an oyster, and I'm a bit scared to try, so I can't give more advice than that.

One caution on oysters - they're also sky high in copper. Copper and zinc are antagonists (they compete for absorption), so I'm not sure you'd get the benefit of all the zinc in the oysters. And many people low in zinc are high in copper, and really high copper foods can be troublesome.

I found it very difficult to source foods that would help correct a zinc deficiency. I think we did fairly well with foods for molybdenum, selenium, calcium - but zinc and mag, we needed lots of supps.