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My five and a half year old wont use the toilet

post #1 of 15
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Hi I have a five year old who wont use the toilet. When two and a half she announced she no longer wanted to use nappies took it off and was pritty much dry and clean day and night for about six months.
After a family holiday she started wetting on a regular basis. She stared school EYU last year when she was just four and a week old (due to her birthday and cut off dates) and during her time there this problem has got worse, o includ soiling herself aswell. I thought that when the other children started teasing her about it she would get the idea and stop i but its not happend. Now in year 1 at school and she is still doing it, with no response or even noticing when she has done it.

We have tried postitive and negative reinforcement, we have tried a number of reward charts, time outs and much much more. All work for a few weeks and then its like she gets bored with it and reverts back. I am at my witts end and have decided to put her back in pull ups, am i right in doing this??
I have so much washing and without using pull ups we are making more than i can wash in a week. When we ask her to go to the toilet she gets angry but does no seem to care if wet or dry.

I just don't know what I need to do now, she seems not to be bothered about being in pull ups, although we have said if her pull up is dryish in a day then she can wear knickers the next day (his worked today and is now wearing some but not sure how long this will last).


Please help me does any one no what is going on or had the same problem?? I don't know what els i can do she is back to school in two days after the holidays and i don't no if i should send her in pull ups or risk the wet uniform again??
post #2 of 15
Have you taken her to a doctor for a full work up?
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by JL83 View Post
Have you taken her to a doctor for a full work up?
I was about to say the same thing.



If nothing else... kids generally get to a "modesty" stage and don't want help in the toilet any more.
post #4 of 15
I was going to recommend taking her to the doctor as well.
post #5 of 15
I agree with the doctor.

5 1/2 is old enough to wash her own things a bit after soiling. Wash them off in the tub, wash herself, put things into the washer... Taking some responsibility for the cleaning might help you and might give her some incentive to be more mindful.

Tjej
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi thanks for the replys. We have been to he doctor and here is nothing wrong with her hey just told me to make her drink more (no a lot of help).
Any 'accidents' she has she must clean up and has been for about six months.
I truly think i have tried everything now.
Dont know what els is left to try
post #7 of 15
I'd go back to the doctor and tell them what you said here. They may be more willing to explore things now since your dd is getting older and older.

Tjej
post #8 of 15
I too would start with the doctor..

Deanna
post #9 of 15
When you last went to the doctor, did s/he do tests, blood work? Or just a normal exam and deem it normal and her fine? If no, blood work was involved, then definitely go back and ask for it.
post #10 of 15
If she has a medical okay I would go to a developmental child psychologist. At that age something is going on out of the ordinary.
post #11 of 15
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If she has a medical okay I would go to a developmental child psychologist. At that age something is going on out of the ordinary.
This.

And I know this is sensitive, but you say it started after a family holiday, were you visiting family?
post #12 of 15
What about a timer? Either a timer set somewhere or a watch with a timer. Set it to go off every hour. When the alarm goes off, she goes to the bathroom. That way at least you know that she's going. Once she has that down, space the alarm a little longer between trips.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by jeany View Post
Hi thanks for the replys. We have been to he doctor and here is nothing wrong with her hey just told me to make her drink more (no a lot of help).
Any 'accidents' she has she must clean up and has been for about six months.
I truly think i have tried everything now.
Dont know what els is left to try
Did you go to a Pediatric Urologist? Did they run any tests? Or did you just go to your Pediatrician?

The other suggestion would be a Developmental Pediatrician. I see others have mentioned that as well.
post #14 of 15
I have toileting issues with one of my dc, and spent some time talking to a child psychologist about it yesterday. She told me that toileting issues are almost always about control. It can be the one thing a child always has control over. The other cause is abuse (not trying to scare you, just fyi.) I know it's upseting and scary to have to talk to a professional, but I think you'll get much more help from a counselor or child psychologist than you will here. Maybe you can find one on the Finding Your Tribe board? Good luck. I'm sorry your daughter and you are going through this.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thank you everyone for your replys, when we went to the doctors they did a unine test and all was fine but no blood tests. I have been to the health visitor but was of no help.

The control thing was something i had read on line and we tried this program where she was in full control of it all and was given no response if we or soiled and had to take her self to the toilet but this only worked in till we saw the health visitor. The helth visitor is a lady who was very rude did not allow me a word in edge ways and made both me and my daughter feel crap. She judged me as i am young (25).

The family holiday was a camping trip with my sister and daughter.

I will go back to the doctors and ask to see a child phychologist (hope i can get it on NHS)
Thank you all its good to know there is support out there and others go through the same
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