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almost 8 year old dd keeps lying to me, help!

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I'm getting really frustrated with my oldest dd. She's telling lies. Generally of the "saying she's done something she doesn't want to do" variety and "trying to get out of trouble" variety.

She started a new school last term, (same peer group, just moving up to juniors,) and has been a bit shy of approaching her teachers. They are all very gentle and lovely and she gets bucketloads of positive reinforcement for the vast majority of things she does right.

We had to have a lot of discussion about her avoiding talking to her teachers. She'll answer questions in class very happily, but speaking one-to-one makes her nervous. imho being a bit shy I can be very sympathetic to, but it's not acceptable to not speak to them when she needs to.

We had a few incidents last term when it became clear that she wasn't reliable in carrying messages between home and school, getting upset and lying about it.
This morning was the first day back and we couldn't find her shorts to go in her pe kit. I'd thought they were in a pile of ironing I had waiting for yesterday evening, turns out they were not.
We talked, (okay in her head I probably had a long nag) about how she needed to go to the school office and check lost property, she could take a friend if she was feeling shy. Based on past experience I told her that I would know if she hadn't checked, and if not we'd stop her pocket money to replace them. (I'd know, I'd have to go in to buy a replacement and could ask the office staff, some of whom I know very well.)
She swore BLIND that they'd been missing for ages, hadn't worn them all term, but okay she'd go and ask.
They showed up shortly before we left. In the hall chest, fallen out of her bag. (At the start of the holiday, I'd cleared up beforehand, and am certain they came home at the end of term.)

So little madam has been caught out, and knows I'm not happy.

Thank you so much for reading pe kit drama! And please help me respond in a way that helps solve the problem!
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My dd is like this, still. She's 10. I have never found a solution that changes her behavior, exactly.

So long ago I began following up. For instance -- "Did you put your clothes away?" dd - "Yes." me - "Did you hang your dresses in your closet?" dd - "Yes." me - "So, if I came to check, I would not find clothes on your floor, and I would not find dresses laying at the bottom of your closet." dd - "I did what you said." me - "OK, good. I'm going to come and check." dd - "Oh, wait -- I think I might have forgotten to take care of some of them."

We have similar conversations about school-related issues and issues with her father/homework/flute practice/whatever.

She's gone as far as to say to me (when I'm standing in her doorway, her clothes are piled on the floor immediately behind her and right in my line of sight from where I'm standing) "You always think I'm lying! I DID put my clothes away!" and me, angry, "Do you really forget that I have eyes, and I can see perfectly well that you didn't put your clothes away, but just set them in the middle of your bedroom floor?" her - "Oh, I forgot some," and me - "Yes. You forgot the entire pile."

Anyway -- I don't have any excellent solutions for you.

I would suggest you respect her shyness, and perhaps make it a point to see if you can communicate with her teacher via email to help the school situation.
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Hi, thanks for the reply and it's nice to know I'm not the only one.

If it were strange adults she were shy of, I would be very respectful of her shyness. It's the fact that these are her teachers, some of whom she will be with for the next four years and are very significant figures. They are also an exceptionally lovely bunch at that. I would really rest so much easier if I felt that if she had a problem at school, (anything from bullying to a lost packed lunch,) she'd deal with it. I've explained that, but...
She'll ask for help from a shop assistant, no problem!
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