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Do you allow baby signing time?

post #1 of 26
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We have one baby signing time DVD and I was planning to get some more, but these days when we go into the parlor to play with his toys, the first thing DS does is look for the remote and start signing "baby" which means he wants to watch it. It makes me nervous that he is so gung ho about essentially a TV show, and that while watching it he is pretty transfixed. (We don't allow TV otherwise)

I know a lot of moms here use Baby Signing Time DVDs - do you? Why or why not? I'm wondering if we should reevaluate.
post #2 of 26
We did sign language with my son, but didn't use any videos. We just signed common words that he was familiar with, milk, eat, change, more, etc. He started signing at 6 mo, and now is 18 and knows about 15 or so signs, and seems to pick them up much quicker. I'd limit any TV, especially at the point where he is asking to watch it.

I think they learn it better when they see those around them using it as a daily lifestyle.
post #3 of 26
I LOVE baby signing times. Jack will dance to the music when I turn it on but to day when I put it on and the music started he started to sign baby ( rocking his arms) I almost cried. He has been doing more for a month or so.

If anyone would come to the door and see me dancing along with Jack they would totally crack up.

I love the music We have vol 1 but just got vol 3 in the mail today. I put it on when Im folding clothes usually. ( if not I get "help" unfolding everything)
post #4 of 26
nope. We did baby sign language, but short of some college football on a rare occasion, we don't watch TV or videos.
post #5 of 26
Since she's usually happier about just playing after watching a signing time dvd, I'm all about them.
post #6 of 26
We use them, started around 15 months. We started learning to sign from books and were using signs with him from birth, but his vocabulary REALLY picked up with the videos. DS loves still loves them, almost a year after we started.

Yes they can be a gateway to more and more TV. DS loves TV. We worked really hard to limit it to less than 1 hour per day (soft limit for most days, hard limit was 2 hrs, perhaps weekly for movie nights) before he turned 2.

Now that DS is 27 months, we're considering a shift into more of selecting content and format (DVDs that limit commercials) rather than strictly limiting time.

We still plan TV-free family activities (especially dinner/meals), and incorporate active play into our days, to try and keep a balance.
post #7 of 26
I think you need to decide what is your view of babies watching tv. There is a lot of information out there regarding the subject.

You don't need a dvd to teach your baby signs. I use this site a lot, aslpro, because it is really easy to navigate and the video clips really help with my signing. I have never used the baby signing dvds, so I can't say how well they work. But I can think of at least 30 signs my DD regularly uses and she understands much more and she is 14 mo.
post #8 of 26
Lina's so into music that the songs on Signing Time have made a big difference. I started signing with her at birth and she didn't start using signs until after seeing signing time. And her success with the signs she's decided to use from that has made her more open to using the additional signs I do. Music is a huge motivator for her and I've made her her own Pandora channel

My standard for television is that it can't hypnotize. So a dvd where she periodically walks away or turns around to check on what I'm doing is fine. The flashing bright commercial where I physically turned her away from the tv and her head twisted around to keep staring at the tv was not. Hulu.
post #9 of 26
DS adored the videos. I like that, with the DVD's, I can skip to just the songs and he loves to watch those. Even if he watches all the songs, he's done in 10 minutes.
post #10 of 26
We love them, and swear by them. My daughter learned hundreds of signs and was able to communicate all of her needs with to us with no problems as a young age. She had no tantrums and her vocabulary is amazing.
post #11 of 26
My DS (17 mo) has been watching them on & off since he was 6 months old. he loves them and I think they are great...however, he has only signed eat & milk - I swear he is part CAT. He can do the signs, but refuses too. I guess if it is any consolation for me...he knows his ABC.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
Lina's so into music that the songs on Signing Time have made a big difference. I started signing with her at birth and she didn't start using signs until after seeing signing time. And her success with the signs she's decided to use from that has made her more open to using the additional signs I do. Music is a huge motivator for her and I've made her her own Pandora channel

My standard for television is that it can't hypnotize. So a dvd where she periodically walks away or turns around to check on what I'm doing is fine. The flashing bright commercial where I physically turned her away from the tv and her head twisted around to keep staring at the tv was not. Hulu.
Yes this exactly!

Baby Signing Time is the only thing that DS requests to watch (well a few months ago he was on a Chitt Chitty Bang Bang kick for a few weeks) He loves the songs and sings and signs them during the day. He was really only signing milk and more before he started watching the videos. My signing vocabulary has really increased as well, I have dyslexia and am a very visual learner and have an easier time retaining info when there is a song with it. I like the video's I like Rachel she seems friendly and inviting and I love the songs.

DS does watch some other TV occasionally but he mostly loves to play and will glance up at the screen every now and then if I put on TVO which has really nice programs for preschool age and no commercials I actually like watching the show's and watch them with DS.
post #13 of 26
I'm going to agree with Sapphire Chan and Butterfly Mommy... In general, TV should be a big no-no, but I think there are exceptions that CAN be made, with MOST children, when carefully monitored (ie, watching for the 'hypnosis')

We didn't use Signing Time, but another signing video, "My Baby Can Talk." We LOVED them. We did signing in context around the house, and we even took a class. But it was the videos that clinched it for her. She learned so much from them.

I do prefer MBCT over BST in part because it is slower and less glitzy, less 'addictive' in its presentation. It's very simple... classical music background, toys and animals and children demonstrating what the meaning of the word is, and an adult and a child demonstrating the sign.

There were times when DD would watch it over, and over, and over again. For days on end. And other times when she would ask to watch it, turn it on, watch 2 minutes, then run off to play with something else. And times where she showed no interest in it for weeks on end. It's like any kind of learning with toddlers -- they will 'cycle' through things as they go through developmental and learning phases, obsessing over something for a period of time, then just... moving on.

Pretty much the same thing happened when we started letting her watch movies, around age 2. (We don't have cable, so no 'regular' TV). She would completely obsess over a particular movie for about a week. Demand to watch it all the time. Memorized all the lines. Play-acted that she was different characters. We'd be starting to think, "gee, maybe we've been too lenient with this and this isn't good for her, we should cut back." Then she'd stop. Move on to something else.

So... so far, we're content that she is able to self-regulate appropriately with TV movies. She ADORES them when they're on, but doesn't freak out when they're not. She did move through a phase where she DID freak out... but passed through that. At least right now, it all seems good. I think part of it is that she does have enough other creative and interesting activities -- I don't mean fancy toys. But opportunities for imaginative play, with playsilks and art and blocks and lego... so she's not just constantly being drawn to TV out of boredom. That may be a factor for some kids.

And some kids just aren't able to self-regulate TV, period. My son is one of those. We tried letting him... tried waiting it out, until he moved through the obsessive phase... it never happened. His personality (ADHD and SPD and lots of fun stuff) does not have the executive function control or self-motivation to mediate his activities.

So, it can totally depend on the kid. All you can do is -- if you're comfortable with it, try it, and see what happens. Odds are they'll be fine... but if not, then you will have the monster to deal with when you REMOVE the TV privileges. You know your kids best, you may have an idea already whether you think your child will be able to handle it or not.

You also didn't mention how old your LO is... if they're under 2, you definitely need to be more careful. I personally still think that signing videos are acceptable exceptions to the nothing-under-2 rule, but I know not everyone will agree with that. But under 2, most don't yet have the self-control etc to self-regulate TV watching and are more prone to the addictive influences. I wouldn't do a free-range approach with videos under age 2, but I don't see a harm in parent-regulated watching (especially if the parent is watching WITH the child as well).

Not everyone will agree with that and I totally understand where they're coming from. I wrestled with it myself. This is just where I ended up landing.
post #14 of 26
I reluctantly popped Baby Signing Time (here forth BST) in the DVD player once when my daughter was about 8 months old and I was sick and half-comatose. She LOVED it, and over the next 10 months (she's 18 months old now) she has become obsessed. This may sound like a bad thing, but in our family we're all about BST.

On the very rare occasion that I've put other stuff on the t.v. for her, like SpongeBob pr Dora, she has zero interest. She just does her adorable, vigorous, imaginary baby-rocking thing and says: "Signs!" She watches it while she wakes up in the morning and when we're getting ready for bedtime & story time at night, but for the rest of the day we leave it off.

We have taught her a bunch of other signs we learned using an online ASL dictionary, and we have found that signing just makes her so content, happy, expressive, and confident. We plan to continue learning ASL ourselves and teaching it to her as she gets older.
post #15 of 26
We used to watch Signing Time until DD started becoming a little bit to obsessed for my comfort. I checked out several other sign language videos from the library. YBCT, like tankgirl73 mentioned, is good as is Baby See and Sign. I finally settled on the Sign Language Made Easy series. It is designed to teach ASL vocabulary and grammar to adults and is just people signing while they talk. DD still watches and learns from it, but she isn't mezmorized and will also go off an play. I think TV is such a novelty at this age that they don't need a lot of special effects to keep their interest.
post #16 of 26
DH and I go back and forth on this. We do not have cable or regular tv, just a dvd player. I watched Signing Times with my now 21 month old DD when she was about 8 months old on up but she wasn't very interested. My sister got her an Elmo DVD when she was about 15 months old and she became obsessed with it and with Elmo, much to our chagrin...hoping she wasn't going to be "marketed" to. Now that it is the holiday season we have let her watch some oldies that we watched as children (Rudolph, Santa Clause is Coming to Town). She loves the latter and will ask for it. But we do limit it. It does help if one of us needs to work on dinner or something. But most of our day is spent playing, drawing, reading, nursing. There have been times when she's asked to watch something and will start to cry if I say "let's do (fill in the blank) instead". But the crying doesn't last long and she will go on to something else. So, I am at times conflicted because for so long she didn't watch anything. I have friends who have cable and basically have the TV on all day. Their children are exposed to inappropriate commercials and all that junk...so I guess by comparison, for myself, I feel okay about this.

I think it depends child to child, parent to parent. No one should fault you for your choices unless that child is literally not doing anything else...creative play is so important. So TV as babysitter I will rail against. But what you are doing is totally fine. You are obviously a caring, concerned and loving parent!
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by tankgirl73 View Post
And some kids just aren't able to self-regulate TV, period. My son is one of those. We tried letting him... tried waiting it out, until he moved through the obsessive phase... it never happened. His personality (ADHD and SPD and lots of fun stuff) does not have the executive function control or self-motivation to mediate his activities.
Oh I know how that is. My parents went tv-free from when I was 9 months to 5 years (I suspect my mom wanted TV while nursing my little brother and dealing with a 5 year old. Plus, he was dragged along to my activities so didn't have as much of a chance to want the TV on all the time).

I still can't operate in a home with TV. It's not too bad with dvr and I'm fine with video, i.e. Hulu and DVDs. Things really got better for me when I had Lina, became easier to make real life a higher priority.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by Down2Earth View Post
I think you need to decide what is your view of babies watching tv. There is a lot of information out there regarding the subject.

You don't need a dvd to teach your baby signs. I use this site a lot, aslpro, because it is really easy to navigate and the video clips really help with my signing. I have never used the baby signing dvds, so I can't say how well they work. But I can think of at least 30 signs my DD regularly uses and she understands much more and she is 14 mo.

Yup.

My DD knows about 75 words (not counting her verbal vocabulary) and she is 20 months. I know the signs she knows because we learned them together. We love snuggling and watching the people on ASLPRO.com do the signs.
It is the only time she gets to touch the lap top, she plays the video and repeats the signs for as long as she wants to.

We don't do much TV because of how she acts when she doesn't get it. Fits and obsessions with things of that nature (TV and sugar) are her first sign that she needs less or none of something.
post #19 of 26
We started watching baby signing time when she was 2yo. I liked it better at that age then the regular signing time. It was the first tv she ever watched.
post #20 of 26
i always just did signing time during breakfast. giving it a specific time allowed for me to generally not be bothered with requests for it.
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