Help my husband vaccinated my child and did not tell me - Page 2

[JessicaS]

Originally Posted by 2lilsweetfoxes

It struck me that suppose you decided the next week you wanted your baby vaccinated--and you and the doctor did not know she had just received the vaccinations--so now she's getting two doses way too close together! Or, she ended up getting a double dose of a set of shots. Not good.

That would be my concern as well.

You should have a serious discussion about trust and deceit and how lying could have had consequences.

I wouldn't move out and divorce over it but I wouldn't appreciate being lied to at all.

[lovebug]

Originally Posted by Emmeline II

He has equal rights to her; there is nothing you can do legally.

If he hasn't really researched vaccination, now is the time to start.

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Here are some questions to answer for yourself in deciding about vax.

1. Name of the disease
2. Description of the disease
3. Length of time from initial infection to end of all symptoms
4. Infectious period
5. Normal symptoms of the disease
6. Known serious consequences of the disease
7. Proportion of persons infected developing serious consequences
8. Transmission route of the disease
9. Prevalence of the disease
10. Treatments of the disease and efficacy of those treatments
11. Relevant research about the disease
12. Name of the vaccine
13. Company that makes the vaccine
14. Contents of the vaccine
14A. The significance of whether or not the vaccine is live
15. History of development of the vaccine
16. Known side-effects of the vaccine and rate of incidence of those side-effects
17. Possible side-effects not yet acknowledged by the vaccine maker
18. Relevant research into the vaccine
19. How effective is the vaccine at preventing the disease?
20.What is the vaccine meant to do? (Many vaccines are not meant to prevent infection or transmission).
21.Number of cases reported each year.
22.Number of deaths reported each year from the vaccine and natural disease.

Here are some sources to help you out:

Vaccines: The Risks, The Benefits, The Choices 1/18DVD, By Sherri J. TENPENNY



http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html (download the current issue)
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...k-chapters.htm
http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...40451107552&q=
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...87981735&hl=en
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...ses&deaths.pdf

Health Sentinel Graphs

WHO GRAPH

Vaccine Injury Table

Beyond Conformity Resources Page
Do you have a quick-fire summary?

Inside Vaccines

i had to quote this. thanks for this!

Originally Posted by abimommy

That would be my concern as well.

You should have a serious discussion about trust and deceit and how lying could have had consequences.

I wouldn't move out and divorce over it but I wouldn't appreciate being lied to at all.

i agree i would be really upset over the lies though! it would make me think!

[ace61502]

This is one of my biggest concerns right now. I'm sorry you are living it.

My husband and I are separated right now, almost 2 years. I am anti-vax, my husband is blinded by the propaganda. I have no choice but to simply delay and selective vax because my state offers no exemptions. I have physical custody and we have joint legal custody, so he's not "supposed" to do anything like this without my knowledge and consent, but I worry that since the "powers that be" side with him that my argument wouldn't stand up in court if it ever went there. He would be in the right regardless because it's in line with the law.

I've compared what recommended vs what's required and that at least shaves a ton off, at least, but I've not taken my son to get any vaxes done because I can't be sure what he may have gotten done behind my back. I'm terrified of overdosing him, especially since my husband demanded a copy of his vax record not long after we separated. My husband is the type to give Motrin to prevent a fever from happening in the first place, simply because he had one the day before that was gone by the time he even got our son. I don't treat fevers period. (Neither of my boys have ever had a fever high enough to concern me, and I'm convinced that febrile seizures are not caused by fever itself, but that they are both symptoms of something else) Considering that history, there's no way he'll consider overdosing on vaccines an issue.

I don't know what to do. Does anyone know if I can call the insurance company and inquire about my son's history even though I'm not on the insurance?

[karika]

to me, the ingredients in the vaccines are known toxins. So to me getting a child vaccinated is equivalent to giving them something which could harm them. I could not trust someone that did that behind my back. However, if he is blinded by the propaganda, then he may see you in the same light, someone who is neglecting the child in a way that may lead to their illness. I could not trust him with the child anymore and would have to separate until he did the research and came to the same conclusions I did. Did the two of you do your research together? In our house, I was allowed to do the research and make the decision alone. dd's father trusted I was making the right one. I printed off some articles for him to read, he may have glanced at them... but when you tell them the ingredients in the vaccines and how they are made, that should make anyone disagree with their use right there, i would think... in another thread someone posted this link

http://web.mac.com/rblaylock/Russell...Disorders.html


it is about the most scientifically complete explanation of why vaccines are dangerous that I have seen. I like the pp that gave all the info... I think the way you approach it is going to matter a lot and i wish i could help you with that, but i am a 'my way or the highway' kind of woman, pretty brash.... the research needs to be done, where he sees info that is not just propaganda, that is actual science, like the neuron dying when the mercury hits it on youtube, the article above, the multitude of documentation on how the cdc has hidden and deleted and shifted info to make things look a certain way, the articles that outlay the revolving door between pharma/ lobbyists/ fda/ WHO/govt positions... how most vocal proponents of vaccination like Offit and Oz hold patents and benefit when people use the vaccines, the recent inquiries in Europe into the ties between WHO and pharma and the conflicts of interest there. It is like a movie what has been happening, and many refuse to open their eyes... there has been a concerted effort to poison mass populations for some time now with the vaccines and fluoride and tv and processed food and GMOs..... in my divorce decree I made sure it said I was the decision maker for all educational, medical, religious things to do with said child... some good medical people that have an online presence are dr mercola, dr tenpenny, dr horowitz.... i hope you sort this out... and dont worry too much about the exposure of one round of shots... dd1 had some too before I knew better (a dr strongarmed us into them, which is why I avoid allopathic drs now and choose ND). there are ways to pull the toxins out of their bodies I have heard, though I havent tried it yet, we just eat mostly organic and avoid dairy and all gmos....

[ema-adama]

OP - I have been thinking of you. If you have a moment to update us or me through PM I would appreciate it.

[rayo de sol]

Originally Posted by ace61502

I have no choice but to simply delay and selective vax because my state offers no exemptions.

Just curious what state you're in? I thought all states offered some sort of exemption, either religious or philosophical?

[Juvysen]

[StephandOwen]

Originally Posted by 2lilsweetfoxes

It struck me that suppose you decided the next week you wanted your baby vaccinated--and you and the doctor did not know she had just received the vaccinations--so now she's getting two doses way too close together! Or, she ended up getting a double dose of a set of shots. Not good.

IF this were the case, wouldn't/shouldn't she be talking to her dh BEFORE she takes the kid to the dr to get vaccinated? I would assume that if that conversation came up the DH would then admit he had her vaccinated, thus avoiding the double vaccination.

The only way the double vaccination could occur is if the dh didn't fess up or if the OP didn't talk to the dh before having the kid vaccinated, which is exactly what everyone is up in arms about.

To the OP- have you sat down and really talked to your dh about why he did this? Maybe he has a perfectly valid reason (in his mind, not necessarily in yours). Maybe he really truly is concerned about her getting ill. As her parent, he has just as much say in this as you do.

And I would strongly urge you to consider other options other than divorce, if this is the only issue you have with him. My concern is that if you get divorced he most likely will get joint custody (no court is going to deny custody because you're pissed he got the kid vaccinated). With joint custody he can continue to get the kid vaccinated, but he doesn't really have to tell you (well.... kinda....). IF this situation were to occur and he were to continue vaccinating the kid (and not telling you or telling you after the fact) and you took him back to court to try to get full custody... what do you really think a judge is going to say? They are more likely to side with the parent "trying to protect the kid by getting vaccines" than the "crazy woman who is anti-vaccine".

[writteninkursive]

Are you divorced? In our custody agreement my ex-dh and I have, I specifically stipulated that he was not to have vaccines administered to the children. If he does, he is in contempt of court (since he signed the agreement) and loses any custody of the kids. If you are divorced, DO THAT. Then you can be sure it won't happen again, and if it does, you can legally keep him out of control of the child's well-being.

[nichole]

It sucks, but I think if he is otherwise a good husband and dad, you should work things out with him. Divorce isn't going to solve this issue. He will always be a father to your dd, and you will always be parenting this child together. There is a bigger issue here if he decided the best way to handle it, is to go behind your back. There is always a compromise, even if the compromise is research for X amount of time and decide again. Talk to him...talk talk talk...work it out. I do think he was in the wrong, but once you have had time to calm down, I disagree with some of the suggestions of moving out or divorce. How is that going to help? Just my 2 cents, without knowing all the details. Take it with a grain of salt.